Why am I vaping at 40 -50 Watts?

[Ben Killeen]

Yes, and thank you. I seem to be the only American who vapes in celsius. It gets lonely talking TC

Well try talking to us european’s then
I’m always between 200-250’c

 

[Katya]

By the way all VG is not equal. The absolute best on the market is Organic VG from mountain rose herbs. Click Here . Other VG that I've tried taste very harsh compared to this.

It might be the best in cosmetics and body care use, but unless it's USP grade rated (and I don't see it on the bottle), it's not suitable for vaping. Only USP or BP grade VG and PG can be vaped safely. Food grade PG and VG are not pure enough for inhalation.

I can testify that the Peppermint doesn't clog attys whatsover or degrade into tar.

It's not about clogging your atties, it's about what some of the ingredients in food flavorings can do to your lungs--long-term.

Per Kurt, our chemistry guru:

My advise is to stick to water-soluble flavorings. Essential oils may be "natural", but if they are water-insoluble, other problems from inhalation can arise. Not talking about reactions to form other compounds, just talking about insoluble oils themselves...if they do not dissolve, then they cannot be easily expelled.

There is a general belief here that flavorings should be all natural, and come from natural sources, like fruit extracts or essential oils. I completely disagree with this, because inhalation is NOT eating, and simple water soluble molecules that have a good food safety record are the lowest risk. The issues with inhalation make this especially important.

 

[Katya]

Turns out that I'm vaping 12% Alcohol. My formula is simple 20% -25% Cooks Vanilla Peppermint Extract + VG and nic in VG base. I Called Cooks and they said the extract is 47.5% Alcohol. Using a ratio of 25% extract simply gives the best flavor. Any times I've tried to use less and dilute with water I haven't liked the taste.

Did you tell them that you're inhaling their food flavorings? And do not expect a flavor company to tell you what is safe...they only know what is generally safe for eating.

In all seriousness, that's still a lot of alcohol, not to mention other stuff that may be perfectly fine for cooking, but not so for inhaling repeatedly into your lungs. Vanilla and peppermint are two of the most popular flavors and there are literally dozens of formulations created especially for vaping. Why not try those instead? Go to Bull City flavors and look around.

Kurt again:

Here is the thing. We don't know a lot about long term inhalation of flavor compounds, but we know a lot more about individual compounds used in the flavor industry than we know about inhaling large biomolecules. And I cannot imagine anything good coming out of inhaling proteins, polysaccharides, bio-polymers, etc.

For vaping, give me an artificial flavor made by a conscientious flavor chemist, who is on top of inhalation studies, over an unknown soup of masticated and concentrated food stuff any day. TPA and FlavorArt are two companies that are really trying to keep us safe, rather than play into our new-age preconceptions. The flavor industry is a VERY different thing than the produce industry.

 

[United States]

Why not mix in molten hersheys cocoa? Whuttheheck? Safe to eat, right?

 

[muth]

Well try talking to us european’s then
I’m always between 200-250’c

Yay! Another 'c' person. I don't understand why American vapers are using 'F' on their mods. For crying out loud, there's twice as many numbers to scroll through! It was TC mods that taught me celsius

 

[United States]

'Cause we don't get the whole (X-32)x5/9 = celsius thing...

 

[Ben Killeen]

'Cause we don't get the whole (X-32)x5/9 = celcious thing...

But it’s simple and logical, 0’c is the point between freezing and not freezing for water.
Fahrenheit just doesn’t make sense as you have numbers all over the place.

 

[F-machine]

Ever watched porn and wondered where those 12 inches came from and you only have 6? I vape at 30w max... Any higher I cannot take... And mine is only 5 inches tall, I mean the mod...

 

[United States]

Farenheit makes perfect sense to me.

0 is ice cream temp, 32 is freezing, 212 is boiling, 425 is brownie baking temp. It's easy from there.

You guys go and complicate things by neatly dividing everything by ten. That means you can't even have quarter pound cheesburgers. Whoever heard of a 7.087381 gram cheesburger? Hell, over here you call it a 7.087381 gram cheeseburger and the state will tax it for being over 7.086 grams and say "it's for the children".

 

[Ben Killeen]

Farenheit makes perfect sense to me.

0 is ice cream temp, 32 is freezing, 212 is boiling, 425 is brownie baking temp. It's easy from there.

You guys go and complicate things by neatly dividing everything by ten. That means you can't even have quarter pound cheesburgers. Whoever heard of a 7.087381 gram cheesburger? Hell, over here you call it a 7.087381 gram cheeseburger and the state will tax it for being over 7.086 grams and say "it's for the children".

We just call it a cheese burger, as that’s what it is ;-)

 

[Katya]

But it’s simple and logical, 0’c is the point between freezing and not freezing for water.
Fahrenheit just doesn’t make sense as you have numbers all over the place.

The irony! A Brit arguing the logic and beauty of the metric system to the Americans who still use king's feet and thumbs to measure stuff.

 

[Smokey James]

Why am I vaping at 8 -12 Watts?

I just can't figure out why people Vape at 15 Watts +.

I use several different mods, all at different wattages. The wattage depends on taste and performance. Such as: my eleaf tank on my reuleaux gen3 runs 60w, while the geekvape alpha tank runs at 72w. My ancient Vaporesso Target 75 vtc runs at 22w. It depends on what your comfortable with, and what your coil/build can handle!

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[dripster]

Personally, I, prefer to vape at 120 watts or higher with reasonably big and dense, wet clouds (using high VG juice) because it enables me to get a cooler vape when the juice I'm vaping lends itself better for cooler vapes (which is very often my case) that's fulfilling due to the feel of the vape when it hits the throat and trachea, which is not the same thing as the harshness I get from upping the nic strenght whilst lowering the wattage accordingly. Anything too far below 90 watts just lacks any kind of punch so the feel is just too anemic and the flavor is also lacking full-bodiedness/depth, like a pop soda gone flat or ice cubes melted into your drink, and, I get seasick when I try to take 7-second hits so, that plus the harshness associated with low wattage vaping and the useless drama from the low wattage police are in fact the primary reasons why I didn't start vaping until only ~2 years ago.

 

[dripster]

So basically, when people suggest that low wattage vaping is "more natural" in the particular sense that it tends to provide a closer match to smoking a normal cigarette, I almost choke to death on my cloud with laughter because I shouldn't have to explain the fact that nothing can be natural about sucking on a normal cigarette for 7 whole seconds.

 

[Janusz]

I just can't figure out why people Vape at 80 Watts +.

It seems to boil down to simple age old pissing contest.

MINE IS BIGGER THAN YOURS.

 

[vapdivrr]

So basically, when people suggest that low wattage vaping is "more natural" in the particular sense that it tends to provide a closer match to smoking a normal cigarette, I almost choke to death on my cloud with laughter because I shouldn't have to explain the fact that nothing can be natural about sucking on a normal cigarette for 7 whole seconds.

I vape low wattage, mtl and my coil fires extremely fast and get a full mouthful in 2 seconds. I cant imagine drawing for 7 seconds either. Just tried vaping 7 seconds and it seems really hard to do.

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[proax9]

I find lately I change up 'what I like'.
Kayfuns with 1.0 - 1.5 ohm builds- at 5 Volts (approx 16 watts) = less clouds, reduced flavor, loooonger battery life. But still a nice vape.
Then I have squonkers and sub ohm tanks from .2 to .5 ohms- vaping at about 40 watts. More clouds and flavor, less battery life. But a good vape.
Multiple personality disorder????? Who knows.
It's nice to be able to choose my Vape Du Jour.

 

[Jebbn]

I just vape until my eyeballs start stinging and my tears are vape-able. Full up.

 

[dripster]

I vape low wattage, mtl and my coil fires extremely fast and get a full mouthful in 2 seconds. I cant imagine drawing for 7 seconds either. Just tried vaping 7 seconds and it seems really hard to do.

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Well if I breathe in naturally, it takes 2-3 seconds for me to take a normal breath. But a normal breath is a lot more air than just a full mouthful so I dunno, but... maybe a lot of people just have a much bigger mouth.

 

[vapdivrr]

Well if I breathe in naturally, it takes 2-3 seconds for me to take a normal breath. But a normal breath is a lot more air than just a full mouthful so I dunno, but... maybe a lot of people just have a much bigger mouth.

I guess my vape draw matches one respiration in time, but I'm mtl, so I dont actually respirate my vapor straight down. I just suck in , using the air I just have in my mouth I guess, but my lungs aren't breathing in at that time. Once I get a mouthful, I then use my lungs to bring it down, Either way it's like 2 seconds. I wonder if there are actually people that draw for that long, if so, they would probably get a major head rush.

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