So I went to 3 doctors...annnnnd I think vg hates me.

[Gazoo2You]

Yes, that's exactly bi-positional vertigo.
I don't have asthma so my body corrected itself naturally by sleeping on its back only.
Before the vertigo, I wasn't able to, found it uncomfortable but my body had a miraculous way of changing that.
Now i can't imagine sleeping on my sides as I once did.
But sleeping on the back is the worst to do to trigger sleep apnea.
They couldn't even test me properly for it.
Tests consist of time on ones side for 30 mins, asleep to see how you react but my body refused to stay on its side..lol...so they were never able to give me an accurate test.
I just know today, if I sleep on my back, without the mask, I feel a heaviness in my body that is not pleasant causing apneas, seconds where i stop breathing
With the mask, which i don't even notice i wake up without any of that feeling and nightly records of Zero apneas.
I suspect, as we age past our 40s, that more people have it but might never realize they do and haven't any reason to test for it.
I have doubts as to whether I would have seen reason to test for it, other than a doctor who put it together with vertigo.

Enough of that. Its not to do with an intolerance to VG.
Interestingly enough, after chatting with you last night, I put an immediate stop to the 70VG/30 PG juice I vape. Been about 12 hours now.
I just cleared/coughed up some phlegm, the first time since I smoked. Don't even remember coughing it up after I stopped and began to vape.
Figured it expelled itself another route.

So looking more and more as if you are right and it is VG, not PG and maybe, the extra 20% is what was triggering it more.
Timing might tie into when I first bought the 70/30 but not positive.
Fingers are crossed that 50/50 will be fine but will start DIY early next week and experiment then.

In case we don't speak of this again, please accept a thank you, both AndriaD and BluJess. Without this particular thread, I don't know if I would have tied it in, let alone to VG.
So do know it appears as if you both helped at least one vaper, sort this out and hopefully, this will be the end of it!!

 

[Gazoo2You]

So, a couple days now and my throat is 99% better.

Interestingly, I have only been vaping on a Uwell Crown atty I have. I hate its RBA deck. Muted taste no matter what build I put in it but I love its pre-made 0.15 coils in TC mode. The flavour is outstanding with these coils. I usually hate pre-mades because I vape Vanilla, Custards, dessert vapes and they bung up coils within 3-4 good days at the most before to bunged up and I have to pop in a new coil. On builds I make, I re-wick every second day. But the 0.15 coils on this tank, for some reason, last me 5-6 weeks, even using Vanilla Custards (can't explain it but on 4-5th coil and all last the same way )
For that reason, I rebuild all of my coils, on about 12-15 attys but will use pre-mades on a Nautilus Mini + this Uwell only.

It's the only atty I use at high wattage. I vape it at 40 watts on 435F but the vape is far more *spread out* than most other attys I find. I find others, whether it's a Nautilus Mini, a Goliath, Bellus and so on, they tend to directly hit the the same spot each time at the back of my throat but this Uwell Crown and its premade coil does not. Normally that's great but I think that my throat, already irritated or sore, or full of phlegm, could not even handle a Nautilus Mini at 11 watts. Even trying to heal back at 50/50 it was still irritating an irritated spot each time I vaped.
This Uwell might be allowing me to heal because it's not hitting that exact same spot, at all.

I will give it a couple more days healed 100%. Then I will re-introduce the 70VG/30PG but only on a Nautilus tank at 11 watts 1.16ohms and see if I get this same reaction.If I do, then I know without any doubt that it is the 70% VG.
If I don't, then I will vape for a few days straight, on a dual coil Bellus at 0.7 - 20 watts and see if that causes it at all, but on 50/50. If not then I will move it up a bit to 0.5 dual at 22watts and see how it goes.

I want to be sure, at the end, that it is, without a doubt, extra VG causing this. I want to be sure that it isn't somehow heat/higher wattage/etc; either adding to it or even creating it. By which point I should have 100% my answer.

Still wonders how BlueJess is doing but I see she doesnt read/post here all that often. Hope she's feeling better herself.

 

[AndriaD]

So, a couple days now and my throat is 99% better.

Interestingly, I have only been vaping on a Uwell Crown atty I have. I hate its RBA deck. Muted taste no matter what build I put in it but I love its pre-made 0.15 coils in TC mode. The flavour is outstanding with these coils. I usually hate pre-mades because I vape Vanilla, Custards, dessert vapes and they bung up coils within 3-4 good days at the most before to bunged up and I have to pop in a new coil. On builds I make, I re-wick every second day. But the 0.15 coils on this tank, for some reason, last me 5-6 weeks, even using Vanilla Custards (can't explain it but on 4-5th coil and all last the same way )
For that reason, I rebuild all of my coils, on about 12-15 attys but will use pre-mades on a Nautilus Mini + this Uwell only.

It's the only atty I use at high wattage. I vape it at 40 watts on 435F but the vape is far more *spread out* than most other attys I find. I find others, whether it's a Nautilus Mini, a Goliath, Bellus and so on, they tend to directly hit the the same spot each time at the back of my throat but this Uwell Crown and its premade coil does not. Normally that's great but I think that my throat, already irritated or sore, or full of phlegm, could not even handle a Nautilus Mini at 11 watts. Even trying to heal back at 50/50 it was still irritating an irritated spot each time I vaped.
This Uwell might be allowing me to heal because it's not hitting that exact same spot, at all.

I will give it a couple more days healed 100%. Then I will re-introduce the 70VG/30PG but only on a Nautilus tank at 11 watts 1.16ohms and see if I get this same reaction.If I do, then I know without any doubt that it is the 70% VG.
If I don't, then I will vape for a few days straight, on a dual coil Bellus at 0.7 - 20 watts and see if that causes it at all, but on 50/50. If not then I will move it up a bit to 0.5 dual at 22watts and see how it goes.

I want to be sure, at the end, that it is, without a doubt, extra VG causing this. I want to be sure that it isn't somehow heat/higher wattage/etc; either adding to it or even creating it. By which point I should have 100% my answer.

Still wonders how BlueJess is doing but I see she doesnt read/post here all that often. Hope she's feeling better herself.

If it's the higher VG causing it, then higher heat/wattage might contribute to the overall effect, just by making more vapor, sorta doubling the ill-effect of the VG -- I have to stick with 85%-ish PG, but also vape at 9w (or less) with a 1.7 ohm coil, just because too much vapor is not a good thing for my lungs.

Glad to hear your throat is feeling better!!!!

Andria

 

[Gazoo2You]

Thanks. Yeah, even my Nautilus at 1.16 ohms was aggravating it, I believe now. This one atty I mentioned is the only one I vape so high with but the taste is incredible on it, so I love it. Can't explain how but it seems not to hit the back of the throat as others do but just mist all over, no direct hits, hence, i could tell it was healing easily, without having to even stop vaping for 12-48 hours

 

[AndriaD]

Thanks. Yeah, even my Nautilus at 1.16 ohms was aggravating it, I believe now. This one atty I mentioned is the only one I vape so high with but the taste is incredible on it, so I love it. Can't explain how but it seems not to hit the back of the throat as others do but just mist all over, no direct hits, hence, i could tell it was healing easily, without having to even stop vaping for 12-48 hours

You said it was on a TC mod? The short time I tried one of those, the *softness* of the vape was one of the things I most disliked about it, but it may be exactly what you need! I love a really intense TH, but with higher PG, some folks just can't tolerate it -- sometimes I have to be careful with it myself, or it can make me cough, especially when I first wake in the morning.

Andria

 

[Gazoo2You]

I use several different mods. Most are TC but most I use on Power mode. I do love the taste of Ni200 but I find building on it too finicky so I don't use Ni200 much at all but this one atty uses pre-made Ni200 coils which are, IMO, the best coils I have ever used so I use those on it, rather than rebuilding my own as I can't possibly make it better than it is.

If by *softness* you mean not enough power, than that could be due simply to not having put it up high enough Temp wise, but understand I am not terribly sold on TC either, yet. I don't vape high enough to worry about not burning my wicks. I don't anyhow. I do like it for taste. It delivers a much deeper taste but also understand that it takes quite a bit of fiddling to find that right spot. I was fortunate in having access to other TC users before me, using the same atty as I, and so on, and would simply ask them what best temp to use. Otherwise, I likely would never have guess where to go on it.
Bottom line IMO? If vaping as you do, I dont think its an expense necessary. I have an aversion to inferior metals (wire) whether Chinese or even American. I can't, for example, buy Telco branded wire on eBay for 10x less than the rolls of VapoWire, for example. The minute I do that, I taste metal very quickly. I can't use clone atomizers either. I seem to react to something, not sure if it's Brass within but it seems to just happen on cheaper products. If I were a cloud blower, maybe i wouldn't notice? lol But I am really sensitive to my juice not tasting exactly as I want, and expect it to taste so cheaper wire, atomizers, don't work for me.
That's all I can think of when you mean tc mods provide too soft a vape for you.

 

[Gazoo2You]

what's an intense TH mean?

Edit: Temperature?

 

[Gazoo2You]

Question of you? You buy Nic for DY in PG base, I take it? ( think u have a choice of PG or VG based nicotine?)

 

[AndriaD]

I use several different mods. Most are TC but most I use on Power mode. I do love the taste of Ni200 but I find building on it too finicky so I don't use Ni200 much at all but this one atty uses pre-made Ni200 coils which are, IMO, the best coils I have ever used so I use those on it, rather than rebuilding my own as I can't possibly make it better than it is.

If by *softness* you mean not enough power, than that could be due simply to not having put it up high enough Temp wise, but understand I am not terribly sold on TC either, yet. I don't vape high enough to worry about not burning my wicks. I don't anyhow. I do like it for taste. It delivers a much deeper taste but also understand that it takes quite a bit of fiddling to find that right spot. I was fortunate in having access to other TC users before me, using the same atty as I, and so on, and would simply ask them what best temp to use. Otherwise, I likely would never have guess where to go on it.
Bottom line IMO? If vaping as you do, I dont think its an expense necessary. I have an aversion to inferior metals (wire) whether Chinese or even American. I can't, for example, buy Telco branded wire on eBay for 10x less than the rolls of VapoWire, for example. The minute I do that, I taste metal very quickly. I can't use clone atomizers either. I seem to react to something, not sure if it's Brass within but it seems to just happen on cheaper products. If I were a cloud blower, maybe i wouldn't notice? lol But I am really sensitive to my juice not tasting exactly as I want, and expect it to taste so cheaper wire, atomizers, don't work for me.
That's all I can think of when you mean tc mods provide too soft a vape for you.

It's really hard to describe what I mean by soft vape... it didn't really have any TH at all, and very little flavor, compared to what I'm used to with kanthal; it just never seemed to "get there." I tried between 350F and 425F, and turning up the heat didn't improve the vape any, it just made it hotter; 425F was just a bit too warm, but no better for TH or flavor. To me, titanium wire just didn't provide enough flavor, compared to kanthal, and it also bugged me that I couldn't dry burn it to clean off gunk, because my ADV is a *massive* gunk monster -- with titanium,after one day's vaping, it wouldn't vape at all anymore unless I replaced the coil, and one day's use from wire that costs more than twice what kanthal costs is just not workable.

what's an intense TH mean?

Edit: Temperature?

Temperature can help it, but it's really not about the temperature -- I don't like a hot vape, but just barely warm -- but about the sensation in my mouth and throat -- a tingle, like a hit from a cigarette, slightly softer than the tingle from a freshly-opened coke. If I don't *feel* something in my mouth and throat, I'm not satisfied. I had a hard time finding that in an ultra-light cigarette when I switched to those; turned out that my same brand, Virginia Slims, was the only one that still provided a good throat hit even in their ultra-light version. I have to feel it, or it's just not there. With vaping, it's mostly from nicotine, but higher PG accentuates the nicotine TH; since I've been dropping my nic level, I've added more of FlavourArt's Flash additive, to maintain the TH even though the nicotine is now 50% less.

Question of you? You buy Nic for DY in PG base, I take it? ( think u have a choice of PG or VG based nicotine?)

Yes, I always get my nicotine in PG; I once tried out a 50/50 mix, but it's just too thick, when fresh from the freezer or fridge, and with the 85% PG that I vape, really PG is the best possible option for me.

Andria

 

[Gazoo2You]

Ok, I understand what you mean. Yes, aside from using it with SS which I am still accustoming myself to, I never did as of yet try T1. I never saw any other than chinese branded. It might have changed since, I really should look again but i have a bad reaction to cheap/inferior metal, including clones, chinese or even cheap american wire, kanthal, Ni200 so I knew it was likely pointless to even try T1.
I love SS but I actually love Kanathal so TC I do partake in, but not to a great deal anymore - other than the Crown Ni200 coils.

I understand your thoughts on barely warm vapes.

Ok good to know about Nic in PG. I wasn't aware that it came either way to be honest until I looked at ordering it yesterday, which I will do tomorrow. I double checked and the recipe I first want to copy does say PG Nic. I thought when I asked you that, it was VG Nic. Fortunately i was mistaken.
Thx

 

[blujess]

So, a couple days now and my throat is 99% better.

Interestingly, I have only been vaping on a Uwell Crown atty I have. I hate its RBA deck. Muted taste no matter what build I put in it but I love its pre-made 0.15 coils in TC mode. The flavour is outstanding with these coils. I usually hate pre-mades because I vape Vanilla, Custards, dessert vapes and they bung up coils within 3-4 good days at the most before to bunged up and I have to pop in a new coil. On builds I make, I re-wick every second day. But the 0.15 coils on this tank, for some reason, last me 5-6 weeks, even using Vanilla Custards (can't explain it but on 4-5th coil and all last the same way )
For that reason, I rebuild all of my coils, on about 12-15 attys but will use pre-mades on a Nautilus Mini + this Uwell only.

It's the only atty I use at high wattage. I vape it at 40 watts on 435F but the vape is far more *spread out* than most other attys I find. I find others, whether it's a Nautilus Mini, a Goliath, Bellus and so on, they tend to directly hit the the same spot each time at the back of my throat but this Uwell Crown and its premade coil does not. Normally that's great but I think that my throat, already irritated or sore, or full of phlegm, could not even handle a Nautilus Mini at 11 watts. Even trying to heal back at 50/50 it was still irritating an irritated spot each time I vaped.
This Uwell might be allowing me to heal because it's not hitting that exact same spot, at all.

I will give it a couple more days healed 100%. Then I will re-introduce the 70VG/30PG but only on a Nautilus tank at 11 watts 1.16ohms and see if I get this same reaction.If I do, then I know without any doubt that it is the 70% VG.
If I don't, then I will vape for a few days straight, on a dual coil Bellus at 0.7 - 20 watts and see if that causes it at all, but on 50/50. If not then I will move it up a bit to 0.5 dual at 22watts and see how it goes.

I want to be sure, at the end, that it is, without a doubt, extra VG causing this. I want to be sure that it isn't somehow heat/higher wattage/etc; either adding to it or even creating it. By which point I should have 100% my answer.

Still wonders how BlueJess is doing but I see she doesnt read/post here all that often. Hope she's feeling better herself.

Back, lol. Rough few days, sick cats, vet visits, da da da...it's a bad time of year. Boo.
Any way, I'm doing 70 pg 30 vg and it seemed fine at first mostly but now the head aches, soreness, occasional throat discomfort, muscle and joint pains are getting worse. Went back to 50/50 for 2 days, those got slightly better (maybe placebo? Felt like they did tho) but my breathing got bad again when I did. Ehhghh. I have 65/35 pg vg and 60/40 pg vg arriving mid week. Maybe that'll be enough to breathe better but lessen the effects of the pg. Doc app Thursday just to be sure it IS PG and not illness.

 

[blujess]

PS I am literally the most sensitive person to stuff ever though, so I'm not surprised. Growing up I had to use special laundry detergent, special soaps, couldn't wear certain fabrics, allergic to animals....trees, grasses, omg I had one of those scratch tests once and the docs were so shocked that MOST things came up as allergies instead of like just a few. My PCP actually prescribes me pediatric doses of everything since I have difficulty tolerating medicines. I've always been strange that way. So it's gonna be a journey finding a vape that works, unfortunately. But the gum never worked, nor did patch, can't tolerate chantix or wellbutrin so this I feel is the only thing that will work to keep me off cigs til I can eventually 0 nic and done.....so, fingers crossed.

 

[AndriaD]

PS I am literally the most sensitive person to stuff ever though, so I'm not surprised. Growing up I had to use special laundry detergent, special soaps, couldn't wear certain fabrics, allergic to animals....trees, grasses, omg I had one of those scratch tests once and the docs were so shocked that MOST things came up as allergies instead of like just a few. My PCP actually prescribes me pediatric doses of everything since I have difficulty tolerating medicines. I've always been strange that way. So it's gonna be a journey finding a vape that works, unfortunately. But the gum never worked, nor did patch, can't tolerate chantix or wellbutrin so this I feel is the only thing that will work to keep me off cigs til I can eventually 0 nic and done.....so, fingers crossed.

I was a lot like that as a kid! My grandmother sewed a lot, so she went to fabric stores a lot.. but I could NOT go with her, or spend more than 5 minutes in there, or I'd be practically clawing my face off -- I guess from the dyes. Same for BBQing on a standard charcoal grill, with that liquid petroleum gunk to accelerate the fire -- I can stand that now, if I get my husband to go easy on the firestarter stuff, and dyes don't seem to bother me either, but some detergents, gahhh, break me out in a horrible rash, and I figured out that my cat allergy is because of the detergent allergy, when I read that they have detergent in their saliva -- that's why they lick constantly! I never could have a cat till they started making 24 hr antihistamines -- so now I take a Zyrtec every morning, straight outta bed.

It really is a huge PITA, having to decide between irritated mucosa or ability to breathe. I just mixed a fresh batch day before yesterday, 85% PG this time, and the vapor is so thin, but I was coughing a lot all week, and I know that means that my tolerance to 84%/16% is about done for now. At one point, I tried out the PEG400 stuff, but it has an odd taste; hard to describe, but to me it almost seemed reminiscent of dill. My reading suggested that it wouldn't be any easier on my mucosa or possibly even my lungs, so I gave up on that. This is probably the biggest reason why I might one day decide to give up on vaping; no time soon, of course, but the "carriers" (PG/VG) just aren't very friendly to some people. Hard to imagine how I tolerated smoking for 39 yrs! I guess that can be chalked up to all the chemical yuck that BT adds to cigarette tobacco, to make it easier to inhale. and although I'm at 5mg for the winter, to see if that helps my cold hands and feet, in the spring I might go back up a bit, to try and vape less -- that helped, in the summer of '14; I went from 8-9mg to 10mg, and I actually did vape less.

Andria

 

[Gazoo2You]

Really sorry to hear that BluJess.Now I read all about your earlier intolerances, I am not too surprised to hear what you are experiencing. I guess I was very lucky in solving mine as I have never been allergic to anything in my life. I am also one of the ones that can handle Champix. I used it when I quit and it solved the issue of a physical withdrawal perfectly. It was the mental withdraw that its unable to work on. E-Cigs solved that. I did try Wellbutrin once, years ago and had to stop it. It created anxiety. Apparently 2% of the population cannot take antidepressants, and I guess I fall within that 2%.
Overall I have been very fortunate with vaping, except for this one issue of VG over 50%.

If it were me, I would want to have a poll done. I would want to see if a great majority of these intolerances to VG are being seen mainly on higher wattage, sub ohm type devices or at all on ego or even nautilus type machines? Not you BluJess but just overall. Judging from myself, even if I had just moved down to a Nautilus device using 50/50, I don't think my phlegm problem would have cleared up at all or at least as easily. I feel that it needed to heal and I was fortunate enough to have a different device that allowed the vapor more of a an overall mist, rather than hitting the same spot in my throat over and over. Even a cool vape such as a Nautilus with aspire 0.16 coils still hits that same spot. From here on in, I will watch this spot very carefully. I am not so sure that it's healthy to aggravate one spot repeatedly. In any event this thread has opened my eyes up to watching this much more closely in future.

QUESTION: Is joint pain something that those with issues of VG complain of?

 

[AndriaD]

Really sorry to hear that BluJess.Now I read all about your earlier intolerances, I am not too surprised to hear what you are experiencing. I guess I was very lucky in solving mine as I have never been allergic to anything in my life. I am also one of the ones that can handle Champix. I used it when I quit and it solved the issue of a physical withdrawal perfectly. It was the mental withdraw that its unable to work on. E-Cigs solved that. I did try Wellbutrin once, years ago and had to stop it. It created anxiety. Apparently 2% of the population cannot take antidepressants, and I guess I fall within that 2%.
Overall I have been very fortunate with vaping, except for this one issue of VG over 50%.

If it were me, I would want to have a poll done. I would want to see if a great majority of these intolerances to VG are being seen mainly on higher wattage, sub ohm type devices or at all on ego or even nautilus type machines? Not you BluJess but just overall. Judging from myself, even if I had just moved down to a Nautilus device using 50/50, I don't think my phlegm problem would have cleared up at all or at least as easily. I feel that it needed to heal and I was fortunate enough to have a different device that allowed the vapor more of a an overall mist, rather than hitting the same spot in my throat over and over. Even a cool vape such as a Nautilus with aspire 0.16 coils still hits that same spot. From here on in, I will watch this spot very carefully. I am not so sure that it's healthy to aggravate one spot repeatedly. In any event this thread has opened my eyes up to watching this much more closely in future.

QUESTION: Is joint pain something that those with issues of VG complain of?

I dunno about others, but I have a lot of issues with my joints, connective tissue, etc -- my knees are a trouble spot; they used to sometimes actually go backward, and still are prone to too much side-movement, which is very painful. My grandmother suffered terribly with arthritis in her hands, and I've had a few issues already with the big thumb joint on my right hand, and can probably expect more as I grow older. I've never broken a bone (knock on wood), but have sprained my ankles many times. My right shoulder is my cross to bear these days; I injured it about 15 yrs ago, I suspect something in the rotator cuff, and apparently it never healed right, and still hurts terribly, a lot of days -- I've started taking Alleve some nights, so it's not so painful when I wake up.

The thing about high wattage doesn't apply in my own case; I really can't stand a vape over about 10w, and generally stay around 8.5-9 watts with my Achilles -- I usually stayed at 10w with a Kayfun. I just can't tolerate the increased vapor that higher heat generates, and too much heat also plays hell with my lips. But it does seem to be the case that some of us just can't handle a lot of vapor, whether from high wattage or VG.

Interesting about the Welbutrin; I was taking it about 12 yrs ago for depression, and though at the time I had *negative* interest in quitting smoking, I found that I could postpone an after-meal cigarette for up to a half-hour, while I was taking that. I actually cut down on my smoking considerably while taking it, though it wasn't very effective for depression, and when I switched to Effexor, I went back to about a pk a day. I would never even consider Chantix, with my history of depression and anxiety; I can feel suicidal quite easily all on my own, don't need a pill to make it worse.

Andria

 

[Gazoo2You]

Trigger Finger and Trigger Thumb | eOrthopod.com

BluJess mentioned joint pain. I have seen it mentioned in 2 other circumstances.

My *trigger finger*, the one beside the thumb, about 3 months ago, same time as this phlegm began, started to become quite stiff. I presumed it might be the first sign of early arthritis, or because i put a lot of pressure on it due to a sport, that perhaps I had caused it. My doctor said it was most likely a tendon, therapy would not be required unless it became worse. I could not bend it and if i tried to, it felt as if it were going to *pop out* nearest my hand, rather than the end of the finger. That was 3 weeks ago, after about 2 months of it first starting up. It got worse since then. All of a sudden, s ince the other night and the end of vaping 70% VG, it has improved about 80%, yet there wasn't any improvement, only worsening of it, until 48 hours ago.

It hasn't yet healed 100% and it could also be a coincidence but I am now wondering if it wasn't either created, or inflamed by the VG.

 

[BigEgo]

Don't remember if I have posted in this thread yet or not, but OP's symptoms sound to me like classic anxiety (maybe even panic disorder). I know, I went through it. Went to the ER a half dozen times and had every test known to man done on me. All of it came back totally normal. I felt like my chest was closing, like I couldn't breathe, and like my heart was going to explode. It was all anxiety.

The good news is that SSRI's can help a lot.

 

[AndriaD]

Actually with those like us who are intolerant of VG, the inability to breathe is what causes the anxiety... not vice-versa.

Andria

 

[Gazoo2You]

It was from reading the OP's symptoms, that I was able to track down the source of my problem with the throat and I have never had anxiety issues. Had I, I might question it but I was so unanxious, I lived with it for about 3 months figuring it would go away
I only became anxious as I grasped how stupid I had been not to think of vaping as the route to solving it sooner...lol
Seriously though, I had read about PG intolerance and that did not ring familiar to me until I read this thread.

I am new to this discovery so I can't speak for anyone else, but from what little I know from it myself, I would have to disagree that this is caused by anthing other than an intolerance to VG. It might be further aggravated by higher temps, or perhaps some sub-ohming, I might guess but no, I have to disagree that this is created by anxiety.

 

[Gazoo2You]

Don't remember if I have posted in this thread yet or not, but OP's symptoms sound to me like classic anxiety (maybe even panic disorder). I know, I went through it. Went to the ER a half dozen times and had every test known to man done on me. All of it came back totally normal. I felt like my chest was closing, like I couldn't breathe, and like my heart was going to explode. It was all anxiety.

The good news is that SSRI's can help a lot.

I worked with a woman once that suffered from panic disorders. Pretty scary stuff. I was helpless having watched her twice suffer from it. No, this isn't even close. I wouldn't wish that upon anyone! The best I can describe is having a huge ball of phlegm on your throat and no matter what you do, it will not move. So much so that it feels as if your throat has lost up to 1/2 of the normal space there. Never panicked though. Figured it would go away but when it didn't, I spent about 10 days going through medical tests to see what it was. When that failed, it was only then I began to do a google search and up came PG intolerance and then through here i saw BluJess's thread. I am surprised there aren't more threads about this.