So 5v or 3.7 + LR Cartomizer?

[IMWylde]

I found that the simulated HV of a low res carto at 3.7 volts is just the tickle the wife was looking for with the E-experience. So it has once more fallen to me to provide her with just the right equipment to insure she go on vaping lovely clouds forevermore.

So what do I do do i go for a 5v device with regular cartomizers and an atty (cause she likes to drip at home) or do I get her a 3.7 v something with the LR cartomizers which aren't REAL reliable from what I have heard.

She likes the analogue form factor. But not the fat ego batts. She can get used to about anything as long as it doesn't look like a pipe bomb or an electric toothbrush (her words).

15 years of marriage fellas whattya say help a guy out.

 

[Kent C]

I found that the simulated HV of a low res carto at 3.7 volts is just the tickle the wife was looking for with the E-experience. So it has once more fallen to me to provide her with just the right equipment to insure she go on vaping lovely clouds forevermore.

So what do I do do i go for a 5v device with regular cartomizers and an atty (cause she likes to drip at home) or do I get her a 3.7 v something with the LR cartomizers which aren't REAL reliable from what I have heard.

She likes the analogue form factor. But not the fat ego batts. She can get used to about anything as long as it doesn't look like a pipe bomb or an electric toothbrush (her words).

15 years of marriage fellas whattya say help a guy out.

My experience:

Provapes 1.6-1.7 ohm cartomizers work great on the eGo/Tornado/Riva and get the best vapor without loss of flavor or burnt cartoz.

Provapes 1.6/7 cartoz are too low ohm for the true3.7 Volt Bartleby or Protege and lose flavor to almost tastelessness. Lots of vapor though. IF you were a careful dripper and really flavored up some DIY ejuice this could work, but you'd have to watch how long of draws you take. Burnt out two pretty quickly on the Bartleby but I wasn't really paying attention like I would if I were dripping.

Clouds of vapor 1.8-2.0 cartomizers work great on the 3.7volt mod - long draws so far have not been a problem and I'm getting good flavor. They also work well on an eGo with not quite the Vapor as on the Bartleby but better than a regular 510 atty.

Nhaler's 'mega carto' at 3.4 (some have metered it from 3 to 3.5ohms) is great for the 5 volt - great flavor and vapor and it is similar in wattage as the 1.8/ ohm carto on the 3.7V so you can get that 'simulated HV' experience with the COV 1.8/2 ohm carto on the 3.7V mod and close to it with the Provapes 1.6/7 ohm carto on the eGo....

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

Most PVs capable of using LR atomizers or generating 5V look like what your wife might describe as a "pipe bomb or an electric toothbrush*" (or a box).

* Is she referring to the eGO? It really is very small, you know. Has she actually seen "fat ego batts"? No, they don't look exactly like a cancer stick, but still pretty petite.​

You might want to try an LR 901 atty on a Kr8 battery. The 280 mAh falls under the official threshhold for LR attys, but I bet it would work, especially with a 2.0 ohm atty. This is what it looks like in stainless steel with drip tip.

I call it the DaBoomMod.

 

[Kent C]

I had the same consideration on the mega batts but someone - Scott or Quick1?, convinced me it wasn't the best idea and I quit using them with the LRs. Just saying.... and I've posted that same suggestion on the other boards, just not here.... you choose.

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

The problem is his wife's desire for "the analogue form factor. But not the fat ego batts." If she considers the eGO fat, that really limits the options. [I was tempted to tell him that what she wants is unreasonable/unrealistic, but I couldn't think of a diplomatic way to put it.]

I considered NHaler's Magnum: it's slender enough, but I figured she'd find it to be too long. [And is it 440 mAh? It looks like a 380 mAh XL Kr8 batt with adapter and LR 510 atty.]

Perhaps you could post a caution. I'm not clear what the danger is: shortens the life of the battery? By a great amount? And is that ameliorated by 2.0 ohms rather than 1.5 ohms?

BTW, that photo is a regular 901 atty on a regular Kr8 batt, so I myself have been a good boy. But what I described would look just like it.

 

[Kent C]

The problem is his wife's desire for "the analogue form factor. But not the fat ego batts." If she considers the eGO fat, that really limits the options. [I was tempted to tell him that what she wants is unreasonable/unrealistic, but I couldn't think of a diplomatic way to put it.

I considered NHaler's Magnum: it's slender enough, but I figured she'd find it to be too long. [And is it 440 mAh? It looks like a 380 mAh XL Kr8 batt with adapter and LR 510 atty.]

Perhaps you could post a caution. I'm not clear what the danger is: shortens the life of the battery? By a great amount? And is that ameliorated by 2.0 ohms rather than 1.5 ohms?

BTW, that photo is a regular 901 atty on a regular Kr8 batt, so I myself have been a good boy. But what I described would look just like it.

I used to make the argument that if all it does was shorten battery life then, no big deal....

Then this:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...510-stock-180mah-batteries-6.html#post1528040

The blue type is from a vendor from asking Joye tech directly. And it was what you had said here, in an internal, about current in HV vs. LV that results in the same wattage. Not sure what the higher current actually would do but coupled with the other info I decided to quit using it on the mega batts. I won't do a caution over your post. So I'll just step aside ;-)

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

There is a big difference between 2.0 ohms and 1.5 ohms on a 3.7V battery. For 2.0 ohms: 1.8. For 1.5 ohms: 2.5 amps. For comparison, a 2.3 ohm regular 510 on 3.7 is 1.6 amps; on a 3.4V eGO it is 1.5 amps; on a 3.1V 510 it is 1.35 amps.

To me, it seems that cutting back to 2.0 ohms is no big deal. And the improvement in watts is worth it: 2.3 ohms on a 3.4V eGO is 5 watts; 2.0 ohms on 3.7V Kr8 is 6.8.

BTW, I use Ohm's and Joule's Law Calculator for this.

How mAh figures into all of this I'm still not clear. It probably has something to do with the battery's ability to withstand amperage. A 280 mAh Kr8 should be able to withstand that slightly higher amperage of a 2.0 ohm atty (1.8 amps) compared to 2.3 ohm atty originally intended for the 180 mAh 510 (1.35 amps). Proportionately, it makes sense. [The 2.5 amps of a 1.5 ohm atty may be stretching it.]

 

[Kent C]

There is a big difference between 2.0 ohms and 1.5 ohms on a 3.7V battery. For 2.0 ohms: 1.8. For 1.5 ohms: 2.5 amps. For comparison, a 2.3 ohm regular 510 on 3.7 is 1.6 amps; on a 3.4V eGO it is 1.5 amps; on a 3.1V 510 it is 1.35 amps.

To me, it seems that cutting back to 2.0 ohms is no big deal. And the improvement in watts is worth it: 2.3 ohms on a 3.4V eGO is 5 watts; 2.0 ohms on 3.7V Kr8 is 6.8.

BTW, I use Ohm's and Joule's Law Calculator for this.

How mAh figures into all of this I'm still not clear. It probably has something to do with the battery's ability to withstand amperage. A 280 mAh Kr8 should be able to withstand that slightly higher amperage of a 2.0 ohm atty (1.8 amps) compared to 2.3 ohm atty originally intended for the 180 mAh 510 (1.35 amps). Proportionately, it makes sense. [The 2.5 amps of a 1.5 ohm atty may be stretching it.]

One other post that affected my decision, regarding discharge rate.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...510-stock-180mah-batteries-5.html#post1512829

I understand that the 2.0 carto would likely not be a problem. This just harkens back to the liability concern that Roly had on what we said on the experts forum and thought I'd mention it.