Not when used by teens that aren't otherwise addicted to smoking. (The purpose of the must-have-signature legislation).
If you favor "must ID" in stores, then it's similar to require an adult signature by mail.
If you favor "must ID" in stores, then it's similar to require an adult signature by mail.
this is not 'must have signature' - this is an outright ban
S. 1253, which is the Senate version of HR 3842, is being fast-tracked through committee. This bill would prohibit the U.S. Postal Service from accepting packages of vapor products for delivery.
Yes, but not FedEx or UPS. So it's not a national-ban like some materials. It's a "Must require signature" (and it won't be from USPS).
There are some materials that you pretty much CAN'T ship period. This isn't one of those.
And completely ruin our poor USPS in the process while enriching already rich private carriers like USP and FedEx. What were they thinking?
FedEx and UPS (and the other services) followed USPS because it was the
"right thing to do" re: combustible cigarettes.
The precedent has been set. At least in NY.
I so disagree with you Atty. Did you stop and think what this bill will do to the rural vapers who have no access to vaping shops and are not very rich. To vappers on fixed incomes? To senior citizens stuck in assisted-living facilities? To working parents who will never be able to be home when the package arrives and will have to drive, sometimes for miles, to pick up the damned package instead of helping their kids with homework or sitting down to a nice family dinner.
They can't ship smokes by mail for the same reasons.
Further, most of you at least give superficial lip service to the idea that stores should ID purchases of vape products.
I don't see this as any different. In fact, it basically amends the existing legislation from "cigarettes" to "cigarettes or ENDS" (I abbreviated).
I have enjoyed being able to purchase USPS. But those days are about gone. Bummer, but better for the kids I suppose.
I'd love to see some stats on how many kids actually get vapes that way. But no matter. It's no different for nic-vapes than it is for cigs.
Boo hoo.
THey didn't follow voluntarily. They were forbidden to transport cigarettes by law. But they were overjoyed to pick up USPS's snus and cigar and other "tobacco products" and earn a lot of money when the PACT Acts went into effect in 2010--identical to this bill, except it now includes vaping products.
OK, THAT is an interesting point. If that happens, then we're screwed. But I doubt it will.
Simply because e-cigs are harm reduction and they know that too. Besides, revenue $$$$$$!!!!! talk too.
time to remove myself and try to relax in the upper region
goodnight and sweet dreams to all!
Night, Tibs!
Sweet dreams, tibtime to remove myself and try to relax in the upper region
goodnight and sweet dreams to all!
