spinner v. vamo

[dherrington]

I have been vaping for a few months and like a lot of petiole am a bit addicted to getting new equipment. I just bought a bison spinner but sooner whether I should have gotten a vamo variable voltage wattage instead. Are there any major advantages to the vamo. Does it give you better vaping flavor or am I just giving in to the desire for a new gadget? By the time I buy the batteries and charger I am looking at about $70. The question is is it worth it? I am hardly a veteran vaper.

Thanks.
Doug.

 

[Julopy]

im no veteran but i have purchased a lot of delivery devices just for fun. ego style stuff like vision spinner, twists etc are "nice" to start but just that. built-in battery devices performance decreases overtime, then you need to buy the whole unit again, so thats not very wallet friendly.

the vamo on the other hand is a full featured device that uses longer lasting replaceable batteries and performs like or even outperforms higher priced mods.
you can order a vamo directly from china for around $26.99 and $29.99 for stainless steel version VV650 VAMO V2 (body only) eGo APV - VaporBreak just create account and log in to see the lowest price.

or a us vendor VAMO Variable Volt/Watt APV V2 use coupon vaporjoes11percent to get -11%off

vamo is the easiest, friendliest, quickest, best deal for the money. simple.

 

[Dannyboy5691]

I own the Spinner like you and I enjoy it. But in the long run it's going to cost more to replace and it doesn't have the nice features of the Vamo. If I would've had more money I probably would've bought one, and I didn't know about buying direct from China. Darn it! Lol. If you go on to YouTube you can see reviews of the Vamo and the ones I saw were all good. But I think I'm going with either an itaste MVP or itaste SVD for my next purchase, although now that I know I can buy the Vamo so cheaply from China I may by that also to have around. Vaping is cool. Lol.

 

[rojo]

I've never owned a "spinner" (as in a Vision Spinner) but I have owned a couple if ego twists. I've never owned a Vamo but I have owned a ProVari. As follows are what I have enjoyed about each, as well as the gripes I had with each.

Pros of eGo VV device

• cost
• diminutive size
• excellent performance for the money
• excellent vaping life between charges for the size

Cons of eGo VV device

• The best feeders (such as Geneses and Odysseus / Terminator or similar) make the mod severely top-heavy.
• Lower durability. I daresay most eGo battery owners sooner or later will experience having to pry up the center pin before every charge so the battery will make contact with the charger. Such has been the fate of at least two of my eGos.
• Can be difficult to dial in voltage in low light
• Keeping a spare battery charged means purchasing a second eGo

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Pros of big battery mod

• Sturdy foundation for better feeders
• The ProVari was much more durable. I'm not sure about the Vamo, but I've read many opinions ranging from "you get what you pay for" to a capable theft deterrent.
• Useful features such as battery voltage and atomizer resistance checks
• Variable wattage (on the Vamo) allows a set-and-forget level of power. It's immune to fluctuations in coil resistance.
• Modular batteries are cheaper to replace and to keep charged spares.

Cons of big battery mod

• Bulky. The ProVari I had felt like trying to vape on a Mag-Lite. The Vamo, Zmax and other Chinese VV / VW mods are even larger.
• ...unless you get a mini. But a mini means you'll have to keep spare 18350 batteries charged and switch out every 2 - 3 hours.
• And a mini has its firing button in the middle -- too low to activate comfortably with your thumb while keeping the mod balanced.

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For what it's worth, I prefer mechanical mods with the Kick. I still get variable wattage and regulated power, but the devices are much friendlier to my grip than a big billy club mod.

 

[geiger]

I have spinners, twists, and a vamo.

Here are my pros and cons:

Spinner:
Pros:
-Easy to read spin dial, the dial is threaded with the voltage indicator on the dial, and the volts on the body.
-Small and compact(compared to a vamo)
-eGo and 510 threading, no adapters needed for most liquid delivery devices used.
Cons:
-Rather fragile, the wiring solder points inside the head are rather fragile, a small drop could brick your battery

Twist:
Pros:
-Small and compact(compared to a vamo)
-eGo and 510 threading, no adapters needed for most liquid delivery devices used.
-More robust than the spinner, takes a bit more of a beating
Cons:
-Voltage measurements on the dial, this wears off very quickly

VAMO:
Pros:
-Variable Wattage and variable voltage, VW allows you to set a desired wattage to provide a consistent vape regardless of the head resistance
-Fairly robust, some o-ring issues with the positive connector, but easily fixable
-Battery voltage indicator to see the remaining voltage of the battery
-Can remove the bottom section to make the device smaller.
Cons:
-Although it's ego threaded, you will need an adapter for T3s.
-The mod is much bigger than the spinners/twists.

 

[wv2win]

I've never owned a "spinner" (as in a Vision Spinner) but I have owned a couple if ego twists. I've never owned a Vamo but I have owned a ProVari. As follows are what I have enjoyed about each, as well as the gripes I had with each.

Pros of eGo VV device

• cost
• diminutive size
• excellent performance for the money
• excellent vaping life between charges for the size

Cons of eGo VV device

• The best feeders (such as Geneses and Odysseus / Terminator or similar) make the mod severely top-heavy.
• Lower durability. I daresay most eGo battery owners sooner or later will experience having to pry up the center pin before every charge so the battery will make contact with the charger. Such has been the fate of at least two of my eGos.
• Can be difficult to dial in voltage in low light
• Keeping a spare battery charged means purchasing a second eGo

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Pros of big battery mod

• Sturdy foundation for better feeders
• Useful features such as battery voltage and atomizer resistance checks
• Variable wattage (on the Vamo) allows a set-and-forget level of power. It's immune to fluctuations in coil resistance.
• Modular batteries are cheaper to replace and to keep charged spares.

Cons of big battery mod

• Bulky. The ProVari I had felt like trying to vape on a Mag-Lite. The Vamo, Zmax and other Chinese VV / VW mods are even larger.
• ...unless you get a mini. But a mini means you'll have to keep spare 18350 batteries charged and switch out every 2 - 3 hours.
• And a mini has its firing button in the middle -- too low to activate comfortably with your thumb while keeping the mod balanced.

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For what it's worth, I prefer mechanical mods with the Kick. I still get variable wattage and regulated power, but the devices are much friendlier to my grip than a big billy club mod.

You missed some "cons" on the ego twist (spinner is the same basically)

* Cost: you will be paying $25+ for batteries in comparison to the Vamo's $11 batteries.
* Twist/spinner batteries last half as long (lifetime) as the Vamo $11 batteries
* Twist/spinner limits what cartos/attys you can use with it. Vamo does not have these limitations.

 

[wv2win]

The Vamo is just a better performing PV than either the Twist/spinner: variable wattage (set & forget) instead of variable volt; 5 amp switch which allows you to use almost any atty/carto/tank, unlike the limited twist/spinner; batteries that cost $11 instead of the $25+ for the twist/spinner; batteries that last twice as long as the twist/spinner; ohm meter and power remaining meter. It is bigger and heavier than the twist/spinner but it can be made physically smaller by using one 18350 battery.

I hope you have a clear picture.

 

[SirSteve]

I don't see why it is an either or situation, I have a VAMO and a Vision Spinner along with several other devices. They all have a place for me, I use the VAMO, Sig Zmax and Sig mech #8 more at home, the Spinner and Sig V8's I use more when I am out. Not sure if I'll replace the VAMO with another VAMO when it dies, but I am almost certain I will always have at least one Spinner.

I do have to admit that the VAMO is best value out there that I am aware of, and mine is still going strong after 5 months, I even have the black chrome and it still looks very nice.

 

[GetVaked]

Agreed on the VAMO, but between the two, I have a Spinner for 6 months and it is still working great. Has more mAh and a better dial.

 

[Oktyabr]

I graduated from a Vision Spinner to a Vamo for the reasons outlined here... cheaper batteries, longer lasting charge, compatible with a wider range of attys and carts (1.2 ohms instead of 1.5), higher amperage, higher VV/VW (the Vamo can do 6.0 volts), etc. I liked my Spinner just fine and planned on keeping it as a backup. Recently got into mechanical mods too and sold the Spinner to a friend of mine to help get him started.

I still recommend Spinners to new vapers all the time... it's one of the best all around devices you can buy for that sort of money. My wife has two of them and no desire to move on to "bigger and better things". If I needed to be hopping around a lot it would be a Spinner *on a lanyard* I'd prefer to take with me, with a second for backup. Maybe a couple of vivi nova minis and some spare juice.

 

[wv2win]

I graduated from a Vision Spinner to a Vamo for the reasons outlined here... cheaper batteries, longer lasting charge, compatible with a wider range of attys and carts (1.2 ohms instead of 1.5), higher amperage, higher VV/VW (the Vamo can do 6.0 volts), etc. I liked my Spinner just fine and planned on keeping it as a backup. Recently got into mechanical mods too and sold the Spinner to a friend of mine to help get him started.

I still recommend Spinners to new vapers all the time... it's one of the best all around devices you can buy for that sort of money. My wife has two of them and no desire to move on to "bigger and better things". If I needed to be hopping around a lot it would be a Spinner *on a lanyard* I'd prefer to take with me, with a second for backup. Maybe a couple of vivi nova minis and some spare juice.

Good points. If you need your PV to be small, the spinner gives you the smaller package in at least a variable package. Although has anyone made a comparison of the two with the Vamo being reduced in size using one battery I wonder. The spinner is probably still smaller. But on a purely performance and versitility level, the Vamo has the advantage.

 

[mvought]

I just want to say that if you use a kanger protank with that spinner, you might save yourself a little time before you want to buy the vamo. Rock solid! The protank is better on a vamo, but really good on an ego. Just a thought.

 

[ilovehugehits]

I own various versions of both the twist & spinner.
Also the JC Vea, which isn't VV; but is more durable than any of my other PVs. I like the easy read dial of the spinner. Also that it's available in a 400 mah mini version. The 5 second cutoff is annoying at times. I get a much better hit off of the twist. Color models look better than the spinner. Faster charge with Joyetech smart charger.
Also seems to hold a charge longer. Joyetech also offers incredible support. Vision isn't really a brand. They contract out to a lot of vendors. I just bought an 1100 passthrough Twist kit in a flash sale for $25 shipped. I'm good on PVs for a while. I'm really impressed with Joyetech. When I decide to upgrade, I'll just buy the eVic.
They're available on sale for $69.

 

[MBX5]

I own various versions of both the twist & spinner.
Also the JC Vea, which isn't VV; but is more durable than any of my other PVs. I like the easy read dial of the spinner. Also that it's available in a 400 mah mini version. The 5 second cutoff is annoying at times. I get a much better hit off of the twist. Color models look better than the spinner. Faster charge with Joyetech smart charger.
Also seems to hold a charge longer. Joyetech also offers incredible support. Vision isn't really a brand. They contract out to a lot of vendors. I just bought an 1100 passthrough Twist kit in a flash sale for $25 shipped. I'm good on PVs for a while. I'm really impressed with Joyetech. When I decide to upgrade, I'll just buy the eVic.
They're available on sale for $69.

Do you have a link for the evic at 69.00$?

 

[Unforeseen]

Moved to Variable Voltage APV Discussion

 

[ilovehugehits]

I think the $69 sale is over.
But Panda has them for around $80 shipped with a good warranty.