Smoktech Vmax Owners - tips, tricks and quirks

[matrixxu]

You can use the "screwdriver/pipe/TW" grey 900mah batteries. Those are the largest capacity you can find and work without magnets between them. Any other higher mAh claim is false, the "1200" is way exagerated. I've even had Trustfire "1200" besides being ridiculously long when used in pair last me same time/ML as other 550 real mAh batteries.

There is performance difference when using high drains and non-high drains in the Vmax, it works with both, but high drain definitely offer the needed amperage for the unit to run as intented.

 

[AnsonJames]

So did anyone get a VMAX from madvapes with Ego connection or are they pre-order?

 

[Modnar]

You can use the "screwdriver/pipe/TW" grey 900mah batteries. Those are the largest capacity you can find and work without magnets between them. Any other higher mAh claim is false, the "1200" is way exagerated. I've even had Trustfire "1200" besides being ridiculously long when used in pair last me same time/ML as other 550 real mAh batteries.

There is performance difference when using high drains and non-high drains in the Vmax, it works with both, but high drain definitely offer the needed amperage for the unit to run as intented.

WARNING

Don't put these batteries in your Vmax:



http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...603-sort-unnecessary-warning-vmax-owners.html

 

[VAPNJ350]

just a quick question about the Vmax batteries,, Mine came with 800 mah. And the question is can u use larger mah batteries with out harming the Vmax.

Out of ALLLLL the numerous 18350 batteries I have rigorously tested specifically for the VMAX,(trustcrap...I mean trustfire,...Ultrafire XSL's ,..red knockoffs,...red-orange knockoff,..blue knockoffs,..gray knockoffs,..........THE ""ONLY"" BATTERIES I CAN AND WILL HIGHLY RECOMMEND FOR USING IN THE VMAX IN GOOD CONSCIOUS ARE 2 VERY GOOD BATTERIES,...and for 2 reasons....1. Fitment (they both both fit perfectly with NO ISSUE) ...and 2. POWER (DISCHARGE RATE or AMPERAGE OUTPUT) These 2 batteries are the E'FEST IMR 18350 and AW IMR 18350......""IN THAT ORDER"" I never in a million years thought my AW's would ever be considered my "backup" batts....but they are now after testing the E'fest's side by side to the AW's. Don't get me wrong AW's are still a great battery, a very good battery. But the E'fest's simply out performed them at a 5 amp output and higher up to a true 10 amp discharge. And yes....I WAS BLOWN AWAY BY THIS ALSO....so much so I spent the next 2 hours doing the test over and over then going over the data logger over and over and for another 30-45 minutes just to make sure it was right. .......And it was.

Keep in mind just because you have a battery with a high maH rating DOES ""NOT" mean you have a battery that has a high and stable or sustained discharge rate. This is what you want and what the VMAX "NEEDS". If you have a Ultafire or trustfire that has a high maH rating you can go ahead and take 800-900maH right off the top of that number. EVERY single one of these 2 batteries I have tested over time has shown to be a much less considerable maH rating. I've said it before and I'm sure I'll have to say it a few more hundred times....you would much rather a battery with a 50maH rating that has a 8-10 Amp discharge rate than a 1000maH rating with a 2 Amp discharge rate. (just an analogy) Do you and your VMAX a huge favor...throw out the crap batts...if it isn't a E'fest or AW brand battery your doing your VMAX A HUGE INJUSTICE. lol

These are the ONLY 2Batteries I use, and the ONLY 2 I WILL EVEN RECOMMEND for use in the VMAX....any other battery, and your just not letting the VMAX "be all it can be" .....lol !! Not to mention limiting it's output by the crappy battery your using if it isn't 1 of these 2. Take care everyone. .....................J

 

[fuzzione]

Out of ALLLLL the numerous 18350 batteries I have rigorously tested specifically for the VMAX,(trustcrap...I mean trustfire,...Ultrafire XSL's ,..red knockoffs,...red-orange knockoff,..blue knockoffs,..gray knockoffs,..........THE ""ONLY"" BATTERIES I CAN AND WILL HIGHLY RECOMMEND FOR USING IN THE VMAX IN GOOD CONSCIOUS ARE 2 VERY GOOD BATTERIES,...and for 2 reasons....1. Fitment (they both both fit perfectly with NO ISSUE) ...and 2. POWER (DISCHARGE RATE or AMPERAGE OUTPUT) These 2 batteries are the E'FEST IMR 18350 and AW IMR 18350......""IN THAT ORDER"" I never in a million years thought my AW's would ever be considered my "backup" batts....but they are now after testing the E'fest's side by side to the AW's. Don't get me wrong AW's are still a great battery, a very good battery. But the E'fest's simply out performed them at a 5 amp output and higher up to a true 10 amp discharge. And yes....I WAS BLOWN AWAY BY THIS ALSO....so much so I spent the next 2 hours doing the test over and over then going over the data logger over and over and for another 30-45 minutes just to make sure it was right. .......And it was.

Keep in mind just because you have a battery with a high maH rating DOES ""NOT" mean you have a battery that has a high and stable or sustained discharge rate. This is what you want and what the VMAX "NEEDS". If you have a Ultafire or trustfire that has a high maH rating you can go ahead and take 800-900maH right off the top of that number. EVERY single one of these 2 batteries I have tested over time has shown to be a much less considerable maH rating. I've said it before and I'm sure I'll have to say it a few more hundred times....you would much rather a battery with a 50maH rating that has a 8-10 Amp discharge rate than a 1000maH rating with a 2 Amp discharge rate. (just an analogy) Do you and your VMAX a huge favor...throw out the crap batts...if it isn't a E'fest or AW brand battery your doing your VMAX A HUGE INJUSTICE. lol

These are the ONLY 2Batteries I use, and the ONLY 2 I WILL EVEN RECOMMEND for use in the VMAX....any other battery, and your just not letting the VMAX "be all it can be" .....lol !! Not to mention limiting it's output by the crappy battery your using if it isn't 1 of these 2. Take care everyone. .....................J

J, I don't think I understand that given the vmax's 5a limit, how can it take advantage of the E'fest's increased performance at the 5-10a discharge level? I know I must be missing something here...

 

[VAPNJ350]

Fuzz...Im short on time right now but later today I will be more than happy to answer your inquiry. Check back around 6pm or so. Take care buddy and have a great day......J

 

[fuzzione]

Fuzz...Im short on time right now but later today I will be more than happy to answer your inquiry. Check back around 6pm or so. Take care buddy and have a great day......J

Thanks J, mostly curious that's all and as you've brought my electrical knowledge to this point already, why stop now I say
You too have a great day.

 

[matrixxu]

Getting tired of reading stuff with capital letters and " I HAVE TESTED x and y " ... post some graphs to show the tests.
Regarding the 900mah greys, it's the biggest capacity 18350 out there, and my vmax v2 runs for 15-20% longer on those, i can't feel the power difference between those and AW , i mostly use Sailing Technology 306 2.8 ohm atomizers at ~5v setting on it ( = 1.78 Amps from TWO stacked batteries , in the case our beloved vmax would actually work at the set voltage, so let's say it's 5,5v tops wich would be 1,96 Amp draw, again pulled from TWO batteries ).
The only batteries with wich there's a significant difference in power is with random 16340s wich we know even top brands don't get to 600mAh.
A situation in wich IMR high-drain power would be usefull is if you vape dual coils at high voltage. Even 1.5 dual coil (wich is 2x 3ohm coils ) at 6v you're not drawing more than 2-2.1 amps from one of the two cells, and most people vape their 1.5s at 5v = 1,66 amps drawn from a single cell. Discharge capacity is in general 2C for li-ion wich means 1,8 Amps from the 900mAh battery.

@Random85 : the batteries in the picture would definitely not be recommended, i can provide you with pictures of mine if needed, to show that they indeed have insulation jacket on the bottom.

VAPN350 : try some of the 900 ones ( definitely with insulation jacket on the bottom ), test them out.
It's an alternative. If you haven't tried them, no use to regard them as crappy.

I have no love for particular brands. AW cells come mostly from panasonic, but not for all models. Their 16340 protected can be considered crap for example, it rarely gets above 550mAh capacity, let alone the 750 claimed.
Sanyo 2600 performs just as well as the AW 2600 for a fraction of the price. For a dual 18650 vv mod you can have 3 sets of TF 18650 "flames" resulting in 7000-7200 total mAh for the price of a single pair of 2900-3050 AW "3100", and so on..

There are no charts, no detailed tests on EFEST on the internet, when somebody goes looking for them all that comes up is VAPN350. It would help a lot of people if there were some further details/graphs.

 

[fuzzione]

Matrix, you've been called out before on this thread for being rude and you're doing it again.
There's no need to challenge someone's writing style to express your opinion or get your points across; particularly if you're making spelling and grammatical errors in your own reply.
VAPNJ350 has spent much time and effort providing useful information on this thread. Although I wouldn't presume to ask you to show him some respect, I would ask that you refrain from openly disrespecting him. I'm sure that most of us don't appreciate that.

 

[donesmokin]

So did anyone get a VMAX from Madvapes with Ego connection or are they pre-order?

Just got my MV Vmax a couple hours ago. Heeding advise from this thread I started @ lower voltages. The first thing I put on was a 2.5 ohm single coil XL in a tank @ 4 volts, very nice. I usually run that set up on a straight 5 volt box. Now I've got a dual coil 2.5 on it @ 6 volts. The Vmax is handling it nicely but I won't be getting any more dual coils, I guess I just don't "get it". The MV website had about 300 units when I ordered and got down to the low 200's yesterday. Looked today and they're back up to 300.

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[Topper]

One question - is it there a trick to store voltage settings? I've read somewhere here but....can't find it

 

[VAPNJ350]

@ Matrix,
I don't disagree with you about buying into to brands or brand names just because. I buy a battery after I test it thoroughly and it shows me it's worth buying. Sorry but trustfires and ultrafires (the ones I've tested) aren't worth me spending my money on to put in my flashlights, well maybe my flashlights but not the ones I depend on to work. This is my opinion. Im aloud to have that, and will continue to. You really need to understand just because a battery lasts a long time DOES NOT mean it's a good battery. It means it power is regulated to a certain amperage output and the internal chemical makeup has A LOT of resistance. The reason a "true" IMR "high drain" may not last as long as a pcb protected battery is due to the internal makeup having little to no resistance which is the basis behind the term "high drain" and the cell is able to produce a higher amount of amperage output...or discharge rate. The manganese cathode within IMR batteries is why this is able to happen. Protected batteries aren't usually near as powerful in discharge rates as IMR's. Thats proven. A guy named Mitro did a huge amount of testing on AW, Sanyo 2600, bestinone batteries, and a few others. I have and use the Sanyo 2600 18650 and the Panasonic NCR 18650, but only in mechanical mods. If it's a VV device with electronics, it's either a Panasonic ch18650cgr or AW IMR, atleast until I get the NEW E'fest 2200maH 18650's and test them. Im working on getting my own graphs put together from the data logger but working sometimes 60+ hours a week for HP, when I get home sometimes the LASST thing I want to deal with is more electronics. At any rate here is some charts and graphs for you to look at...and give or take a few .01's and .002's I got the SAME EXACT NUMBERS ON MY TESTS. As far as how I type to emphasize certain things...your the 1st to say anything or for some reason be bothered by it, I guess all in all I would love to have another VMAX owner on the thread but honestly as we ALLL here don't really except or want anyone in here with a bad attitude with anything other than positive things to say with positive friendly attitudes, their are plenty of other threads to read and places to be on ecf, theirs no need to be here if you if you haven't good things to say to our members.

That being said... ok it took some doing and converting on this as I don't think they wanted this to go public but being I got real determined after this, so here it is. This is the E'fest put up to the AW IMR's : ....enjoy.


View attachment AW VS Efest testing report 1st page.pdfView attachment AW VS Efest testing report .pdf

 

[Modnar]

One question - is it there a trick to store voltage settings? I've read somewhere here but....can't find it

You can't...

 

[<---cop]

What are peoples opinions of the black and red "vmax" branded batteries that vendors are carrying?

 

[VAPNJ350]

What are peoples opinions of the black and red "vmax" branded batteries that vendors are carrying?

I haven't got my hands on them yet but I want to just to see if they are IMR's or PCB Protected. The website and other sites show and read conflicting information.

 

[TEKWRX]

I haven't been using my VMAX much latly because I think it's almost TOO powerful for me. I seem to get a burnt taste out of just about everything I put on it. Boge SR, eGo-C SR heads, 2.8 Vivi Nova, and 1.8 Vision chagable head Stardust. I can never go above 3 volts without a burnt taste, so I've been using my eGo Twist most of the time.

I've just gotten serious about DIYing my own liquid, so I figured I better invest in some good dripping atties. I've never had luck with dripping (I'm still a vaping noob I guess), but I just picked up an Ikenvape I06 atomizer based on the good reviews. Wow, so far this thing rocks and it isn't even broken in yet. I got the 3.5oHm version because I figured it would let me take advantage of the VMAX. I'm able to take this sucker up to 5.5 volts and getting tons of vapor and great taste. Plus it looks great on the VMAX with an eGo adapter and eGo drip shield. Really easy to use because the bridge is right at the top of the drip shield

 

[mgmrick]

Ok mv has the newest vmax with ego head.

whats the chances I could dremel out a little of the collar and get same results?

Do we think the 510 connecter is high enough?

 

[VAPNJ350]

Ok mv has the newest vmax with ego head.

whats the chances I could dremel out a little of the collar and get same results?

Do we think the 510 connecter is high enough?

Nope...not even close...take note and pay very close attention to the top cap in the Madvapes pic. The top cap is almost 1/4" bigger on the vertical riser before the taper and the dimples are now on the riser not the taper. That added height of the riser and the added inside diameter of the drip well is the reason why the eGo connection stuff will fit. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU DO NOT ATTEMPT DOING THIS OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. Theirs just not enough of material there to get the depth needed without going completely thru the top cap to make it work. Please rethink this.

 

[fuzzione]

I haven't been using my VMAX much latly because I think it's almost TOO powerful for me. I seem to get a burnt taste out of just about everything I put on it. Boge SR, eGo-C SR heads, 2.8 Vivi Nova, and 1.8 Vision chagable head Stardust. I can never go above 3 volts without a burnt taste, so I've been using my eGo Twist most of the time.

I've just gotten serious about DIYing my own liquid, so I figured I better invest in some good dripping atties. I've never had luck with dripping (I'm still a vaping noob I guess), but I just picked up an Ikenvape I06 atomizer based on the good reviews. Wow, so far this thing rocks and it isn't even broken in yet. I got the 3.5oHm version because I figured it would let me take advantage of the VMAX. I'm able to take this sucker up to 5.5 volts and getting tons of vapor and great taste. Plus it looks great on the VMAX with an eGo adapter and eGo drip shield. Really easy to use because the bridge is right at the top of the drip shield

View attachment 118430View attachment 118431

That is one sleek looking setup TEK.

Wish I could explain your burnt taste problems with all the other heads. Most unusual, as I have both a v1 and v2 vmaxes and run into no such problems with other cartos, tanks, etc. Sure it feels like the vmax hits harder but not to the extent you describe. 2.4 stardusts are no problem on mine at a setting of 3.3-3.7.

 

[mgmrick]

Nope...not even close...take note and pay very close attention to the top cap in the Madvapes pic. The top cap is almost 1/4" bigger on the vertical riser before the taper and the dimples are now on the riser not the taper. That added height of the riser and the added inside diameter of the drip well is the reason why the eGo connection stuff will fit. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU DO NOT ATTEMPT DOING THIS OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. Theirs just not enough of material there to get the depth needed without going completely thru the top cap to make it work. Please rethink this.

I think your right on that. A closer look with mv's logo hiding it a little the end cap does look taller.

thanks