So, I'm at the point where my basic kit needs to upgraded

[RiverNut]

Here's my .02. I was I the same position as you not too long ago. I had a standard ego style (riva) 1100mah battery and I just wanted a step up without having to go all in on a provari. I got the twist and fell in love.
I found it to be a really good intro to VV without the big price tag. Needless to say 3 weeks later I did get the provari anyway.

As far as size goes the twist is considerably longer than a standard ego battery, and even longer than a provari actually.
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I would stay away from the twist for this reason

 

[RiverNut]

Caridwen
No, cartos are nasty. We're talking about the Vivi Nova

 

[cubanjinx]

I would stay away from the twist for this reason

Keep in mind that's the 1100. They've a 650 and 900 as well. For the price point and function its an awesome addition to a collection.

 

[Dana A]

OK guys, You are talking about the Vivi Nova and I just read about how clearo's often need some simple things done to them to function great. With the vivi nova what are those special things? I have wanted to try one but am still a newb and don't want to buy it and end up throwing it in the garbage because I don't know what these simple steps to perfection are.

 

[RiverNut]

You have a good point. The 650 is a decent size

 

[RiverNut]

OK guys, You are talking about the Vivi Nova and I just read about how clearo's often need some simple things done to them to function great. With the vivi nova what are those special things? I have wanted to try one but am still a newb and don't want to buy it and end up throwing it in the garbage because I don't know what these simple steps to perfection are.

There are no special things you have to do with the Vivi Nova...that's part of what makes them so awesome. The other plus is they are EASY to refill and they have an all day capacity ( unless you're a fiend ). I've tried several Ce2 type attys and tanks and these are seriously fantastic. And the heads are easily cleaned when they get gummed up or just swap for a new one

 

[Caridwen]

Caridwen
No, cartos are nasty. We're talking about the Vivi Nova

I see. I've never tried the vivi Nova. I've tried clearo's ages ago and wasn't a huge fan. Didn't hate them but didn't order more. I use cartos or attys, but I mostly use a liquid feed mod. They don't work for everyone, but they work for me. If I used a different pv, it might be a different story. I was trying to figure out what the OP's issue was.

 

[RiverNut]

I see. I've never tried the vivi Nova. I've tried clearo's ages ago and wasn't a huge fan. Didn't hate them but didn't order more. I use cartos or attys, but I mostly use a liquid feed mod. They don't work for everyone, but they work for me. If I used a different pv, it might be a different story. I was trying to figure out what the OP's issue was.

Read Sailormans posts...clearos have come a LONG way...cartos are still cartos... Filled with poly

 

[Dana A]

I usually vape a 3 ohm carto at 5 volts. Will I get as good a throat hit with the Vivi nova? I just gotta have my TH. I have heard others say that the vivi cannot handle higher voltage without tasting burnt. Is that true? If it makes any difference I vape 20mg 70/30 PG/VG.

 

[RiverNut]

I usually vape a 3 ohm carto at 5 volts. Will I get as good a throat hit with the Vivi nova? I just gotta have my TH. I have heard others say that the vivi cannot handle higher voltage without tasting burnt. Is that true? If it makes any difference I vape 20mg 70/30 PG/VG.

It does make a difference. Most of your throat hit comes from PG. have you ever tried 100% VG = no throat hit.
I'm vaping my Vivi at 5.0 volts. The head is marked as 2.4 ohms but measures on my Provari as 3.0 ohms. I have never and I mean never had a burnt taste from a ce2. I think some people might mistake it for a dry hit...IDK

 

[sailorman]

Sailorman, I respect you alot.

I took your adivce and bought some clearos and they were horrible. You yourself helped me troubleshoot them. I think we need to begin to support reliable suppliers so new people aren't discouraged and waste hard earned money. You are not to blame. I am still seeking good quality clearos and madvapes is out of stock. Any other reputable sites you can recommend?

Hoosierecigsupply.com had some last night. Surevapes.com might still have some.
Gotvapes should have the V2.5s. I prefer the longer wicks, but it isn't a huge deal.
Sorry about the fluxos. You're the only bad experience with them, so far.

 

[sailorman]

OK guys, You are talking about the Vivi Nova and I just read about how clearo's often need some simple things done to them to function great. With the vivi nova what are those special things? I have wanted to try one but am still a newb and don't want to buy it and end up throwing it in the garbage because I don't know what these simple steps to perfection are.

Nothing. The Vivi Nova is good right out of the box. You might want to wash/rinse it out first, but it really doesn't need any tweaking. I prefer short wicks, so if you get the long wicks and think the flavor is flat, you can trim them if you want. But wait until you've vaped a tank or two through them first. They have a little break-in time.

 

[RiverNut]

Hoosierecigsupply.com had some last night. Surevapes.com might still have some.
Gotvapes should have the V2.5s. I prefer the longer wicks, but it isn't a huge deal.
Sorry about the fluxos. You're the only bad experience with them, so far.

Honestly I didn't care for the fluxos either. The cup cap was hell to get off and the flavor was muted. I started with clearos from Volcano ecigs and was pretty happy with those except for the thin tube

 

[RiverNut]

Nothing. The Vivi Nova is good right out of the box. You might want to wash/rinse it out first, but it really doesn't need any tweaking. I prefer short wicks, so if you get the long wicks and think the flavor is flat, you can trim them if you want. But wait until you've vaped a tank or two through them first. They have a little break-in time.

What does shortening the wick do for you? I would think it would wick less

 

[Iusedtoanalog]

So Joseph, just to clarify a burning question you have posed this entire evening. No you dont Have to Have infinately adjustable voltage to get out of those tank atomizers you are so willing to part with.

If you decide to go with a Carto then it would behove You to try a lower ohm version like the 1.7ohm resurectors or 2 ohm boges and while you are at it pick up a 2.5 ohm and a 3ohm version as well, all single coil for your eGo. Now four plus boxes of cartos later you will have found yourself a better vape than the eGo c that currently sits atop your device BUT, now you will almost certainly have at least two thidrs of those cartos left over that are ho-hum and still have this what about the other thing that is going on over here....... happening.

If that seems like alot of work , well it would be. But you would know at this point if you even liked cartos enough to invest in a tank to feed them. Four boxes of cartos would be somwhere around twenty or thirty bucks, plus or minus shipping. Chances are you have to get them frome more than one place also so thats kind of a pain also. Looking at it a little differently may be the better remedy.

The Vivi Nova seems to be a complete solution for those of us who want to try something different without forking out a good chunk of our own time and effort to locate and purchase a whole bunch of gear we may or may not like. They include three coil heads that will allow the tank to be run as we see fit, for our given tastes and power on hand. The othe part of our wattage equation is resistance. Various resistances allows you to vape at different wattage output from the same voltage applied. The Vivi Nova allows the user at minimum the ability to change the coil simply and affordably while keeping the rest of the device in tact and useable for the next variant.

At any rate no matter which way you decide to go it will be your way, and it will almost certainly be better overall than the eGo c tanks that you are using now. Spending too much time deciding still will not answer any questions, pull the trigger on something. That will be the only way you are going to find what is your next step. Good Luck. Happy Vaping.

 

[sailorman]

You have a good point. The 650 is a decent size

Yeah, but the 650mah Twist is the same size as an 1100kGo and you'll get about 3-3.5 hours of vaping time. The 1000mah will give you about 8 hours, but it's bigger than a Lavatube with a 2000mah battery.

If you already have a full time vape and want to dip your toe into VV, it's o.k.. If you don't have another PV, you need two Twists and that's not a good deal in the age of $50 Lavatubes and Ovales and $70 i-Tastes with passthroughs.

 

[RiverNut]

Yeah, but the 650mah Twist is the same size as an 1100kGo and you'll get about 3-3.5 hours of vaping time. The 1000mah will give you about 8 hours, but it's bigger than a Lavatube with a 2000mah battery.

If you already have a full time vape and want to dip your toe into VV, it's o.k.. If you don't have another PV, you need two Twists and that's not a good deal in the age of $50 Lavatubes and Ovales and $70 i-Tastes with passthroughs.

LOL...ok you have a better point

 

[sailorman]

What does shortening the wick do for you? I would think it would wick less

That's what I thought. I was skeptical. But the short wick acts faster to wick the juice and I found it tastes better than the long wicks. I have both versions and there's a difference. Not huge, but noticeable.

There are all kinds of theories about why this is the case and I'm not the first or only one to have observed it.

 

[sailorman]

Honestly I didn't care for the fluxos either. The cup cap was hell to get off and the flavor was muted. I started with clearos from Volcano ecigs and was pretty happy with those except for the thin tube

Here's the trick to fluxos. Don't mess with the cup cap until you've removed the tube. Put the cap back on before you re-assemble the tube back on it.

And the flavor thing improves if you trim the wicks down. Again, it's the "short wick tastes better" phenomenon. I think some of the flavoring is trapped in the wick and the thinner PG is filtered and moved to the coil, leaving the flavorings behind. This might also explain why the juice doesn't turn dark in the tank with the short wick. Just a theory.

 

[RiverNut]

That's what I thought. I was skeptical. But the short wick acts faster to wick the juice and I found it tastes better than the long wicks. I have both versions and there's a difference. Not huge, but noticeable.

There are all kinds of theories about why this is the case and I'm not the first or only one to have observed it.

Interesting, I'll definitely try it. Especially coming from you.
You obviously have tons of knowledge about all this stuff ( just a few post since 2010 ) . It's mighty kind of you to share your wisdom. Thanks! Time for sleep. OAO