So what's the deal provarmy? (provari hype?)

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Elizabeth Baldwin

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I've had my vamo since november, and it doesn't have a scratch. It's because I treat it like I do my other electrical devices (like my cell-phone), not like a night-stick.

Assuming you are a gorilla on testosterone, you could buy 7 vamos before a provari, so judging how long this ones lasted me, I could keep breaking vamos for 3 years and still save money from buying a provari.

**again not that 200 is a big deal to me, I spend that much on gas monthly, with almost no hurt to the wallet, but it's just not a bargain to me. I'll use my stingray again; I can vape anything under the sun with it at the moment, it is has better build quality than the provari, it's not boring looking, and STILL costs less. A rare not-in-production mod less expensive than a production line mod.

Well you are lucky then. My husband has went thru his share of Vamos. So have a few others I know. But you are a minority in that!

My husband gave up on Vamos. He calls them disposable garbage.
 

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Alot of Money!?



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lol that's good. I should have said you can save a relatively larger sum of money. THIS GUY OVER HERE THAT DOESN'T THINK THE PROVARI IS PERFECT HAS BAD GRAMMAR EVERYBODY! That is to the utmost degree of immaturity. I guess I'm not using those ENGL300 classes to their full extent, am I?
 

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I usually stay out of these threads because there's not much for me to say. It doesn't matter to me if you like vaping on a stove pipe if it's working for you, that's great. 99% of us are vaping to stay off analogs, this is the only common goal. Let's be supportive to others rather than make comparisons and put up threads like this that you already know is going to rile people up.
 

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I usually stay out of these threads because there's not much for me to say. It doesn't matter to me if you like vaping on a stove pipe if it's working for you, that's great. 99% of us are vaping to stay off analogs, this is the only common goal. Let's be supportive to others rather than make comparisons and put up threads like this that you already know is going to rile people up.

I totally agree. Who cares why you or I like what we use to deliver our Vape? No point in starting a Vape war!
 

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Lighten up, slick, I was just having a bit of fun. You might be taking yourself a bit too seriously. There's certainly no need to shout.

I might be immature...what of it? I never want to act my age.

I never said the ProVari was perfect. I never said anything about it at all, actually. Relax, and have a vape.



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You start a thread titled "So what's the deal, Prov-army?". You threw in the "status" word. You shouldn't have been surprised that owners loyal to the Provari wouldn't come running to give their testomonials on why they love them. I detected some manipulation and some passive-aggressive influences on your part to stir the pot.

Just because you couldn't experience a better vape from your Provari compared to a Vamo (of all things) doesn't mean others don't. And it has absolutely nothing to do about any statis symbol. My Provari's have me spoiled to the point that I dislike vaping on anything else. Many others feel the same way. The difference in the way the Provari uses pulse modulation is quite noticeable to me. Chips which use 33.3 Hz vape too hot for me and that's unpleasant. Merely turning down the voltage doesn't help much. I'm not the only one:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/488840-rattlesnake-effect-why-cheapo-vv-exception-itaste-mvp-dont-vape-same-provari-dna20d.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provari/381232-provari-oscope-vs-vamo.html

How someone can compare the build quality of a Vamo to a Provari is beyond my comprehension. Lets see how well you like your Vamo 6 months from now after the connector threads loosen or strip out. Or the fire button dysfunctions. Although not likely to happen with a Provari, at least you can get one fixed. With the Vamo, it becomes an expensive paper weight.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/547663-vamo-bit-dust-dangit.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/547769-vamo-problem.html

Sincerely, I'm happy that you have found a better vape for YOU. But to start a thread like this one got exactly the responses that I knew it would.
Somehow I knew the provari fans would flip out too, which is just weird to me, dang you guys like your vari's. I could use the mature argument every provary cult member has been using this whole time, "I bet those posters have never owned a Vamo, they're just jealous, and they don't like to admit that the Vamo is a better deal if you don't drop it constantly."

-I'll admit, buying a Vamo is like buying Ties from Wal-Mart, and buying a provari is like buying Ties from gucci. They both clothe you the same (I won't lie and say the provari was better than the vamo, because the vape quality is indistinguishable to my lungs and taste-buds, and the vamo had a greater range) gucci however is better built and nicer looking, and has a warantee, which isn't important to me. Especially for a person that doesn't wear ties that often, does that help you get my situation? Everyones misunderstanding, it's HILARIOUS from my point of view, they might as well be pokemon cards at this point and I insulted your charizard. I can't believe how far you guys will go to defend the round table of provari-hood. It's like I stole your damsel, I vape to keep from going back to cigarettes.

-In other words I "vape to live" not "live to vape", so I only see what's a quality deal, not a "side" to choose. I really wish I could delete this post, I know it's gotten ridiculous but somehow I can't turn away from close-minded people.

-You all use carto-tanks solely don't you? So you don't really get where I'm coming from as someone who dips his toe in every pool.
 

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Somehow I knew the provari fans would flip out too, which is just weird to me, dang you guys like your vari's. I could use the mature argument every provary cult member has been using this whole time, "I bet those posters have never owned a Vamo, they're just jealous, and they don't like to admit that the Vamo is a better deal if you don't drop it constantly."

-I'll admit, buying a Vamo is like buying Ties from Wal-Mart, and buying a provari is like buying Ties from gucci. They both clothe you the same (I won't lie and say the provari was better than the vamo, because the vape quality is indistinguishable to my lungs and taste-buds, and the vamo had a greater range) gucci however is better built and nicer looking, and has a warantee, which isn't important to me. Especially for a person that doesn't wear ties that often, does that help you get my situation? Everyones misunderstanding, it's HILARIOUS from my point of view, they might as well be pokemon cards at this point and I insulted your charizard. I can't believe how far you guys will go to defend the round table of provari-hood. It's like I stole your damsel, I vape to keep from going back to cigarettes.

-In other words I "vape to live" not "live to vape", so I only see what's a quality deal, not a "side" to choose. I really wish I could delete this post, I know it's gotten ridiculous but somehow I can't turn away from close-minded people.

-You all use carto-tanks solely don't you? So you don't really get where I'm coming from as someone who dips his toe in every pool.

Honestly it seems you have a chip on your shoulder about it!

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lol that's good. I should have said you can save a relatively larger sum of money. THIS GUY OVER HERE THAT DOESN'T THINK THE PROVARI IS PERFECT HAS BAD GRAMMAR EVERYBODY! That is to the utmost degree of immaturity. I guess I'm not using those ENGL300 classes to their full extent, am I?

Actually I think it's a funny take on alot and a lot. I've already apologized for insinuating that you are a liar. But now you are going on a tear and making personal attacks to the very people you criticize for attacking you personally.

That is hypocrisy. In a recent post you insinuated that ProVari owners have to buy ProVari's because they don't know how to treat their equipment?

That's absurd and you know this.

The very least you can do is own up to your thread.

You start a passive aggressive thread criticizing ProVari owners. You even admit to sugar coating your post for the sake us poor ProVari owners. Then you act all shocked, on how you were victimized by ProVari owners you offended.

Then turn back and attack those same owners.

I apologize for calling you a liar. You are not a liar...... you are simply a tool......
 

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Lighten up, slick, I was just having a bit of fun. You might be taking yourself a bit too seriously. There's certainly no need to shout.

I might be immature...what of it? I never want to act my age.

I never said the ProVari was perfect. I never said anything about it at all, actually. Relax, and have a vape.



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Dude, I'm chill as a cucumber. This brings me back to when my little brother would get riled up, make me mad, and then accuse me of being riled up. I'm not mad, or actually shouting, and I may need a cigarette by the time this thread is finished.
 

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Dude, I'm chill as a cucumber. This brings me back to when my little brother would get riled up, make me mad, and then accuse me of being riled up. I'm not mad, or actually shouting, and I may need a cigarette by the time this thread is finished.

Why would you need a cig for? Vamo not cutting it? :p
 

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Dude, I'm chill as a cucumber. This brings me back to when my little brother would get riled up, make me mad, and then accuse me of being riled up. I'm not mad, or actually shouting, and I may need a cigarette by the time this thread is finished.

Are you "chill", or not?

If so, why would you be reminded of your brother getting you riled up? And why would a chill person need a cigarette?

You're not making a bit of sense, treehead. Maybe you should take a little break from posting...



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-In other words I "vape to live" not "live to vape", so I only see what's a quality deal, not a "side" to choose. I really wish I could delete this post, I know it's gotten ridiculous but somehow I can't turn away from close-minded people.

-You all use carto-tanks solely don't you? So you don't really get where I'm coming from as someone who dips his toe in every pool.
The vast majority of "Provari" threads turn into this. Guaranteed. It's like you can't help to slow down to see the unfortunate details of the accident which made you creep in line on the highway. It makes you a rubber necker. This is what makes Provari threads fun. At least for me. Most people can't help but click on the thread even though they know what's inside.

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Yeah, I love my cartotanks. So we gonna debate the virtues of cartotanks now?

I use rebuildables, too. Love my Kayfun. My genesis-style I can take or leave them (they are position dependent, so just can't take them on the road with me). I don't care for drippers, I prefer tanks, so I don't use them. I don't sub ohm, so I prefer the regulated mods over mechanicals.
 
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Actually I think it's a funny take on alot and a lot. I've already apologized for insinuating that you are a liar. But now you are going on a tear and making personal attacks to the very people you criticize for attacking you personally.

That is hypocrisy. In a recent post you insinuated that ProVari owners have to buy ProVari's because they don't know how to treat their equipment?

That's absurd and you know this.

The very least you can do is own up to your thread.

You start a passive aggressive thread criticizing ProVari owners. You even admit to sugar coating your post for the sake us poor ProVari owners. Then you act all shocked, on how you were victimized by ProVari owners you offended.

Then turn back and attack those same owners.

I apologize for calling you a liar. You are not a liar...... you are simply a tool......

I've gotten the same reaction out of everybody,

-They all think I'm being passive aggressive because they just won't believe that my opinion is genuine, and I'm telling the truth, and in return they get very defensive in a very uncool way.

-I defend myself, in a more mature manner than it was dished to me, not being a push-over though.

-They retort by basically calling me a tool. I'm the Ghandi of this thread, and I've never called someone anything close to a tool on ECF.

(I said that provari owners can't take care of their vamo's, because every single one of them bought a provari because their vamo's kept breaking over and over, is that true?)

-I am sorry though, I think I'm going to change the original post.
 

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*pulls up comfy chair* Popcorn anyone?

i don't mind if i do.

BUT!!! before i go to my corner...

for the record... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...0545-tips-comments-welcomed.html#post10996346

the vamo was my starter kit and it still works fine. though, it's ugly as sin since the finish started wiping off (not chipping) in 3 days.

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but my provari regulates and performs better... and provape is very serious about support as i'm finding out first hand. for example, they took care of this swiftly... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/527930-my-batteries-took-vaca-vacaville.html

though, i rock my Reo Grand as my go to APV. i vape 36mg/ml over 20 watts and love the smooth vape, big hits and convenience of squonking fresh juice for every hit as opposed to the hassle of full time dripping.

though, i drip part time as well.

everything i have has it's place. just so happens my vamo is retired to backups for my backups and regularly holds my lesser attys such as ego threaded BCCs and BDCs in my lineup. mostly because of the quality of the vape and ridiculously unnecessary size in 18650 mode. but also due to quality of the build and the fact i have a clumsy wife and hyper children.

though, if you look through the pics in that photobucket library, you'll see an mvp II that holds a superior status to my vamo in our collection. because it works better and smoother despite it's lower output capability... and the fact it doesn't have the inherent fatal flaws of the vamo.

FYI the vamos limits are 6 volts, 5 amps, 15 watts and a minimum of 1.5Ω.
5 amps at 15 watts = 0.6Ω ... 5 amps isn't happening on a vamo...
3.5 amps at 15 watts = 1.22Ω ... let's reconsider whether the vamo can output a noteworthy amount more power than the prothingy now. fair enough?
 
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The Provari is what it is, one of the best 15 watt capable VV mods. Once out grown, it becomes an underpowered mod that rarely gets used. But the greatest thing about the Provari is that it retains it's value and is easily sold to pay for a DNA30 mod or an Authentic JD Tech Stingray.

I wholeheartedly agree, I was probably being overly nit-picky when I sold my Provari, because there are alot of things that I just can't get with any other apv, like the non-oscillating current, Provari gives smooth flow of electricity, whereas sometimes with pg I can hear the vamo "rattlesnaking" because it's giving it's max at a certain frequency (a somewhat sloppy way to adjust the volts) to give you the desired watt/volt. And I'm ashamed to have boasted about wattage on the vamo, because I only use voltage anyway lol. That is a very good point that I hadn't really considered, the vamo is like a mercedes (sorry for the car metaphor) it holds it's value well just in case you change your mind. So really the investment is always worth it, I wish I'd held onto to it to experience it's consistency but I just couldn't wait to get a mechanical. I just became interested in building way too soon to fully enjoy it's longevity, and although the provari is one niiice quality machine, it was just limited for the use I wanted it for. This was the post I was looking for, you credited the provari while at the same time weren't biased, and made total sense to me. :toast:
 

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i don't mind if i do.

BUT!!! before i go to my corner...

for the record... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...0545-tips-comments-welcomed.html#post10996346

the vamo was my starter kit and it still works fine. though, it's ugly as sin since the finish started wiping off (not chipping) in 3 days.

100_5998_zpsdf3cf00b.jpg


but my provari regulates and performs better... and provape is very serious about support as i'm finding out first hand. for example, they took care of this swiftly... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/527930-my-batteries-took-vaca-vacaville.html

though, i rock my Reo Grand as my go to APV. i vape 36mg/ml over 20 watts and love the smooth vape, big hits and convenience of squonking fresh juice for every hit as opposed to the hassle of full time dripping.

though, i drip part time as well.

everything i have has it's place. just so happens my vamo is retired to backups for my backups and regularly holds my lesser attys such as ego threaded BCCs and BDCs in my lineup. mostly because of the quality of the vape and ridiculously unnecessary size in 18650 mode. but also due to quality of the build and the fact i have a clumsy wife and hyper children.

though, if you look through the pics in that photobucket library, you'll see an mvp II that holds a superior status to my vamo in our collection. because it works better and smoother despite it's lower output capability... and the fact it doesn't have the inherent fatal flaws of the vamo.

FYI the vamos limits are 6 volts, 5 amps, 15 watts and a minimum of 1.5Ω.
5 amps at 15 watts = 0.6Ω ... 5 amps isn't happening on a vamo...
3.5 amps at 15 watts = 1.22Ω ... let's reconsider whether the vamo can output a noteworthy amount more power than the prothingy now. fair enough?
Nice Reo! :D I don't want to carry this out because your right, the vamo doesn't output that much more, it'll just try on certain ohms where the provari won't.

My V5 goes down to 1.2ohm, I'm not sure why (probably the lack of safety features) but this is one of the loopholes I like about it. In wattage mode, it lets only lets you select 3W-15W, this is probably because below 3watts is useless, and above 15 watts would be too high of a voltage for it's max ohmage (5ohms at 15 watts would need 8 volts, 2 more than it is capable of, however it's unlikely anyone would use it for building that size of a coil, afterall it's an APV). However if you use it in voltage mode, it will pump out whatever you set it to (within the 5 amp range), until it detects an overload or short etc. So if I set it to it's max 6 volts at 1.2 ohms it will struggle but theoretically give you 30 watts (which if you do the math is spot on 5 amps). Keep in mind it can only do 30 watts on a tiny coil at 1.2 so it sounds like alot, but really it's just an average amount of apv power going into a tinier allowed coil than the provari. But if you don't believe me check out this video, where the guy uses the max watt setting (not limit) at 15, and then the 6 volt setting on a 1.2ohm coil and it glows noticably (doubly) brighter. Some may argue this is less safe, but as a mechanical mod user, I can't say anything, at least I know electrical theory and how to keep it safe.

Vamo 1.2 ohms 15&30 watts - YouTube

again I don't want to seem nasty, this is all just the truth. (I did do some research, and on fasttech it says the ohm limit is 1.5 too, I'm not sure why but I got mine from FT and it fires at 1.2 but no lower. Here's proof from the busardo, I skipped through all the non-important stuff.

A PBusardo Review - The VAMO V5 - YouTube

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