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ok, we're all sad that all this crap happened.. sturm was wronged, raidy was wronged, we were all wronged.. now shaddup and get over it.
wow thats kinda harsh man. You can go ahead and 'get over it' if you wish but the rest of us would like to continue our free exchange of ideas and information.
would it really be such a big deal to undo this? would it be that hard to undelete a thread?
and even if that happened... well the damage is already done. And the way it was handled my change how a lot of people see ecf and their actions around here.
I know I will be thinking twice now before posting anything I come up with...
would it really be such a big deal to undo this? would it be that hard to undelete a thread?
and even if that happened... well the damage is already done. And the way it was handled my change how a lot of people see ecf and their actions around here.
I know I will be thinking twice now before posting anything I come up with...
Wouldn't you be mad if you put almost $100 in on a Co-Op and then all of a sudden the person running the Co-Op was blocked and the whole thread was deleted without warning? Especially if there was an extremely similar thread in the same place that is still active. I'm just saying, put yourself in our shoes. What was the point of your post anyways?
It wouldn't be the internet if there wasn't complaining about complaining.....
And random video to try to guess the meaning of....
And random video to try to guess the meaning of....
yes, I am.. and while I understand that you folks are concerned with money, it should be dealt with in private, not in public. that's my biggest thing, you are all airing your issues publicly. deal with them in private. with a mod, or with oooSturm or whatever.. and I'm not trying to be an ..., I just am. j/k.
Hopefully it didn't offend or anything, that wasn't my intent. just playing around.
Anyway, for me it isn't a money issue. I think it goes more to transparency and consistency in the community. If this is a place to go to discuss mods and help make the ecig better, then we need to be able to discuss it openly and not hide the issues. My money concerns are much further down the list than the random ban hammer that seems to come without justification for one party, while others can and have done the same with no or minor consequences. It just doesn't inspire confidence.
I respect your opinion, but i think my motivations are different than what you see as the prime motivator. hopefully that makes sense
Anyway, for me it isn't a money issue. I think it goes more to transparency and consistency in the community. If this is a place to go to discuss mods and help make the ecig better, then we need to be able to discuss it openly and not hide the issues. My money concerns are much further down the list than the random ban hammer that seems to come without justification for one party, while others can and have done the same with no or minor consequences. It just doesn't inspire confidence.
I respect your opinion, but i think my motivations are different than what you see as the prime motivator. hopefully that makes sense
its not about the money. sturm will come through.
@rat nothing special but and idea or 2 maybe that i haven't seen anywhere but perhaps thats all i should say...
if it gets out i made something for a friend then or crap i am a manufacturer ...
or if i gave one i made to another friend oh crap now im a supplier...
idk im tired need to go to bed now lol
@rat nothing special but and idea or 2 maybe that i haven't seen anywhere but perhaps thats all i should say...
if it gets out i made something for a friend then or crap i am a manufacturer ...
or if i gave one i made to another friend oh crap now im a supplier...
idk im tired need to go to bed now lol
Hi Guys, just read the thread, All I can say is its happened and its ECFs loss, things will continue on another forum, you just have to be patient, a bit like me waiting for my Iatty to arrive 
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