Some facts on 100mg Nicotine

[Dougiestyle]

For 40-60mg being lethal, you would have to allow .4-.6ml of 100mg/mL nic juice to seep into your skin. If 30=1mL, then you'd have to have 13-18 drops sit, seep and dry on your skin. For those that vaped 100mg/mL nic juice, I'm sure they didn't vape a whole mL within a short time, as I am a heavyier vaper, and I got through 3-5mL/day. You have to realize the amount of juice your vaporizing at a single puff. 100mg/mL nic juice can be dangerous, but if you spill a couple drops on you and wash it off immediately, there's nothing to worry about. If you spill a full mL of 100mg juice on you and allow it to sit for any amount of time longer than 5mins, well, IMO you were st00pid and probably deserve the ill side effects. Be careful with dangerous chemicals, but let's not get all too paranoid, people. I never use gloves when mixing, because my skin never touches the liquid. The syringe is all that I use to measure with. If, by chance, I accidentally spill some on my skin (hasn't happened *knocks on wood), i would wash off immediately, but I certainly wouldn't freak-out over anything more than the wasted juice lol.

 

[wood]

dont knock on me lol

 

[cactusgirl]

Then how many mg of nic are in one drop? I hated math in school lol.

Assuming that there are 20 drops per ml, there would be 5mg per drop.

 

[Concat]

There's about 20 drops in one mL. Probably a bit less, but say 20 for easy math. For 24 mg/mL liquid, the math is 24/20 = 1.2 mg, comparable to an avergae cigarette. However, remember you're not absorbing all of that nic when vaping. There's no known figures, but the absorption rate is not 100%. This would also explain why vaping 100 mg/mL isn't as dangerous as one might think. A quick inhale and release... maybe you only absorbed 50% of what was in the vapor.

And even if you vaped 2 drops of 100mg/ml (say you were dripping), there's only (2 drops)*(1/20 ml/drop)*(100mg/ml) = 10 mg in those 2 drops - far from the 40-60mg lethal dose. Add to the fact that not all the nic is absorbed and you can see why you wouldn't die from it. You'd probably get a killer buzz though, and possibly feel sick, especially if you did more than just 2 drops.

Probably surprised a few of you there. See, it's not plutonium.

 

[IanK1968]

Concat, after seeing all the data and hearing about people actually vaping 100mg (by accident) I didnt think 100mg nic was plutonium mixed with nuclear waste lol. 100mg is definitely not for the klutzy DIY'ers who refuse to wash after a spillage.

 

[wood]

im agreeing more and more , i got a sample from someone here and it was 36mg and i vaped a few drops then very obviously could tell that it was to high in strength , i got dizzy had a headace and this was from a few drops i think if you were vaping it you would know and quit vaping it long before you were to od , the only thing i would worry about is kids and pets coming in contact with the liquid but i dont have kids and my dog doesnt have keys to the garage so i am alot less paranoid with the 100mg than i was say a few days ago , and while in the wrong hands it could be used as a weapon , so could a fork , after days of pondering i am definately going to get some 100mg nic its just so much cheaper and i plan to cut it in half twice as soon as i get it so i will have 25mg nic in a large quantity ,then i just have to add vg and flav ,
hmmm what mg of pg is easiest to cut to a 70/30 pg/vg ratio when mixing

 

[IanK1968]

Do you have the e-juice me up calculator Wood?

 

[wood]

no i havent looked for a calc yet
i have no diy tools flavour or juice
or vg gotta get it all

 

[IanK1968]

ahhh ok. Well 100mg nic to 18mg with 1 flavour using pg nic and pg flavouring @ 20% flavour to make 30ml this is what it would look like.

5.4ml nic
9.6ml PG
9ml VG
6ml flavour

 

[mwa102464]

im agreeing more and more , i got a sample from someone here and it was 36mg and i vaped a few drops then very obviously could tell that it was to high in strength , i got dizzy had a headace and this was from a few drops i think if you were vaping it you would know and quit vaping it long before you were to od , the only thing i would worry about is kids and pets coming in contact with the liquid but i dont have kids and my dog doesnt have keys to the garage so i am alot less paranoid with the 100mg than i was say a few days ago , and while in the wrong hands it could be used as a weapon , so could a fork , after days of pondering i am definately going to get some 100mg nic its just so much cheaper and i plan to cut it in half twice as soon as i get it so i will have 25mg nic in a large quantity ,then i just have to add vg and flav ,
hmmm what mg of pg is easiest to cut to a 70/30 pg/vg ratio when mixing

You may want to keep it in 100mg and just cut a little bit at a time. don't let to much oxygen get into your bottle, pour out what you need and cap it quickly, it is also nice to use the 100mg with mixing, it takes less and you can add more flavoring to your mixes, just some thing I do that's all and for good reason.

 

[Can_supplier]

Gotchya. There was those 2 people that vaped 100mg by accident and lived to tell the tale.

That there are people that (sorry can't think of a polite word) stupid to do that is proof that the stuff shouldn't be around and it WILL find its way into the hands of fools. How do you even do that? Never mind, I don't want to know.

Just because someone was LUCKY enough to live to tell about something, doesn't mean it is a good idea to follow in their footsteps. To follow that logic would mean we would all be out doing insane amount of drugs with Charlie Sheen, he lived so drugs must be safe won't kill anyone.

 

[wood]

well the problem is unless we get the strong stuff were paying upwards of 20$ for 30 ml of 36mg nic
and the only way to get a little savings it to buy a liter which is a ridiculous amount to be purchasing and still over 100$
i really cant seem to argue with 30$ for 120ml 100mg nic
and what makes our suppliers who mix down the 100mg nic any more capable than me or you
its not like suppliers go to school for mixing the juice they sell or are chemists they are people like me or you whol have found they can mix the flavor well and are making the stuff for pennies and selling it for 25$ for a premix 30 ml
with that kinda money i can start my own e juice business and break even just selling a few bottles of premix

 

[IanK1968]

That there are people that (sorry can't think of a polite word) stupid to do that is proof that the stuff shouldn't be around and it WILL find its way into the hands of fools. How do you even do that? Never mind, I don't want to know.

Just because someone was LUCKY enough to live to tell about something, doesn't mean it is a good idea to follow in their footsteps. To follow that logic would mean we would all be out doing insane amount of drugs with Charlie Sheen, he lived so drugs must be safe won't kill anyone.

Well im not telling people go out and vape 100mg juice nor am I saying its a good idea geeze lol. If we did the same amount of drugs as Charlie we would all be winning and drinking Tigers Blood, and maybe have our own hit TV show.

Your logic to my statement is off. I was just pointing out people have done it. I know you are totally against 100mg nic and I can appreciate that, and understand it too, but there will always be 100mg mixers and there is nothing you can do to stop it. To insinuate my logic is its a good idea to vape 100mg is absurd.

 

[AllYourBase]

Ah, this again...

I was reading through some older threads on this subject, and Can_Supplier has been arguing this same point about 100mg stuff being insta-deadly for a LONG time on these forums. Last year it was him arguing with some of the older members like Nuck, and now it's him arguing with us. This is not the first time he's been accused of fear mongering, and it won't be the last.

Plain and simple, if you buy DIY from Canadian suppliers, you are being ripped off. I personally checked at over 50 of the suppliers the forum's main page, and as far as I can tell, Canadian suppliers are charging far more for 30ml 36mg DIY juice than anywhere else on the planet. Charging more than anyone else on Earth = Greed.

 

[AlbertaClipper]

Well, they have to concern themselves with losing some shipments worth $$$$ so the risk is the reason. I don't hold it against them, particularly since it's still so much cheaper than smoking.

 

[IanK1968]

even if vaping was more then smoking I would still vape. Seeing my kids grow up, get married and have kids of their own is far more important then trying to save a couple bucks.

 

[AllYourBase]

Well, they have to concern themselves with losing some shipments worth $$$$ so the risk is the reason. I don't hold it against them, particularly since it's still so much cheaper than smoking.

If risk of lost shipments was the reason for the high prices, it would be the same everywhere. It's not. Plus, that's not even a factor to Canadian suppliers - Canada Post doesn't open mail sent within Canada, so no orders are lost, ever, from these guys.

There's no excuse for charging these prices other than 'because we can and you'll still pay for it'.

 

[NoizMaker]

The amount that you can get on your skin before it is potentially fatal varies not only by the size of the drop but the size of the person, their sensitivity to nicotine and the area effected.

Nicotine is used as a pesticide and it is well known for doing a great job at it. When the LD 50 was tested for nicotine, all but 5 rats died out of 50.

 

[IanK1968]

Hey Noiz nice to see your still alive lol. Maybe the next time I have mice I will use nicotine, its cheaper then glue boards lol.

 

[smokum]

Works great for my ant hills !!