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Let the others sit, cap off over night. then store for about 5 days, shaking each day.
If they have any alcohol it needs to evaporate and most mixes need time to Bind chemically for a proper taste.

*hope you know - I was laughing at GPC2012 not you.

If you Mix down
work in 1/4 measurements to find your comfort and satisfaction zone.
Let any reduced mix sit for a day or two and shake often.
You might consider warming the mixed down juice by heating some dry rice in a bowl in the microwave and then nestling the bottle down into it. do not heat it above 230 degrees f or you take the chanceof melting the plastic bottle.
 

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Well now that Kurt has 28 different versions of what to do. Our job is done. Congrats people we have fully confused another vaper. :lol::lol::

Just kidding Kurt. Anytime you have questions this is the place to go. You may not get one definitive answer but a ton of suggestions that you can generally use to help you out.
 

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@Kurt0402 Reading all of this, it might be easier just to move to the city :laugh: :facepalm:
NOPE Just move close to the city. Then you have the convenience of the city without the crowded idiots that all congregate there. Not saying all people that live in cities are idiots. Just most of them
 

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If they have any alcohol it needs to evaporate and most mixes need time to Bind chemically for a proper taste.

I've seen this mentioned over and over in the DIY section but I don't believe it at all.

Lets just say that I have plenty experience crafting high grade alcohol and airing at very high proofs (alcohol percentages) simply helps take the edge off but there is no noticeable level of evaporation. You can leave a bottle of everclear 190 proof open outside for weeks and will not notice evaporation.

This leads me to believe that airing e-juice does nothing for the alcohol content. We are talking about alcohol contents in e-juice at well less than 5% and if alcohol evaporation is not noticeable at 95% I suspect it is not noticeable at 5%.

Airing may or may not help the flavors blend better or take the bite out of nicotine, but I don't suspect it does anything to the alcohol content in flavorings.
 

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Here we go - another great ECF exclusive competition, this time courtesy of top manufacturer Smoktech...

Smoktech have released the X Cube II, one of the most advanced PVs ever created, and are giving 250 "Cloud Machine" kits away. The cloud machine kit includes the X Cube II and the TFV4 Vapor Creator.

Taking part is simple and anyone can take part, just visit this page to enter. The competition lasts for one week, so act now :)

Good luck to all!

Competition prize details:

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Cloud Machine Kit:

1x TFV4 Tank (0.2Ω TF-T3 Coil Pre-installed)
1x X CUBE II
1x Silicone Ring
1x USB Cable
1x Refill Warning Card
1x User Manual

X CUBE II provides 160W maximum output, authentic temperature control, Bluetooth 4.0 and many other functions

SMOK TFV4 features quadruple , triple and RBA coil head, top refilling design, improved airflow system and innovative drip tip to give fans an unexpected vaping experience. What's more, as much as 10 different types of cores have been released for TFV4, including ni200 core and titanium core for temp control


Oh, and we'll be giving away a number of kits to ECF members in this thread. Stay tuned for details....
Woot Woot! Love the X Cube!
 
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Peppery taste is likely the result of bad nicotine. From what I've gathered from the DIY section on this forum when nicotine is not stored properly and goes bad it gives a peppery taste.

Try some of your mix with out nicotine and see if it still tastes peppery. If it does then it is another ingredient. If it does not, then you have bad nicotine.

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Not entirely sure what "shisha" means, but the description at BCV said something like "sweet strawberries dipped in sugar" and since I like sweet not tart strawberry flavor, I tried it, and it's exactly what I was looking for -- sweet strawberry, very authentic flavor. However it's very costly compared to other flavors, its gunk factor is off the charts since it's organic, and I recently got a sample 10ml bottle of Inawera's other strawberry "truskawa", so I'm going to try it and see if it can suit me.

Andria

The reason I had asked is I ordered some, it comes from China and takes a while to get here but the prices are pretty good even with the $10 shipping.


Strawberry SHISHA E-Liquid Wholesale
 

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I've seen this mentioned over and over in the DIY section but I don't believe it at all.

Lets just say that I have plenty experience crafting high grade alcohol and airing at very high proofs (alcohol percentages) simply helps take the edge off but there is no noticeable level of evaporation. You can leave a bottle of everclear 190 proof open outside for weeks and will not notice evaporation.

This leads me to believe that airing e-juice does nothing for the alcohol content. We are talking about alcohol contents in e-juice at well less than 5% and if alcohol evaporation is not noticeable at 95% I suspect it is not noticeable at 5%.

Airing may or may not help the flavors blend better or take the bite out of nicotine, but I don't suspect it does anything to the alcohol content in flavorings.
A challenge for you. Buy any bottle of e juice you want and put it in a drawer for 3 to 4 weeks then order another bottle of the exact same juice. Set side by side take a pic and send it to the thread Don't tell us which is which. Most of us old timers will be able to tell you. Then vape some of each and give us your honest feedback Flavor, depth, complexity, subtle nuances on inhale and exhale. there will be a significant difference. Even if you bought a "presteeped" juice there will be differences. There are a lot of things that contribute to it. Evaporation of the alcohol, evaporation of the water contained in the suspension liquid (VG,PG) Breakdown of the nicotine, and finally the melding of the chemicals used to make the flavorings. These are the main things. With all kinds of variables involved. temp light. purity, human error.

Conclusion IMHO the evaporation and steeping of the juice does make a difference.
 

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Peppery taste is likely the result of bad nicotine. From what I've gathered from the DIY section on this forum when nicotine is not stored properly and goes bad it gives a peppery taste.

Try some of your mix with out nicotine and see if it still tastes peppery. If it does then it is another ingredient. If it does not, then you have bad nicotine.

Search Results for Query: peppery | E-Cigarette Forum

Misunderstood.

Peppery Nic is not as highly processed(not quite as pure) with a bit of tobbaco taste on its own and a bit of a peppery bite. Some prefer this.
Average nic is clean tasting with a bit milder TH
Nude Nic is the Purist, but some say they need to use a higher mg to get the same TH.
 

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Conclusion IMHO the evaporation and steeping of the juice does make a difference.

I'm not saying steeping or even "airing" does not make a difference.

I am saying that it will not cause the alcohol to "evaporate" as many claim.

A challenge to you. Get a bottle of vodka and fill a shot glass to the brim. Leave it unattended until you notice any evaporation. After 3 months of waiting, dump down the sink.
 
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I'm not saying steeping or even "airing" does not make a difference.

I am saying that it will not cause the alcohol to "evaporate" as many claim.

A challenge to you. Get a bottle of vodka and fill a shot glass to the brim. Leave it unattended until you notice any evaporation. After 3 months of waiting, dump down the sink.

I have an EMPTY airline size bottle of Vodka that will disagree with you.
It evaporated from 3/4 full with Cap on Once the seal was broken. I used the other soaking some 510 atomizers.
Evaporation - Closed - took about 3 months
 
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I'm not saying steeping or even "airing" does not make a difference.

I am saying that it will not cause the alcohol to "evaporate" as many claim.

A challenge to you. Get a bottle of vodka and fill a shot glass to the brim. Leave it unattended until you notice any evaporation. After 3 months of waiting, dump down the sink.
Nobody said it was gonna be a noticeable difference volume wise. But the evaporation of alcohol and the small amount of water does make a difference in the juice. This is coming from someone who has been ordering from the same company for over a year and have compared the same flavor of juice is as much as 4 months and as little as 1 month age difference. JC put DOB on all his bottles so it's easy to tell.
 

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I have an EMPTY airline size bottle of Vodka that will disagree with you.
It evaporated from 3/4 full with Cap on Once the seal was broken. I used the other soaking some 510 atomizers.
Evaporation - Closed - took about 3 months
OOPS sorry I snuck in and drank that. :lol::shock::lol:
 
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