Snails - Response on Threads Part 8

[daleron]

Good morning, Dale, Tibs, and late sleepers!!!

Good morning Kat

morning, kat!

dale is raring to go!

No she's not

Morning,tib,dale and Gracie

Good morning Fran

 

[FranC]

Morning,Kat Must have been seeing things.

 

[tiburonfirst]

morning, frannie!

 

[Flowersoul]

Good morning Fran, Tibs, Kat & Dale

Oh, I was up, but was out in the garden giving my babies a thorough watering!

 

[Katmar]

Good morning Fran, Tibs, Kat & Dale

Oh, I was up, but was out in the garden giving my babies a thorough watering!

Good morning, Gracie...bet your babies were happy with you!!

 

[SilverBear]

Glad he'll be discharged tomorrow, hoping that means it isn't too much of a surprise and he's doing OK.

It was just one disappointment (for Dad) after another, which made
*ME* disappointed and aggravated.

The two biggest ones were/are the surgeon decided to do the
angiogram in the "traditional" method of through the groin area
rather than the implied-promise of arm. And that led to the
inability of post-procedure cessation of ALL the bleeding. He
was not gushing blood, but the entry wound would not stop
leaking completely (as of around 19h00).

I also have one BIG question for his surgeon: Why was Dad NOT
told to cease his blood thinner med days prior to the procedure?
My God... if he makes a simple dentist appointment for a
simple cleaning, they tell him to stop the blood thinner 5 days
before the appointment. And yesterday was MUCH more invasive.
I firmly believe if they said "no blood thinner" he would have been
home last night as planned. I am *so* ticked off about that.

Of course, the surgeon will have some answer which will make no
sense at all.

The surgeon also took it upon himself to choose the day and time
of the follow-up visit. No consideration at all to ask if we had a
PREFERRED day (of the week) and time (of day). So it's on a
freaking MONDAY at 08h00. That sent BOTH of us into a "state".
THAT will be changed once he is home.

(And there were/are a few other aggravations... but I'll shut up.)

Grrr.

..........

Rant over.

Happy Thursday, everybody. No idea how today will go, so no promise
of time for stopping in later.

 

[Katmar]

It was just one disappointment (for Dad) after another, which made
*ME* disappointed and aggravated.

The two biggest ones were/are the surgeon decided to do the
angiogram in the "traditional" method of through the groin area
rather than the implied-promise of arm. And that led to the
inability of post-procedure cessation of ALL the bleeding. He
was not gushing blood, but the entry wound would not stop
leaking completely (as of around 19h00).

I also have one BIG question for his surgeon: Why was Dad NOT
told to cease his blood thinner med days prior to the procedure?
My God... if he makes a simple dentist appointment for a
simple cleaning, they tell him to stop the blood thinner 5 days
before the appointment. And yesterday was MUCH more invasive.
I firmly believe if they said "no blood thinner" he would have been
home last night as planned. I am *so* ticked off about that.

Of course, the surgeon will have some answer which will make no
sense at all.

The surgeon also took it upon himself to choose the day and time
of the follow-up visit. No consideration at all to ask if we had a
PREFERRED day (of the week) and time (of day). So it's on a
freaking MONDAY at 08h00. That sent BOTH of us into a "state".
THAT will be changed once he is home.

(And there were/are a few other aggravations... but I'll shut up.)

Grrr.

..........

Rant over.

Happy Thursday, everybody. No idea how today will go, so no promise
of time for stopping in later.

They absolutely should have told him to stop blood thinners for at least 5 days before, if not longer. And they gave you NO results from the test? And you don't have to shut up. Let it all out. I think we ALL totally get that sort of frustration.

 

[SilverBear]

PS: And because he had to spend the overnight (in a "real" hospital
room) it triggered a $500 co-pay. If they had kept him in post-op
in "observation" status, it would be considered part of the procedure.

He/we may fight that when the bill arrives.

 

[SilverBear]

They absolutely should have told him to stop blood thinners for at least 5 days before, if not longer. And they gave you NO results from the test? And you don't have to shut up. Let it all out. I think we ALL totally get that sort of frustration.

Oh... the test revealed no need for any stents or further operations.
So - in a way - it was all for nothing (you know what I mean). The
doc had this all done because "something showed up" in the ultrasound
of a few weeks ago. The path forward is to adjust a specific med.

So *WHY* a follow-up is necessary is beyond me. Just call him on the
phone and tell him what he should do (dosage) going forward. But
nothing is as simple as that. Gotta get the co-pay and insurance
reimbursement. That's how BOTH Dad and I see it. It's a money-grab
dressed up in a "For Your Own Good" costume.

 

[Flowersoul]

It was just one disappointment (for Dad) after another, which made
*ME* disappointed and aggravated.

The two biggest ones were/are the surgeon decided to do the
angiogram in the "traditional" method of through the groin area
rather than the implied-promise of arm. And that led to the
inability of post-procedure cessation of ALL the bleeding. He
was not gushing blood, but the entry wound would not stop
leaking completely (as of around 19h00).

I also have one BIG question for his surgeon: Why was Dad NOT
told to cease his blood thinner med days prior to the procedure?
My God... if he makes a simple dentist appointment for a
simple cleaning, they tell him to stop the blood thinner 5 days
before the appointment. And yesterday was MUCH more invasive.
I firmly believe if they said "no blood thinner" he would have been
home last night as planned. I am *so* ticked off about that.

Of course, the surgeon will have some answer which will make no
sense at all.

The surgeon also took it upon himself to choose the day and time
of the follow-up visit. No consideration at all to ask if we had a
PREFERRED day (of the week) and time (of day). So it's on a
freaking MONDAY at 08h00. That sent BOTH of us into a "state".
THAT will be changed once he is home.

(And there were/are a few other aggravations... but I'll shut up.)

Grrr.

..........

Rant over.

Happy Thursday, everybody. No idea how today will go, so no promise
of time for stopping in later.

Bear, sorry that both you and your dad had to go through all that aggravation!

 

[tiburonfirst]

morning, gracie and bear!

sorry for all the aggravation, bear! but why didn't your dad stop taking the blood thinners on his own?

 

[AttyPops]

Morning snails.

No news is good news, Bear. As to the thinners, yeah, but OTOH he has to weigh the dangers of dropping the blood-thinner on your dad's risk against a little bleeding from one puncture in the groin. Sounds like he decided it's safer to keep him on the blood thinners and take time to let the wound clot up. And since your dad has congestive heart failure, the blood thinners help him have better circulation. Right? Particularly if they were worried about possible blockage. Right? Best not to 2nd guess the guy; at least approach it carefully...like "Did we mess up and miss the instructions to stop taking the blood thinners?"

but why didn't your dad stop taking the blood thinners on his own?

not a good idea, unless they gave him pre-op instructions to do so.

 

[CES]

good morning

(((Bear)))


flyby for now...

 

[daleron]

Good morning Fran, Tibs, Kat & Dale

Oh, I was up, but was out in the garden giving my babies a thorough watering!

Good morning Gracie

It was just one disappointment (for Dad) after another, which made
*ME* disappointed and aggravated.

The two biggest ones were/are the surgeon decided to do the
angiogram in the "traditional" method of through the groin area
rather than the implied-promise of arm. And that led to the
inability of post-procedure cessation of ALL the bleeding. He
was not gushing blood, but the entry wound would not stop
leaking completely (as of around 19h00).

I also have one BIG question for his surgeon: Why was Dad NOT
told to cease his blood thinner med days prior to the procedure?
My God... if he makes a simple dentist appointment for a
simple cleaning, they tell him to stop the blood thinner 5 days
before the appointment. And yesterday was MUCH more invasive.
I firmly believe if they said "no blood thinner" he would have been
home last night as planned. I am *so* ticked off about that.

Of course, the surgeon will have some answer which will make no
sense at all.

The surgeon also took it upon himself to choose the day and time
of the follow-up visit. No consideration at all to ask if we had a
PREFERRED day (of the week) and time (of day). So it's on a
freaking MONDAY at 08h00. That sent BOTH of us into a "state".
THAT will be changed once he is home.

(And there were/are a few other aggravations... but I'll shut up.)

Grrr.

..........

Rant over.

Happy Thursday, everybody. No idea how today will go, so no promise
of time for stopping in later.

Good morning Bear {{{hugs}}}
Hope you can find something pleasant and calming to do today

Glad dad is okay at any rate

Morning snails.

No news is good news, Bear. As to the thinners, yeah, but OTOH he has to weigh the dangers of dropping the blood-thinner on your dad's risk against a little bleeding from one puncture in the groin. Sounds like he decided it's safer to keep him on the blood thinners and take time to let the wound clot up. And since your dad has congestive heart failure, the blood thinners help him have better circulation. Right?


not a good idea, unless they gave him pre-op instructions to do so.

Good morning Atty





Shopping done and outta the way!!

 

[daleron]

And good morning to flyby CES and yet to arrive MadO ( I see you )

 

[AttyPops]

Shopping done and outta the way!!

That so disgustingly productive, and sad at the same time.
((Dale))

 

[SilverBear]

sorry for all the aggravation, bear! but why didn't your dad stop taking the blood thinners on his own?

Because he's 86 and can't think of everything?

Because the surgeon provided a to-do-in-advance 3-page list and
nowhere did it say "if you are on blood thinners, you should <do this>?

(Granted, if it's NOT on the list, there MAY be a reason for it.)

Because the surgeon does this day in and day out and it should
be "procedure"?

 

[AttyPops]

Because he's 86 and can't think of everything?

Because the surgeon provided a to-do-in-advance 3-page list and
nowhere did it say "if you are on blood thinners, you should <do this>?

(Granted, if it's NOT on the list, there MAY be a reason for it.)

Because the surgeon does this day in and day out and it should
be "procedure"?

Which means you should chill.

 

[SilverBear]

Which means you should chill.

It also means if it was an oversight, I am vindicated.

 

[SilverBear]

But yet... when he calls to get an "OK" to stop 5 days in advance
of a dental cleaning, they give him the thumbs-up. So... <???>.

Now time for *MY* appointment... then to hospital to see what's
going on there. Later!!!