I have seen various posts where someone mentions they had vaped at 10 watts or more.isn't this considered to be in the red zone,where it may damage or burn out coils??
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My chart says it is, but with a3.2 ohm head in my vivi, I've gone up to twelve Watts with no problems other than i can't see in front of me because of all the vapor (;
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I vape at, and have vaped at 9.0 - 10.8 watts for a year now. Haven't had any problems! Cartos lasted me 3-4 days back when I vaped at fixed volts of 3.7, and with VV @ the aforementioned watts cartos still last 3-4 days. And yep, I vape the same Boge LR 2.0 cartos now that I did back in my fixed volt vaping days! 
I agree with OP... I understand that people use higher ohmed coils at 10 watts on their kicked mods.
I'm not sure what watts I use on my kick because IDK how to tell what watts I'm at with it lol...
But I do know 1 thing... My kick works @ the setting I have it on with the 2.5ohm atty I use with it.
When I plug my 2ohm rba I have into that same mod at the same setting, it burns.
So I dont get how people say watts are set-n-forget, and I dont get how people use it like that.
I'm not sure what watts I use on my kick because IDK how to tell what watts I'm at with it lol...
But I do know 1 thing... My kick works @ the setting I have it on with the 2.5ohm atty I use with it.
When I plug my 2ohm rba I have into that same mod at the same setting, it burns.
So I dont get how people say watts are set-n-forget, and I dont get how people use it like that.
Believe it or not, lately I've been vaping at around 22 watts on my genesis atomizer. Thats with a 0.8 ohm coil and a 18350 AW IMR battery at 4.2 volts.
No issues with taste unless I'm trying to vape a dessert juice. Dessert juice doesn't seem to do well over 8-9 watts.
No issues with taste unless I'm trying to vape a dessert juice. Dessert juice doesn't seem to do well over 8-9 watts.
I vape at 8 - 10W normally, on rare occasions will go to 12 or higher. I generally use 2.5 ohm cartos or atties, nothing magical about them though they are from well regarded manufacturers.
Flavor profiles can change at higher power, as rh426 said. My vananaberry mix, really super at lower power, tastes like gack at 12+ W.
Flavor profiles can change at higher power, as rh426 said. My vananaberry mix, really super at lower power, tastes like gack at 12+ W.
That was freaking hilarious!!!!! I need one. I could just fill it up in the morning, turn it on and not worry about carrying my rig. The house would be full of vapor.
It's more so than VV, but your right, it's not exactly set and forget.
Two devices of the same resistance can behave in completely different ways and provide a completely different vape experience. I have torn apart 2ohm cartos that used a thicker coil, but 6-7 wraps, and other 2ohm cartos that used a thinner wire, but only 3 wraps. The thin wire 3 wrap coil got hotter and reached temperature faster, but the thick wire 6 wrap coil produced a higher volume of vapor. I'm assuming it has something to do with heat capacitance or something, kind of like how a mini torch lighter will actually reach a higher temperature than a camp fire, but the camp fire puts out a much higher volume of heat, albeit at a lower temperature.
The one with thicker wire and more wraps demanded more power, and soaked up more power, than the one with the thinner wire, even though they both metered out to 2.1 or so ohm. 10 watts was way too much for the thin-wire carto, but just perfect on the thicker wire carto (for me at least) And that's just cartos... bring genny devices into the mix or other types of atty design and it's impossible for the same wattage to work the same with all devices.
Back on topic,
10 watts may be too high for some devices or juice, but many people are vaping at 10 watts or more. The new wave of cheap China VW devices can go up to 15 watts, although generally they need to be in dual 18350 mode to achieve that, as their boost isn't able to extract enough power from a single 18650 (or single 18350 for that matter)
Dual coil cartos also soak up a ton of power compared to single coils. For awhile I was using dual coil cartos in my IBtank filled with Pluid, a juice that really opens up at higher powers. I would usually have to run my Zmax or Vamo in dual 18350 mode and run at around 14 watts to get a really really nice vape. If I was running that same setup with a single coil or a juice that's less happy with high power, I'd be burning juice, burning filler, or potentially popping coils.
Wattage is still a rather poor way of describing what we want it to describe. Saying "I'm vaping at 7 watts" while much more specific than "I'm vaping at 4.3 volts" still doesn't really tell you much. As someone already mentioned the same wattage setting on two different resistance devices does not always lead to the same amount of heat or vape. The example I gave at the start of my post about the thicker/thinner coils that were the same resistance shows that even with the same resistance the same wattage doesn't always mean the same thing.
Really, there isn't going to be an accurate way to describe your vape until we can somehow monitor coil temperature directly and extremely accurately. Then you could say a specific temperature you are vaping at, not what wattage, as the wattage doesn't always correlate to temperature in the vaping world.
I vape right around 10 watts with my rebuildable dripping attys. 1.8 ohms 4-4.2v depending on the juice. I use 32g Kanthal and 3-3.5mm wicks. It's about as good as it gets for me. I doubt it would work well with a pre made atty or carto, but for my setups it's about perfect.
I mainly vape fruit liquids at between 7 and 9 volts, but lately I've been falling in love with cinnamon juice, which doesn't quit no matter how high I turn it up. For that, it's 9+.
I find SS wicks will generally take a lot more than 8 or 9 watts without burning juice. Most other devices that's my typical limit.
Quite a few people do, and I do sometimes too. I swap the topper which has different ohms and the pv is set on 7 watts, for example. It adjusts the voltage to suit the ohms.
There are also times when I change it - it is variable wattage for that reason - so it can be changed. But I have seen some vapers who really do set and forget with the different ohms they use.
Okay a kick is set and forget, but it only goes up to 10 watts. Vaping a genny on a mechanical is not like vaping on a carto on a vv. I vape between 12 to 15 watts on my iHybrid. Now that being said someone else mentioned using a .8 coil on a genny with a 18350 battery, please be aware that the aw and the efest 18350 batteries are not rated for that type of stress and can be harmful to the battery.
ALL of those charts need to be updated.Even the newer ones were based off of existing charts from 2-4 years ago.Vaping has come a LONG way since those early days. Ive been lucky enough to be here for almost all of those changes so I can speak with at least SOME authority. If there were more veterans active on the forums they could verify this.
I vape at 4.2 volts on 2ohm cartos and thats considered on the high side on many of these charts....What??? Thats on the low end of acceptable given that most people average 8 watts now.
Id say it was closer to 4-6 watts back then looking at those charts.
Simple solution is to vape to taste not off of a chart.
For single coil cartos add 2 to the resistance of your atty or other device. 2ohms + 2 would be 4 volts.You can adjust up or down according to individual taste but for most people this will get you really close.
For dual coils double the resistance. 2ohm dual coil would be 2ohm x 2 = 4 +2 for 6 volts.
I cant really help you with VW devices since I dont need them. My variable wattage device is my cartomizer and it stays constant.
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NancyR: Thank you for your comment. Just for your information - AW IMR 18350 is rated for 5.8amps discharge, I'm pulling 5.2amps with a 0.8 coil @ 4.2 volts. I am safely inside the operating limits.
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