Smoktech ZMax Owners - Pics., Tips, Tricks and Quirks

[natgas]

There's little point to this but IMO, if it's boiling the liquid and smoking and melting the mouthpiece----it's firing! What else could cause all that? Seems you just want to play semantics.

I still want one; I think they are fantastic mods; I have no issues with the Z other than the one I had and I'll get another

 

[kiwivap]

There's little point to this but IMO, if it's boiling the liquid and smoking and melting the mouthpiece----it's firing! What else could cause all that? Seems you just want to play semantics.

I still want one; I think they are fantastic mods; I have no issues with the Z other than the one I had and I'll get another

No natgas - it's not semantics - its that you don't know the differences between some things. And its important if you don't know the reason to not make it up. It may have shorted - not fired. You could have had a faulty battery, you could have had user error, or it may have been the device. The point is - you don't know.

 

[retird]

Earlier post

Assuming that MV provides me with any information, I'll be sure and pass it along

updated us as he said he would

Just received a reply from MV regarding my Zmax issue from a week or two ago. They have been unable to replicate the issue I had with it firing just setting on my desk. There's no telling if it would ever happen again but still, I would prefer to wait for another after some of these issues are worked out. I definitely want to get another at some point.

Thanks for the update...

 

[kiwivap]

Sure - but that wasn't what you quoted retird as an update originally. And what you quoted was not an update. My post here has what you quoted, in its entirety, as an "update".

ETA: to continue saying it "fired' or push comments saying that, when the owner has openly admitted he actually doesn't know that, is just irresponsible.

 

[retird]

So I clicked the wrong post...play semantics.

You can't deny that what happened to natgas occured...and that he reported back to us as he said he would....as I said in an early post...I'm glad natgas was not injured or burned....

 

[me1969]

Plus as soon as he got it he shorted it out but continued to use it until one day it melted .

 

[kiwivap]

So I clicked the wrong post...play semantics.

You can't deny that what happened to natgas occured...and that he reported back to us as he said he would....as I said in an early post...I'm glad natgas was not injured or burned....

It's not semantics- you quoted it. I have never denied what happened, as you should well know. My point is that neither natgas or anyone else at this point knows why it happened or exactly how. But that point was clearly made, and not hard to see. The inferences your making now are unnecessary too.

Anyway - I have a life and things to do and can't be here all day because you like stirring.

 

[AnsonJames]

Sure - but that wasn't what you quoted retird as an update originally. And what you quoted was not an update. My post here has what you quoted, in its entirety, as an "update".

ETA: to continue saying it "fired' or push comments saying that, when the owner has openly admitted he actually doesn't know that, is just irresponsible.

natgas has always been polite with nice posts and he had a legitimate issue with his Zmax.
There have been a couple of other folks who have had their Zmax's firing on their own so it's not beyond the realms of possibility that this is what happened to natgas too.

His update was his reply from MV.

Are you not allowed to post any issues you have with the Zmax unless they're verified by an electronics engineer?

I think you're being a little too snippy.

*edit*
If there is the slightest possibility that natgas's Zmax did fire on it's own then there's nothing irresponsible about his posts - they could save someone from sustaining an injury.

 

[ckone180]

Good post DirkBongo.

So$e people take things too far.

 

[natgas]

So now I'm irresponsible??? Wow man, you need to move on, get a life and let us discuss the issues. Why don't we just discuss the various issues and stop getting so buried in who's right and who's wrong.

 

[AnsonJames]

Here's a post from SolemnPenguin about his Zmax firing on it's own

The button performance on my ZMax has been deteriorating since I posted my initial review.

I've had several instances where the device has continued to fire after I let go of the button until it reached the 10-12 second cutoff (it seems to change each time I count it off). I've had it fire twice while I was just holding it in my hand without my finger near the button. The first time I quickly pulled the battery. The second time I waited to see what would happen and it shut off once it reached the cut off. I pulled the battery at that point so I don't know if it would reset after some period and then fire again.

Additionally, about 1/4 to 1/3 of the time when I fire it it will light the coil for a second or two, then stop. At first I thought I just wasn't maintaining pressure on the button. However, when hitting the switch again the vape would be hotter. In checking the setting I find that my wattage has been set MUCH higher than the value I selected. I decided to fire it a couple times while watching it and discovered that it would fire initially then instantly enter the "Pu" (Power Up) menu and scroll the power setting higher as I was pressing the button.

I initially thought this was a button debounce issue; but that doesn't really make sense since once the bounce settles (within a couple microseconds) the contact should remain constant while the button is held. Entering the Pu menu requires a button-off pause of about 2 seconds followed by the button-on to scroll the setting. So, there has to be something more going on. Maybe a brown out to part of the circuit causing it to read multiple button presses... I just don't know.

And a post from Jackbox about his Zmax firing on it's own;

Just had strange issue with my ZMax. Like others have said if you replace the battery quickly none of the settings go back to default. I was switching the battery quickly and the unit fired without me pressing the button and kept firing. The menu still operated but it continued firing. I had to remove the battery to get it to stop. Cannot replicate the issue. From now on I won't try to replace battery quickly and will wait about 30 seconds or longer before putting in the new battery. It is working well again so I hope my PCB is okay. I don't think it was a pressure against the PCB issue with the battery as it was a flat top IMR 18650 1500Mah battery and never had this happen before. I am thinking maybe not enough residual charge left to keep defaults but enough to confuse the PCB when the new battery was inserted. Anyone else have a similar issue to this?

And a post from JeepBear about his Zmax firing continuously without his finger on the button;

I have had this happen. Luckily mine stops after the 10 second cutoff. I have been able to replicate it, but it has only happened with my 18650s and only if I hit the button within 10 seconds of changing the battery. I need to dig out my multimeter and find if it's at a certain charged voltage or something similar.

I think it's reasonable to surmise that this is what happened to Natgas, I think it's reasonable for Natgas to come to the same conclusion.

The reason people come to this thread is for input in these sort of occurrences, not to be berated - especially when the preponderance of evidence points to Natgas being correct in his assumption that the button/board was faulty on his Zmax.

Incidentally, a short in the Zmax would will result in an error code if the board was working as it should.

 

[Mveraldi]

It seems there is a SS Zmax V2 after all!! take a look at this one added an eight menu option!!

SMOK ZMAX 18650 Mod [SMOK002] - US$125.00 :

 

[muzichead]

No natgas - it's not semantics - its that you don't know the differences between some things. And its important if you don't know the reason to not make it up. It may have shorted - not fired. You could have had a faulty battery, you could have had user error, or it may have been the device. The point is - you don't know.

Just curious here as to what makes you the resident expert on this particular device?? Who are you to say it didn't fire on it's own?? Were you actually there?? I don't think so!! Yes, natgas said in his original post he didn't know what had occurred as he wasn't there with the unit at the time!! He left the room, remember?? You weren't in the room either, so as for your comments, they are total spectulation.. He sent the unit back to the vendor for them to possibly diagnose what had occurred and they were unable to find the problem and that is what he reported back... It seems to me you are a little on the obsessive side of this device. It doesn't seem to matter whether it is someone whom either does or doesn't own one that you get a snippy with because they are pointing out some kind of fault with it. EVERY APV made has some type of fault!! It shouldn't matter who it is pointing out the said faults, so long as they are pointed out, and anyone from our community is so informed of it to make an educated decision when researching to purchase something new for their personal use. You may be completely happy with said device and all the quirks it has and are fine with working around them, but this doesn't mean someone else should have to wait until they buy the device to find out about them and then feel like they ...... away $100 bucks on something they may not have purchased if they had known........ I love this forum for the valuable information you can find on any vaping product out there. Good, bad, or indifferent......

 

[AnsonJames]

It seems there is a SS Zmax V2 after all!! take a look at this one added an eight menu option!!

SMOK ZMAX 18650 Mod [SMOK002] - US$125.00 :

I hope it's accurate.
With the RMS option you'll be able to vape accurately but you'll still be able to "beast" vape too - everyone will be happy.

 

[Stymied]

I hope it's accurate.
With the RMS option you'll be able to vape accurately but you'll still be able to "beast" vape too - everyone will be happy.

Good post! Finally!

And so, let it be said ... on the One thousandth, two hundred and fifty-fifth post - "everyone will be happy"

 

[thejager]

anyone buy from that website?

 

[me1969]

lol read it carefully ,Read the 18350 mode.I love the thing never had an issue but read #1 on the features

 

[AnsonJames]

Just curious here as to what makes you the resident expert on this particular device?? Who are you to say it didn't fire on it's own?? Were you actually there?? I don't think so!! Yes, natgas said in his original post he didn't know what had occurred as he wasn't there with the unit at the time!! He left the room, remember?? You weren't in the room either, so as for your comments, they are total spectulation.. He sent the unit back to the vendor for them to possibly diagnose what had occurred and they were unable to find the problem and that is what he reported back... It seems to me you are a little on the obsessive side of this device. It doesn't seem to matter whether it is someone whom either does or doesn't own one that you get a snippy with because they are pointing out some kind of fault with it. EVERY APV made has some type of fault!! It shouldn't matter who it is pointing out the said faults, so long as they are pointed out, and anyone from our community is so informed of it to make an educated decision when researching to purchase something new for their personal use. You may be completely happy with said device and all the quirks it has and are fine with working around them, but this doesn't mean someone else should have to wait until they buy the device to find out about them and then feel like they ...... away $100 bucks on something they may not have purchased if they had known........ I love this forum for the valuable information you can find on any vaping product out there. Good, bad, or indifferent......

Folks have to realize that not everything that's said here will be agreeable to them.

Without any constructive criticism this place will get boring pretty fast - we don't need to be nasty but the occasional heated debate keeps this place going.

It's that or "fanboy" central.

 

[dwcraig1]

I am stalking my mailman, will post in Max pics soon

 

[dwcraig1]

Debate is good, I only want heated e-liquid