Snails - Response on Threads Part 8

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    it just seemed to be such a tremendous difference from the picture i remembered taken at a wedding a good while ago, i think
    I agree but looks are deceiving cause you can see now that he looks sick.
     

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    mr etc-bear - your opinion, please! :) since i'm once again considering marimo balls ;)

    ''No one warns you what these actually are! Everyone raves about these things, so I got some.

    Some websites even recommended opening them up to make flat sheets to decorate your aquarium floor, so I did. Hope you can learn from my very costly mistake. But even the tanks into which I only put intact balls have been infested.

    A few weeks later I noted long strands of darkish green, hair-like algae starting to appear on everything, but especially tangled in amongst my favorite plants. It was hard to detach and with a sewing thread strength. After spending hours on some "Identify that Algae" online articles, I found out what my tanks had was a cladophora algae infestation. The name seemed familiar so I checked and sure enough marimo "moss" balls are actually balls of cladophora algae.

    Over time, little micro strands get loose from the moss ball into your tank and start to attach to everything and then grow like wildfire. That's probably why marimo promo websites have maintenance recommendations to take them out and "gently roll them" to "keep their shape." Ha! That's to tangle longer strands back in to the ball. Won't work in the long run though.

    I fished them all out and binned them but too late, the damage is done.
     

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    mr etc-bear - your opinion, please! :) since i'm once again considering marimo balls ;)

    ''No one warns you what these actually are! Everyone raves about these things, so I got some.

    Some websites even recommended opening them up to make flat sheets to decorate your aquarium floor, so I did. Hope you can learn from my very costly mistake. But even the tanks into which I only put intact balls have been infested.

    A few weeks later I noted long strands of darkish green, hair-like algae starting to appear on everything, but especially tangled in amongst my favorite plants. It was hard to detach and with a sewing thread strength. After spending hours on some "Identify that Algae" online articles, I found out what my tanks had was a cladophora algae infestation. The name seemed familiar so I checked and sure enough marimo "moss" balls are actually balls of cladophora algae.

    Over time, little micro strands get loose from the moss ball into your tank and start to attach to everything and then grow like wildfire. That's probably why marimo promo websites have maintenance recommendations to take them out and "gently roll them" to "keep their shape." Ha! That's to tangle longer strands back in to the ball. Won't work in the long run though.

    I fished them all out and binned them but too late, the damage is done.
    First things first...

    A late-morning "Good Day" to all who feast their eyes on these words. :)

    ..........

    Tibs, I had only one (1) marimo ball. I really do not remember that it
    did anything much for keeping the tank in order. All it did, over time,
    was get pretty nasty-looking.

    It also had the VERY creepy habit of moving around the bottom of the
    tank on its own accord. I never saw legs. So yeah... a "plant" that goes
    from here to there is disconcerting.
     

    AttyPops

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    Oh they or it will slow down or stop growing in low light and can be controlled by crayfish grazing on it . It only reaches plague stage in very high light . It will smother every plant you have and there is no way to recover them . Twirling it around something will remove a lot of it but never all . The crays do finish it off eventually .
    Moss balls - DISLIKE! - The Planted Tank Forum
     

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    @AttyPops has :glare: 'd at me in the past, but...

    ... just finished "the books" on 2018 and ended up 26.1% under
    budget. That leaves two possibilities: 1) I could be less of a
    tightwad
    , or 2) The budget (as set up by my advisor) is much
    too generous. The big factor is the budget had health insurance
    as a line item. (I should re-figure things while totally ignoring it.)

    Then again, all it takes is 1 or 2 unexpected household expenses
    which could blow it out of the water.
     
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    AttyPops

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    I'd tell ya to fork over the cash and spur the local economy, tightwad Etc-Bear, but I don't see where long-term investing is all that bad right now either, and the market is down ATM, so cashing out now is bad.

    OTOH, if you're the "Trump will get us into a war" type, now is the time to purchase assets, or take trips, etc.
     
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    SilverBear

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    I'd tell ya to fork over the cash and spur the local economy, tightwad Etc-Bear, but I don't see where long-term investing is all that bad right now either, and the market is down ATM, so caching out now is bad.

    OTOH, if you're the "Trump will get us into a war" type, now is the time to purchase assets, or take trips, etc.
    I do not allow politics to alter my $ behavior. (For better or worse, I suppose.)
    I leave all of that up to the advisor.

    I did spur it a bit and ordered a new desktop on the 31st. You know, in the
    past, I'd be all kinds of excited and impatient awaiting its arrival. All brand-
    new and devoid of decades-old crap and being oh so very discerning about
    what to re-install and what to trash. This time, I'm kind of dreading it and
    the process of getting stuff from HERE to THERE (*). Supposed to arrive
    tomorrow or Friday. SIGNATURE REQUIRED, so, of course, it will be tomorrow
    while I'm out getting ears lowered.

    (*) Edit: And downloading stuff with the 1 mb/s DSL speed.
     
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