South disposables

[Truckdriver712]

Hey everyone. I first posted on here a long time ago, when I was ready to finally quit smoking and go to vaping.

I got easily frustrated by all the coils, the liquids, the burning tongue etc as a newbie. I finally gave up trying.

But, flash forward and I was fed up with cigarettes, I had someone tell me about the disposable types that you use and throw away. No chargers, no coils, and no fluid.

I finally was able to successfully quit smoking altogether and honestly enjoy the current product that I am using. It is a South Disposable one (I'll post an image below)

But, here is the deal, these are fairly cheap and they do not last very long. One major issue I have, I am a truck driver and on the road 10 hours a day. Some of these flavors, like Virginia Tobacco and Love Story taste really good, (no fruity taste, but sweet like chewing gum) but I literally will hit this over and over. Next thing I know, I have a flashing light and it is time to throw it away.

Of course, my own doctor had to tell me that this was ten times worse than smoking, because I was doing it so much. Along with telling me that I was inhaling steel, metal and other stuff. Of course, I got the warning about popcorn lung (I did a search on this site and it seems that the study was overblown) but once a doctor tells you something like that, it gets stuck in your head and causes you to worry.

The problem is, when you start searching Google and even AI, you go down a rabbit hole with either anti-vaping pages or other pages about how it is not safe but SOMEWHAT better than smoking with vague wording that leaves you with more questions than answers.

So what is the story on this ? Does anyone have a reccomendation where I can find some objective information ? For a note, my doctor is totally anti-nicotine all the way in all forms, and not totally unbiased. When I tried nicotine gum a couple of years ago, they also said I was just giving myself mouth cancer.

Here is my go to product :

 

[AsComaDIM]

I used only disposables for about a year. I used to buy Geek Bar Pulse X, and the vape shop I buy them sometimes gave me South bars as gifts. It's been a year since I stopped using disposables, and I've also given up salt nicotine because high nicotine in them (50mg/ml) was not good on my blood pressure, going on with freebase nicotine e-liquids with pod devices for the most part.

 

[Truckdriver712]

I used only disposables for about a year. I used to buy Geek Bar Pulse X, and the vape shop I buy them sometimes gave me South bars as gifts. It's been a year since I stopped using disposables, and I've also given up salt nicotine because high nicotine in them (50mg/ml) was not good on my blood pressure, going on with freebase nicotine e-liquids with pod devices for the most part.

That is another thing, last doctor check up, I had good blood pressure and all the other vitals were good. When I happened to mention that I had quit smoking, but was vaping, they started asking all these questions.

Then they started the "Well that is worse for you than cigarettes" line. There is so much confusing info out here, I was just wondering if the stories about popcorn lungs, inhaling metal and such were true.

I was able to find some articles on here about the popcorn lung being mainly overhyped nonsense, but was trying to find additional info about the metal and steel stuff.

Like I said, my doctor is so anti-nicotine that they refuse to hear anything about it.

 

[englishmick]

Popcorn lung seems to be a nothingburger. The people who got it initially worked in a factory where they made microwave popcorn and didn't have appropriate safety systems installed, plus one guy who lived on MW popcorn for ten years. The number of cases that have occurred is tiny, and I haven't heard of even a single vaper getting it.

The cause is one chemical, which is also an ingredient in some cream flavors used in vape juice. It exists, but the folks in the popcorn factories were inhaling orders of magnitude more than you could get from vaping the stuff.

Don't know much about the metal deal. When it became an issue there was discussion here about the validity of the testing methods used. They were using equipment that ran coils for long periods at ridiculously high temperatures and managed to drive off some metal. Nothing that resembled an actual vape being used the way they are actually used.

I don't know enough to say it definitely isn't real, but I certainly haven't seen anything convincing.

What is consistently missing is any evidence of vapers actually showing symptoms that would be expected, like getting popcorn lung or metal poisoning.

Still, vaping hasn't been around for long. Maybe there are long term consequences that just haven't appeared yet. And who knows what's in the juice in disposables.

 

[Territoo]

Nobody has claimed that vaping is safe, but it is safer than smoking. The doctors are heavily influenced by Big Pharma and have heard all the manufactured stories enough that they believe them. I'm a physician (retired) and I know how the system operates. BP has to demonize vaping as it interfere with their sales of smoking cessation drugs.