Snails - Response on Threads Part 3

[AttyPops]

Amazing how they "spin" that stuff Catt. "Net Neutrality" and "fast lane (big $$$$)" in same title.
At first, before reading it, the headline sounds as if they were making the net more neutral. Alas, quite the opposite.
They (Big business) is already responsible for upping everyone's NetFlix bill and/or reducing content. (for those that use NetFlix)

Oligarchy indeed.

I can sort of understand their position....that streaming services take up a lot of constant bandwidth. They aren't intermittent. But giving pay-extra-big-players a "separate but equal" "lane" is not the way to go, IMHO. Equality of access to bandwidth is important.

IDK. Maybe NetFlix likes the idea....if they "get something for their money" that they are forced (extorted?) to shell out.

 

[FranC]

 

[CES]

good morning...and so it begins FDA proposes first regulations for e-cigarettes | WHEC.com

and http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/h...or-e-cigarettes.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=1

Under the new rules, companies would have to apply for F.D.A. approval for their products, but would have two years after the new rules are finalized to do so. Companies can keep their products on the market in the meantime. Eventually, the companies would have to adhere to F.D.A. standards for manufacturing their products, not unlike how drug companies and food companies do now, but the agency has yet to write those rules.

 

[Katya]

good morning...and so it begins FDA proposes first regulations for e-cigarettes | WHEC.com

I know... I'm waiting for the bloody ruling. The early indications are that they will punt. But who knows?

Good morning CES!

And Frannie!

 

[CES]

Good morning Katya.

From the articles it looks like the regs (so far) include a ban on sales to minors, and a ban on mentioning reduced harm/safety. Apparently they can't touch flavors until they write the regulations, after they deem them as tobacco products. But who knows.

 

[Katya]

Who knows is right.

E-Cigarettes Face First Regulations - WSJ.com

One of the biggest new requirements is that e-cigarette makers will need to apply to the FDA within two years to keep existing products on the market. The agency then will rule on applications roughly as it does on other tobacco products.

The rules fall short of those governing traditional cigarettes. They won't, for example, ban ads or Internet sales of the products, or the use of flavors in them, which some critics say attracts young users.

 

[CES]

In this case punting is a very good thing. The lighter the regulation, the better.

(i just started reading the WSJ article)

 

[tiburonfirst]

Equality of access to bandwidth is important.

enough said

good morning, ces and tweety!

 

[CES]

oligarchy

Regulators pave way for Internet "fast lane" with net neutrality rules - Apr. 23, 2014

this is just not starting out as a good day....

 

[CES]

Good morning, Tibs

 

[CES]

this is a fun video

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[Katya]

Morning Tibs.

It's going to be an interesting day. I probably should try to get some sleep before the thing hits the fan.

Positive thoughts!

To all of you who are about to start your day, have a good one!

 

[tiburonfirst]

get some sleep, tweety! we'll keep an eye on things from the east coast

nighty, night!

 

[CES]

Sleep well Katya.

 

[AttyPops]

enough said

good morning, ces and tweety!

Poor Tibs. (((Tibs)))

 

[AttyPops]

Good morning snails.

 

[AttyPops]

They could make the e-cig approval thing fairly easy.
They just have "approved nic-base labs" where all the vendors buy their nic base (there's probably only a few now). Maybe the PG and VG too. Then, they just have them list the ingredients in their brews. (the added flavors) maybe all in one sheet (like "Some or all of the following flavorings").

OK...some standards and rules....they have to use sterile water and new/clean bottles. Basically food quality rules...like you're supposed to get in restaurants. FDA food inspectors can check on e-juice shops.

So the "approved nic/PG/VG" labs that source the base would have to do the occasional analysis. But the small juice shops...don't.

 

[CES]

nice to have an optimistic take on it Atty....

I like the idea, though part of me wonders if there might be some restraint of trade involved with having just a few approved nic vendors.

 

[tiburonfirst]

morning, atty!

but where's our frannie?

 

[CES]

She's wandering the halls....