Solid Brass connector for AVS ???
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we dont dilute the PG so we dont need the additive cape. If I read well thats the meaning of this.
By your post you mean that I made those adapters in purpose bass? Lol buddy, that was not very good of yours. Our liquid have anticorrosive properties and you have to know that.
If PG has corrosive properties then we will die much more sooner than smoking analogs.
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Not everyone vapes PG, I use VG with 15% water, some people add alcohol to their liquids.
I have my doubts that brass would present any kind of hazard in contact with e-liquids, but I'll have to do some research before I make an informed opinion.
I have my doubts that brass would present any kind of hazard in contact with e-liquids, but I'll have to do some research before I make an informed opinion.
Tyke, PG is used as a base for its anticorrosive properties, so diluted or not deluted is the key to protect metals. If we dont understand this then we have to through out of window all our cigs that have brass connectors and all atomizers because they touch liquid all the time.
I think that this thread went too far without a real reason, thats my opinion.
I think that this thread went too far without a real reason, thats my opinion.
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I want to say this : All of you (as me) want to know the risks while using brass inside the avs ... I personally trust imeo`s words... He is a serious manufacturer and I am sure that he is no fault with his decisions, especially when we could have a health issue with his products
I will stick with my original suggestion of a very high grade Stainless Steel as I have always wanted my tank to be made from, when polished it also shines like a mirror and looks classy.!!!
Imeo, I don't think this thread has gone far enough. I think we need to discuss this until we all feel comfortable with the end result. I've noticed a LOT of views on this thread so I can only imagine a lot of people are interesting in this topic. Why don't we take a quick poll on if there is any interest in a stainless steel AVS. I think you will be surprised by the numbers. I don't see why you would be against this as it would mean more money for you and the suppliers. If someone has a SS allergy, they don't have to buy it...just more options for the GG which is always a good thing. Thoughts?
mwa, I dont have any objection to make it like this but I cant hear people saying that we are in danger, that is crazy. I always search before I make anything for GG and I said why we are not in danger. If we think like this then e-smoking is extremely dangerous with all those metals we use and we touch them all the time with out hands, connectors are dangerous, steel is dangerous because it rusts too but slower and it contains iron, carbon, chromium, nickel, niobium, molybdenum, and titanium, atomizer connectors are dangerous because they are made from brass or zama, nickel and chromium are dangerous (if you search google about chromium you will shudder but coil inside atomizers is made from nickel-chromium alloy, rope is dangerous because its made from silica, PG is dangerous if it is inhaled, etc. Aspirin is also very dangerous (read the description about aspirine).
Its true that we try to avoid anything that hurt us, thats why we vape and we dont smoke. As for brass my final conclution is that brass is antimicrobial and its totally safe inside liquid. I dont say that we can lick it as we cant lick aluminium, steel, nickel, chromium etc, but I say that its more than ok where we use it.
Its true that we try to avoid anything that hurt us, thats why we vape and we dont smoke. As for brass my final conclution is that brass is antimicrobial and its totally safe inside liquid. I dont say that we can lick it as we cant lick aluminium, steel, nickel, chromium etc, but I say that its more than ok where we use it.
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I dont disagree with you Zai, I say that there is no fear of what we use until now. If you and other people want a steel AVS you will have it, I will do it, no problem with me buddy.
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Imeo, there's no PG in the liquids I use as I'm somewhat allergic to PG and notice if there's any in what I vape. I mix my own e-liquids. The point I was making is that you can't assume that PG will be protective as not everyone uses it.
My initial thoughts are PG or not brass is probably absolutely fine, but I won't cast an opinion until I've had a chance to do some research and put some thought into the possible chemical interactions. Brass is a stable alloy of copper and zinc and like many alloys the base metals are a bit toxic on their own.
If we were searching for an absolutely 100% safe metal for connectors and tanks then the best choices would be high carat gold (chemically inert, excellent conductor of electricity, but hopeless for structural functions), platinum, rhodium or at a push sterling silver, but they're a tad more expensive than brass
My initial thoughts are PG or not brass is probably absolutely fine, but I won't cast an opinion until I've had a chance to do some research and put some thought into the possible chemical interactions. Brass is a stable alloy of copper and zinc and like many alloys the base metals are a bit toxic on their own.
If we were searching for an absolutely 100% safe metal for connectors and tanks then the best choices would be high carat gold (chemically inert, excellent conductor of electricity, but hopeless for structural functions), platinum, rhodium or at a push sterling silver, but they're a tad more expensive than brass
Now we agree Tyke. Also steel that some friends here think its ok because it rusts not so quick is an alloy of 5-6 elements together. Its stable too but rust is not the only reason that we will be based on to accept or reject a metal. I dont say that steel is dangerous but its not better than brass.
Its very easy for me to nickel plate the connectors. I will do it if many people ask for it but there is no reason to do it.!
ok, I will let this thread go on. I will check if I can add a pole to this thread for nickel-plated connectors and brass ones.
Its very easy for me to nickel plate the connectors. I will do it if many people ask for it but there is no reason to do it.!
ok, I will let this thread go on. I will check if I can add a pole to this thread for nickel-plated connectors and brass ones.
I am also on board with mwa.... I prefer Stainless Steel to all other metals...All tho for eletric contacts it is not the best, it still is a great metal to use for a ecig.....Not to mention other mod companys have started using stainless steel for even the contact points...with no problems...
Aluminum is great too...but I still like Stainless Steel...
Stainless Steel holds up real nice too....I would have to say it holds up better then Aluminum..... Specially if you vape at work, and you work with your hands and there dirty often.... Stainless Steel would be the better choice... Less cleaning also compared to Aluminium witch needs to be cleaned often...
-Tim
Aluminum is great too...but I still like Stainless Steel...
Stainless Steel holds up real nice too....I would have to say it holds up better then Aluminum..... Specially if you vape at work, and you work with your hands and there dirty often.... Stainless Steel would be the better choice... Less cleaning also compared to Aluminium witch needs to be cleaned often...
-Tim
I have to totally agree with mwa on this one!!! I won't even cook with anything less and would like not to have to vape with anything less either, no matter the price! It is a medically proven fact that aluminum contributes to Alzheimer's Disease and Dementia. They know this by autopsy and dissection of the brains in deceased Alzheimer's & Dementia patients where aluminum deposits are actually found... I've seen and examined the crosscut sections with my own eyes. Gross and very scary!
Also nickel is toxic as well and espeially when heated up. Heat or no heat, many people are highly sensitive to Nickel. No offense, just my
... I am also a 100% VG user...
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The site that you linked to says that they had to add something to the PG to make it anti-corrosive. Their mixture has 3.6% of some additive which provides the anti-corrosive properties.
From the link you gave: "The inhibitor is blended in at 3.6%, " so it's 96.4% PG after the special anti-corrosive mix is added.
According to the information you provided, without this special additive the PG will corrode brass... That is, PG without special additives will corrode brass. That's why they add 3.6% of this other substance which provides the anti-corrosive properties.
Capecodjim,
You are correct 100 % and the Highest grade of Stainless steel would still be my choice for my tank all the way
You are correct 100 % and the Highest grade of Stainless steel would still be my choice for my tank all the way
Once again, I totally agree!!! I HAVE to vape VG only...
Any studies in this using all VG with brass?
People lets not forget here that everything we all have been vaping with all of this time has been corrosive and oxidizes, that's every Atty and carto you have ever used !!! So lets not get on Imeo here that much over this, I'm not electing to try to side with him over the Brass,Nickle, and Aluminum, but he has used a high grade Airplane Aluminum to make many of his product which is better then most of the stuff we have vaped from on a daily basis, I'm just saying lets work together on this and if a high grade Stainless Steel is the conclusion I'm more then positive Imeo will make us all happy and provide us with the up most safest product he can if it turns out to be Stainles steel then stainless steel is what we just might get here. I also think this is why part of this thread had developed and everyone is involved because the man wanted input. Now lets find out what the highest grade and safest grade metal would be and hope its not as costly as "Gold", as I've always wanted my Gold "GGTS", HAHAH...I think someone listed some of the different grades of stainless steel on a previous page. Heck how about we find out if someone could also start making us stainless steel Atty's too while were at it, now that would be a great combination in my opinion a stainless steel tank and a matching Atty, how much safer of a vape could we get with that combo.???
I also have faith in Imeo, his judgement, health considerations and always doing the best that he can for his customers and everyone in general! Thank YOU, Imeo!!!
I wan't the stainless steel attys too...
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