Smoktech Vmax Owners - tips, tricks and quirks

[buffaloguy]

karla what is that tank and where did you find it?

I will be trying my new Penelope on my Vmax. Soon as I get some more wire.

I will let you know how it vapes.

 

[Optimo]

Does anyone know how to upload a video?

You gotta upload it to youtube then use the insert video tool up there ^ and copy/paste the url to the video.

 

[fuzzione]

I will be trying my new Penelope on my Vmax. Soon as I get some more wire.

I will let you know how it vapes.

Now that's what I call a successful Vmax beautification program.

 

[VAPNJ350]

Hey freddie, any chance you could post those pics you mentioned of the punch pattern? Also Im still wondering if theres a way to punch holes without a carto punch or a dremel. Ideas appreciated. Thanks.

This is the hole patterns .....I posted these before for Freddie and everyone a while back also.



Basically it's 5 holes on 40mm cartos and 6 holes on XL 50mm cartos and this is the cut and dry of it ::

- 2 holes at bottom just above end cap on opposite sides (I just use the 2 holes on the collar for a guide on the Fusions)
- 2 holes 1/4" above the bottom holes exactly opposite of the 2 bottom holes (now theirs 4 holes in all 4 quadrants around the coil inside)
- 1 hole at the top just under the top cap (should be facing you as your holding your pv to vape. This acts as a top feed to merely keep the filler wet from top to bottom as is only dripping a drop or 2 inside the top but only when held at the 45 degree angle that most of us hold our pv at when vaping.

FOR XL's - I just add 1 hole either at the top opposite of the 1st or I add it in between the top hole aqd middle holes anywhere that looks good and even foe even coverage. REMEMBER: A WET CARTO IS A HAPPY, LONG LASTING, GREAT PERFORMING CARTO.

Keep in mind.....I keep the holes at the bottom somewhat small, but I put bigger holes above the holes below it ( the higher the hole the bigger I make it, but only by a 32nd or maybe a 16th of an inch. If you put bigger holes at the bottom you will get flooding and/or leaking due to their not being enough filler material to absorb the juice between the holes and the bottom connection. After using this technique a few times you'll get right where to do every hole rather quickly. Just use LOGIC. Also the juice mix I use exclusively is 60pg. No distilled, NO PGA...EVER!!

DC CARTO's (Pre-punched/plated w/ 1 hole at bottom) - I ONLY put a small hole at the top "facing me" just under the top cap usually opposite side of bottom hole but only big enough to dribble a drop of juice in everytime I take a vape to keep the top filler wet and to feed the top coil naturally via gravity. ( very small hole, same as bottom hole or smaller)

 

[myxomatosis]

What happened to Freddie?

 

[myxomatosis]

karla what is that tank and where did you find it?

I'm curious too. KIND OF reminds me of the Liberty Flights logo. They have a special place in my heart for breaking me into vaping.

 

[kurtus]

I'm curious too. KIND OF reminds me of the Liberty Flights logo. They have a special place in my heart for breaking me into vaping.

It's the new Penelope atty made by imeo(gg), it can be purchased from clouds of vapors. It's basically a smaller version of the ody.

 

[VAPNJ350]

I'm curious too. KIND OF reminds me of the Liberty Flights logo. They have a special place in my heart for breaking me into vaping.

I believe thats a penelope R.A. tank. It's made by imeo (maker of the GG series pv's) "I think"......way too expensive in my "opinion" . I've NEVER been a fan of GG or anything relating to GG. But that's just me. Personal preference. Just way overpriced.

 

[ukeman]

It's not really a "tank" .. it's a rebuildable atomizer with tank. In my mind there are 2 types of rebuilables: 1. the Genesis which uses ss mesh and kanthal wire for the coil/wick and 2. The GG Odyseuss or iatty, and now Penelope (smaller version) which use thread wick and wire for coil.
Most say and I agree, the flavor is better than standard atomizers. But the hassle of making your own wick/coil, and the price make them not my thing.
IMO the HH357 is king of taste as well as the AVA atomizer which i use exclusively on my VMax V2.
I use an LR AVA (1.6 Ohm) at 3.6v... it really makes the AVA come alive. Best flavor and vapor.

karla what is that tank and where did you find it?

 

[kingvitaman]

Is the Vvmax worth the money I have a Lavatube which cost $40 less it works great on all type of applications and loads I put it thru. But the ego twist just might change my mind on my tube. I bought the 1000 mah and it rocks only knock is the dial is so darn hard to read. How long it will last still remains to be seen but so far so good.

 

[pwyll]

Is the Vvmax worth the money I have a Lavatube which cost $40 less it works great on all type of applications and loads I put it thru. But the ego twist just might change my mind on my tube. I bought the 1000 mah and it rocks only knock is the dial is so darn hard to read. How long it will last still remains to be seen but so far so good.

Is the GGTS worth the money? Is the Precise Plus worth the money? Is the Zenisis worth the money? Cost/value judgements are a subjective area.

In my personal situation, a Lavatube would be a waste of money because even the manufacturer claims it would not be suitable for my vaping habits so it would be a waste of money for me. Thousands of people absolutely adore their LT's, though, so they are definitely worth the money for them. The only way to know for sure would be to try it yourself.

Based on the two PV's you specifically mention, though, you would probably not like it--almost everyone I've seen that was satisfied with an LT or eGo Twist seems to have found the VMax "too powerful." You cannot dial the Vmax down as low as the Lavatube, and you cannot dial many PV's up as "high" as the VMax; it is definitely not for everyone...

 

[kingvitaman]

[Thanks for the info I still may drop the coin on the Vmax just to see if it will suit me I have not bought any 3ohm or higher Cartos yet most of mine are standard res and low res which work for my vaping needs now.
But I think I might be ready to step up to the big boy wattage. Again thanks for the info this place is a wealth of knowledge.
wyll;6600677]Is the GGTS worth the money? Is the Precise Plus worth the money? Is the Zenisis worth the money? Cost/value judgements are a subjective area.

In my personal situation, a Lavatube would be a waste of money because even the manufacturer claims it would not be suitable for my vaping habits so it would be a waste of money for me. Thousands of people absolutely adore their LT's, though, so they are definitely worth the money for them. The only way to know for sure would be to try it yourself.

Based on the two PV's you specifically mention, though, you would probably not like it--almost everyone I've seen that was satisfied with an LT or eGo Twist seems to have found the VMax "too powerful." You cannot dial the Vmax down as low as the Lavatube, and you cannot dial many PV's up as "high" as the VMax; it is definitely not for everyone...[/QUOTE]

 

[fuzzione]

Is the GGTS worth the money? Is the Precise Plus worth the money? Is the Zenisis worth the money? Cost/value judgements are a subjective area.

In my personal situation, a Lavatube would be a waste of money because even the manufacturer claims it would not be suitable for my vaping habits so it would be a waste of money for me. Thousands of people absolutely adore their LT's, though, so they are definitely worth the money for them. The only way to know for sure would be to try it yourself.

Based on the two PV's you specifically mention, though, you would probably not like it--almost everyone I've seen that was satisfied with an LT or eGo Twist seems to have found the VMax "too powerful." You cannot dial the Vmax down as low as the Lavatube, and you cannot dial many PV's up as "high" as the VMax; it is definitely not for everyone...

I've dialed my V1 vmax down to 3v in some cases and I can't really see a use for anything below that. At the indicated 3v it puts out about the same as my 3.6 Volt X2 batteries do; I personally can't see why anyone would want to run it below that power level IMHO. I have no problem at 3v running a LR 306 dripping atty.

 

[martinc]

Heresy...everybody need a Vmax

 

[buffaloguy]

Thanks so much for this. Helps a ton. I did get the fusions from CCV today and have a 3.5ml dct. Now have a few more questions before I commit and ruin a fusion carto... lol.

The 808's are not as long as the dct carto that came with the tank. That one reaches out and over the top ss cap on the tank to take the drip tip. The 808 doesnt even reach the top inner seal/oring of the ss top cap. Is that normal? Can I still use it like that, or do I need to cut the tank itself down?

Also the 808's have that big collar. Is that enuff of a seal to keep it from leaking at the bottom? And they have no holes at all... yep, I know I have to punch some ... but how without a dremel or carto punch? I have other tools, a drill and such... can something else be used?

Sorry for all the questions, but its new to me but Im excited to try it.

This is the hole patterns .....I posted these before for Freddie and everyone a while back also.

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Basically it's 5 holes on 40mm cartos and 6 holes on XL 50mm cartos and this is the cut and dry of it ::

- 2 holes at bottom just above end cap on opposite sides (I just use the 2 holes on the collar for a guide on the Fusions)
- 2 holes 1/4" above the bottom holes exactly opposite of the 2 bottom holes (now theirs 4 holes in all 4 quadrants around the coil inside)
- 1 hole at the top just under the top cap (should be facing you as your holding your pv to vape. This acts as a top feed to merely keep the filler wet from top to bottom as is only dripping a drop or 2 inside the top but only when held at the 45 degree angle that most of us hold our pv at when vaping.

FOR XL's - I just add 1 hole either at the top opposite of the 1st or I add it in between the top hole aqd middle holes anywhere that looks good and even foe even coverage. REMEMBER: A WET CARTO IS A HAPPY, LONG LASTING, GREAT PERFORMING CARTO.

Keep in mind.....I keep the holes at the bottom somewhat small, but I put bigger holes above the holes below it ( the higher the hole the bigger I make it, but only by a 32nd or maybe a 16th of an inch. If you put bigger holes at the bottom you will get flooding and/or leaking due to their not being enough filler material to absorb the juice between the holes and the bottom connection. After using this technique a few times you'll get right where to do every hole rather quickly. Just use LOGIC. Also the juice mix I use exclusively is 60pg. No distilled, NO PGA...EVER!!

DC CARTO's (Pre-punched/plated w/ 1 hole at bottom) - I ONLY put a small hole at the top "facing me" just under the top cap usually opposite side of bottom hole but only big enough to dribble a drop of juice in everytime I take a vape to keep the top filler wet and to feed the top coil naturally via gravity. ( very small hole, same as bottom hole or smaller)

 

[pwyll]

[Thanks for the info I still may drop the coin on the Vmax just to see if it will suit me I have not bought any 3ohm or higher Cartos yet most of mine are standard res and low res which work for my vaping needs now.
But I think I might be ready to step up to the big boy wattage. Again thanks for the info this place is a wealth of knowledge.

That's also a personal preference. I don't own any cartos with a resistence higher than 2.0--which also means I've never used my VMax set higher than 4.2. Eventually I'll get around to getting higher-rated atty/cartos to try out the VMax's higher settings; but I vape 1.6ohm DCC's at 6v and the VMax at 4.2 hits or exceeds that, in my experience.

In the end, though, it's all about what works best for you no matter what that turns out to be

 

[pwyll]

I've dialed my V1 vmax down to 3v in some cases and I can't really see a use for anything below that. At the indicated 3v it puts out about the same as my 3.6 Volt X2 batteries do; I personally can't see why anyone would want to run it below that power level IMHO. I have no problem at 3v running a LR 306 dripping atty.

And that's exactly what I'm talking about. Most vv PV's will dial down to an actual 3 volts. Some people prefer the 3.2 to 3.4 volt range, just as some people can't really be satisfied with anything less than 5 volts or so. With the right HR atty/carto you could emulate good low-voltage vaping, but the VMax would really be over-kill for that, IMO.

And that is my opinion, blasphemy or not

 

[epic1si]

Thanks so much for this. Helps a ton. I did get the fusions from CCV today and have a 3.5ml dct. Now have a few more questions before I commit and ruin a fusion carto... lol.

The 808's are not as long as the dct carto that came with the tank. That one reaches out and over the top ss cap on the tank to take the drip tip. The 808 doesnt even reach the top inner seal/oring of the ss top cap. Is that normal? Can I still use it like that, or do I need to cut the tank itself down?

Also the 808's have that big collar. Is that enuff of a seal to keep it from leaking at the bottom? And they have no holes at all... yep, I know I have to punch some ... but how without a dremel or carto punch? I have other tools, a drill and such... can something else be used?

Sorry for all the questions, but its new to me but Im excited to try it.

you have to cut down the tank to make it a shorty to fit the standard 801 fusions. i'd say almost half an inch basically the same as the height of the black delrin cap now that i'm looking at. make sure you put like 4 punches at least, the first one i did with only 2 holes and i got horrible burnt taste, i've got 4 now and it's much better.

as far as a punch i'm using what you can get at a local hardware store it's called a self piercing saddle valve, usually around 7-8 bucks.

 

[ukeman]

to add to this conversation ... i rotate a bunch of 357's, mostly LR 1.5, but not on the Vmax; yet. Most times i use them at say 3.3v (eGo) to 3.7 if fooling with VV, so basically yeah, the Vmax V2 should be cool, but I just have been cautious with the hh357's as they have taken me a while to get schooled on best way to prolong their life.
I'd definitely consider running a 2.5 or 3.0 HH357 on the VMax.

The money saved between the VMax and some other VV units is substantial, which would help with the cost of a 357 ($23). For a disposable atty I'll wager most VMax users would say I'm nuts, but I've been hooked for about 3 months now at least and imo they are the best vape experience bar none.
The AVA, another "your nuts $" atomizer ($40), is damn good too imo and it is built very strong. It is one that many have not gotten a handle on how to get the most out of; and I'd recommend the Vmax on it for sure. It seems to respond best to shazamm VMax power.

I've dialed my V1 vmax down to 3v in some cases and I can't really see a use for anything below that. At the indicated 3v it puts out about the same as my 3.6 Volt X2 batteries do; I personally can't see why anyone would want to run it below that power level IMHO. I have no problem at 3v running a LR 306 dripping atty.

 

[VAPNJ350]

Thanks so much for this. Helps a ton. I did get the fusions from CCV today and have a 3.5ml dct. Now have a few more questions before I commit and ruin a fusion carto... lol.

The 808's are not as long as the dct carto that came with the tank. That one reaches out and over the top ss cap on the tank to take the drip tip. The 808 doesnt even reach the top inner seal/oring of the ss top cap. Is that normal? Can I still use it like that, or do I need to cut the tank itself down?

Also the 808's have that big collar. Is that enuff of a seal to keep it from leaking at the bottom? And they have no holes at all... yep, I know I have to punch some ... but how without a dremel or carto punch? I have other tools, a drill and such... can something else be used?

Sorry for all the questions, but its new to me but Im excited to try it.

Buff....whats up buddy.....these are 801's NOT 808's. Just so were clear. The collar fits right in the indention on the bottom cap. The plates on smoktech cartos ARE NOT for sealing the bottom or keeping it from leaking....merely to give it a STOPPING point. THATS IT...nothing more...nothing less. The inner O-rings in the bottom cap is what keeps it sealed and free from leaking. Unless you have XL 801's you will need to cut the tube on the tank (that's what I did). You will need a dremel but it doesn't have to be an $80 name brand to get the job done nicely. Harbor freight tool company has a $10 dremal kit that has 80 pieces in it and has EXACTLY the diamond tip bits that I use to do this with. $10 bucks ya can't beat it. Far as other tools to do holes with...not sure, a drill press will work for sure. A standalone drill ? Not real sure or confident about that 1. I know your excited to try this but having the right tools and waiting till you do is much better than wasting the money you spent on the cartos and tank if you destroy them in the process of getting them prepped for function. This is why I was trying to send you a setup already done so all you had to do was put your juice in it and vape away......O'well . If you need any help just let me know.