Smoktech Vmax Owners - tips, tricks and quirks

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VAPNJ350

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I talked to ccv today, great customer service by the way, answered all my questions and said ss should be in possibly middle of next week.

Don't take this as written in stone. Lol

Btw anyone have more info on weight reduction of the vmaxes out versus the ss?

I almost went with chrome today, but patience may be a virtue if the ss is lighter.

Lord knows this provari weighs a ton and I am really hoping the weight on the vmax is less.

Anyone out there care to compare a current vmax with batts V a provari w batts?
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I haven't acctually weighed them both myself side by sidebut I think the provari V2 is easily twice as heavy both with batteries in. As far as the SS VMAX to the copper/brass, I would think the SS would be heavier than the chrome dipped brass. Brass/copper is a much better conductor than SS is also...by far. If you like I can get the raw numbers for ya if this isn't enough. The VMAX is SUPER LIGHT that I can assure you. .....J
 

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Tried to upload a picture of my vmax from my phone and tablet with no success. It just says file failed.:closedeyes:


It only allows you to upload pics below a certain KB. Check the size in KB of your pic, it may be too big....wait maybe it's MB.....it's one of the 2. KB / MB
 

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I want to thank you all for this thread. I do not own a vmax (yet) but I have a question I hope you all can help me with. Im rather new to VV vaping and based on general things Ive seen I always avoided looking into mods with stacked batteries thinking they were all generally either unsafe, or at least not as safe as single battery mods.

What makes the vmax, having stacked batteries, safe? I get that its vented well , only use the same batteries in pairs, and charge as pairs, but is that enough? What about the vmax itself makes stacking these batteries safe I giess is my question?

Sorry for the newb questions but I truly try to educate myself on this stuff and I didnt see it talked about yet here. Thanks!
 
I want to thank you all for this thread. I do not own a vmax (yet) but I have a question I hope you all can help me with. Im rather new to VV vaping and based on general things Ive seen I always avoided looking into mods with stacked batteries thinking they were all generally either unsafe, or at least not as safe as single battery mods.

What makes the vmax, having stacked batteries, safe? I get that its vented well , only use the same batteries in pairs, and charge as pairs, but is that enough? What about the vmax itself makes stacking these batteries safe I giess is my question?

Sorry for the newb questions but I truly try to educate myself on this stuff and I didnt see it talked about yet here. Thanks!

I personally think this is a good question and far from "newby". I am also looking to get a Vmax next month thanks to the posts here, but that particular question is always a niggling thought tugging in the background. I cannot recall if this was already resolved in earlier posts here. Would love to hear from the engineers in this thread on this specific commentary. :)
 

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I'd love to see less scared girlie-men and more people that can look up battery info, there's plenty of it out there. Single cell mods have circuits that are not as efficient and empty the battery a lot faster ( a Provari mini with 1x 18350 is good for 2ml of juice ). Stacked cell mods have more power and are more efficient, runtimes on them are significantly better, wether you measure it in hours or mililiters.
As long as you go for good quality cells and you use an adequate charger ( one that does not charge over 4.20 , even 4.21 is considered out of spec ) , you could also use the multimeter to double check that the voltage in the cells is correct, the vmax has the protection circuit built in, it does not allow you to over-discharge the batteries, has short-circuit protection, and they also claim 5 Amp , but if you look at the picture of the one with the cap taken off, those are the thinnest wires i've seen in a mod, that cannot handle 5 amps.

Overall, if the most simple battery charging / discharging rules are respected, the batteries are good quality ( seen plenty weirdos out there that spend 250 on a mod and then they want to buy batteries for 3 dolla ) the risk is no greater than using a single cell.

Most of the " omg , two batteries are scary " is caused by the fact that americans sue over ANYTHING. It's only natural for mod makers and resellers to stay away from a law suit that could wipe them off the market or worse because some random guy tries to use 18 stacked handwatch batteries in his mod.

Over here we'd laugh for 3 days while the victim's finger would heal, and he'd get a serious slapping for even mentioning a law suit over his own ignorance.
 

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I'd love to see less scared girlie-men and more people that can look up battery info, there's plenty of it out there.

Over here we'd laugh for 3 days while the victim's finger would heal, and he'd get a serious slapping for even mentioning a law suit over his own ignorance.

Over here the girlie-men do the slapping. Then the lawsuits start.
 

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I'll post later when I have more time about stacked batteries and the VMAX's well thought out safety features but for now I'll leave you all with some "food for thought" ......We've been stacking batteries for decades....whens the last time you bought a flashlight with 1 single battery. 90% of all flashlights produced have a 2-D cell "stacked" setup....right? And they have little to no electronic safety protection. Being in the career field Im in I really think that from day 1 stacking batteries in the vaping community have had a huge misconception. Theirs some good info out there,....BUT theirs A LOT a really bad false info out there also that I've personally read on the ecf. ....Take care everyone ....J
 

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Got mine (silver) yesterday! :) it's quite a bit different than my vv wood box mod, lol. Seeing how this is my first tube mod, and I have never messed with a high tech device, this is a bit tricky for me. But I will say the first thing I did was to turn the volts down!! 3.7 is all I can handle at the moment with my 1.8 dc cartos, I was at 4.2 or higher with my vv mod.
 

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I didnt realize Id be labeled a "girlie man" and insulted for asking a good question. Nice attitude Matrix .. really? Btw, I did qualify my question. I already understand battery safety. I did my research. I didnt ask about the batteries. I askes about stacking them in the vmax and what makes the vmax safer?

What is it specifically about the Vmax's safety features I should know? Which imo is a good question for people who dont know.

In the future Matrix maybe you should read the question before you insult people. You might "laugh" after blowing a finger off. Good for you chuckels. Stop assuming people havent done their homework before they post. I know what a search function is, and you wouldnt even have online search if it wasnt for guys like me. I made a career out of it.

Thats rude man and Im sorry theres no place for it. Rant ended.

Vapn Ill be looking forward to what you have to say on it if you dont mind. I really respect all the info and work youve put into researching this stuff.
 

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Ok, well my opinion is that it was rude and Ill leave it at that and say no more. And yes, I already know "opinions are like a$%h$%es, everybody has one".
If I may I will chime in on this! Buffalo you have asked a VERY good question for being NEW to stacked battery PV's! The safety features on the VMAX is just like ANY other VV devices on the Vaping market! REMEMBER SAFETY comes first in the hands of the PV owners! I understand there is ALWAYS that what if about stacked batteries, but that WHAT IF in actual REALITY applies to ANY PV device, whether SINGLE or STACKED BATTERY mods! It is VERY IMPORTANT that WE as PV owners follow ALL HIGHLY RECOMMENDED BATTERY options when purchasing ANY PV mod! I HOPE this HELPS!
 
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I think we should keep in mind that anything that can happen with stacked batts can happen with a single battery too, if you short your gear and the mod does not have short circuit protection it will go up in smoke stacked or not. The vmax does have short circuit protection and therfor you should not be concerned about owning one, you will be safe as long as you run quality aw imr batts or similar that can handle the current demands of the vmax.
 
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Thanks guys. Kurt I agree with your reasoning completely. I did see that it had short circuit protection and consider that to be a really good feature. My logic, knowing all batteries can potentially go wonky or up in smoke if used improperly, was along the lines of doubling the batteries is doubling the trouble. I can see thats maybe overly concerned but still I wondered.


As I said, Im aware that charging and using "matched pairs", and charging/discharging them the same is important for safety and the life of the battery itself. I actually do own a lipo sack as well cause I did have an ego batt go up in smoke on the charger when I first started vaping. (that lipo sack charges in a modified lock box now with vent holes drilled in it after that experience). Side note... as any cook knows flour puts out grease fires really well.... and it works on smoking ego batteries too... lol.

I have some experience with a LT 1.5 which has been returned to CCV at this point due to the electronics recall and am looking for other VV options. Hence, why I am more concerned with the safety. Maybe more than I should be but forewarned is forearmed.
 
Being in the career field Im in I really think that from day 1 stacking batteries in the vaping community have had a huge misconception. Theirs some good info out there,.... BUT theirs A LOT a really bad false info out there also that I've personally read on the ecf.
Yeah, that is why I was hoping to hear from an intelligent/knowledgeable source such as yourself. :D I plan to buy it anyway. I read about the reported safety circuitry inside the Vmax and it sounded like it would be sufficient.

And good point about the stacked flashlight batteries. That is along the lines of what I was thinking when I first heard the exaggerated rumors floating around the web, but don't have the technical background to be sure of it.

Personally I don't see anything "manly" about blowing a finger off unnecessarily. lol
 

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I haven't acctually weighed them both myself side by sidebut I think the provari V2 is easily twice as heavy both with batteries in. As far as the SS VMAX to the copper/brass, I would think the SS would be heavier than the chrome dipped brass. Brass/copper is a much better conductor than SS is also...by far. If you like I can get the raw numbers for ya if this isn't enough. The VMAX is SUPER LIGHT that I can assure you. .....J[/QUOTE

If anyone can chime in why it would matter, Brass/Copper vs Stainless Steel as a conductor ?
Thanks everyone this thread has been an education!!
 

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Well It finally arrived and so far well worth the wait......Here it is my ALL CHROME Slick bodied VMAX with BLUE LED with a GT-US top feed Re-Buildable....and it is SAAWEEEEEEEEEEET if I do say so myself. This is well crafted machining. 850A0602.jpg850A0599.jpg850A0598.jpg850A0601.jpg



....................................................................BLISS Take care ALL, J
 
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