Spock dissed vaping via twitter

[PLANofMAN]

Mr. Nimoy is really bitter towards tobacco products of any kind. I can't say I blame him. If I stopped smoking for 30 years and then ended up with COPD anyway, I'd be pretty bitter too.

Surgeon General's warning has been on packs of smokes for 50 years now. We have only ourselves to blame. Heck, the warning was on the very first pack of smokes I ever bought. I still bought them for 15 years. I expect I'll have smoking related issues later in life too.

It sounds as though he lived much of his life in L.A./Hollywood...I'm sure some of, if not most, of his lung issues are also smog related.

 

[SleeZy]

Mr. Nimoy is really bitter towards tobacco products of any kind. I can't say I blame him. If I stopped smoking for 30 years and then ended up with COPD anyway, I'd be pretty bitter too.

Agreed, but it doesn't give him the rights to bash of the product as it would be the same. (Well ofcours we don't know what's gonna happen in 30 years, but still)

We're grown ups that choose to vape, and many of us did actually quit smoking with them. So it's realy annoying to hear ppl say "it's not proven to help stop smoking blabla"
Just leave it be and let us vape!

Only thing i'd agree on put age restriction on vaping at 18. Or even 21 if they want.
And perhaps making some quality check for e-juice, which i bet any serious juice maker would approve.

Because non smokers / youths shouldn't vape for the heck of it imo. But at the same time, youngsters is going to try to smoke anyway so in that way vaping is better.

I mean most of us started to smoke when we were teens, we know it's dangerous but we still did it.
And making stuff forbidden makes it even more "i've gotta see what the fuss is about" type amongs teens.
And another odd point is, they're now starting to legalize ........ but forbidding e-ciggs? I can't see the logic in that.

Edit, apparently my word is censured. I know it's not allowed to speak about it, but i was just making a point. Oh well.

 

[PLANofMAN]

One makes money for the Govt. the other doesn't.

 

[JaxMike]

"Because non smokers / youths shouldn't vape for the heck of it imo." - sleezy

I didn't quote your whole post... wasn't needed.

I'm kinda scratching my head over this opinion, which seems to be pretty much ECF-standard. So, it's fine for us who used to smoke, but we should oppose anyone "new" from vaping?

 

[alisa1970]

Surgeon General's warning has been on packs of smokes for 50 years now. We have only ourselves to blame. Heck, the warning was on the very first pack of smokes I ever bought. I still bought them for 15 years. I expect I'll have smoking related issues later in life too.

Yep--misplaced anger. I know I'll only have myself to blame if/when I have bona fide smoking related issues. Nobody, not even the tobacco company, held the stick in my mouth and made me inhale. The risks of smoking were well known when I started and I decided I wanted to do it anyway.

 

[Bramble]

Mr. Nimoy is really bitter towards tobacco products of any kind. I can't say I blame him. If I stopped smoking for 30 years and then ended up with COPD anyway, I'd be pretty bitter too.

I love Leonard Nimoy and am sorry he is going through this. But you reckon he is over 80... when he quit he would have been at least 50. I don't know how long he smoked, but I really doubt that he just ended up with COPD so much as possibly he was already on the way to it 30 years ago. By quitting when he did, he postponed its progression. But unfortunately the parts wear out over time, so to speak.

My ex continues to smoke even though he was diagnosed with emphysema at age 45. I don't wish him any harm or ill but at this point, if he lives to 82, it will be a miracle. Had he quit when doctors started telling him he was seriously damaging himself, he would have had a much better shot at it.

 

[SleeZy]

"Because non smokers / youths shouldn't vape for the heck of it imo." - sleezy

I didn't quote your whole post... wasn't needed.

I'm kinda scratching my head over this opinion, which seems to be pretty much ECF-standard. So, it's fine for us who used to smoke, but we should oppose anyone "new" from vaping?

It's a tough question for sure.
I mean, it's probably best to not vape at all right?
However if you're a smoker it's still the better of the two.
And for curious teens, they'll smoke or vape regardless but in this case it's way better if they start to vape.
But the best of all would be not to smoke/vape at all.

But in some ways, teens will probably go the mod route because they look cool and all that. However most don't know about battery safety or maybe even how to handle nic juice in the correct manners.
I've already seen a case were the guy, just didn't care at all for safety. He insisted to go directly on sub-ohming for the "super big clouds" Even though i adviced him to learn about it first.

Blah i'm tired to write more, i could probably write an essay about this. But i'm way to tired right now.

 

[JaxMike]

"Blah i'm tired to write more, i could probably write an essay about this. But i'm way to tired right now. "

LOL, me too. But watch out, 'cause I'm gonna bore you folks with my thoughts on it, somewhere along the line.

 

[Ken_A]

I don't have a Twitter account and didn't want to take the time to create one. Someone who does have an account should counter the false claims and provide a link to CASAA for some real up-to-date info on e-cigarettes.

CASAA

I gave the link to the comprehensive list of studies. I told him that I respect him as a person, but he should do research before telling people to die.
..may still have been a bit harsh. Mr nemoy is a great person overall. Ha is a very good actor, director and MOST of what he has done in his life is positive.

I'm 70ms on there, in case you are the only other advocate I see right now

did a search and followed.

It's "tweets" not "twits," but I find your version oddly appropriate for the occasion.

I call them twits and I'm constantly twitting, tweeting and generally making a nuisance of myself

 

[Nermal]

"Because non smokers / youths shouldn't vape for the heck of it imo." - sleezy

I didn't quote your whole post... wasn't needed.

I'm kinda scratching my head over this opinion, which seems to be pretty much ECF-standard. So, it's fine for us who used to smoke, but we should oppose anyone "new" from vaping?

I agree, Mike. We may be a minority, and I do understand their reasoning, but I agree with you. Let's Normalize vaping.

 

[SleeZy]

I agree, Mike. We may be a minority, and I do understand their reasoning, but I agree with you. Let's Normalize vaping.

Yea, but the reason i'm all in for age restriction is because of things like this:
Do Vape Pens Trick Teens? - YouTube

Fyi i realy despite that old lady speaking, she hasn't done any research at all.
I saw a longer clip from this but i couldn't find it.
But this clip is just uurhg..

"I think i'm addicted to vaping, i vape almost every weekend" Like what the hell...
Also it's up to the parents to take care for their kids.

 

[meanckz]

Perhaps i should make an twitter account, just to be able to reply to such incompetent claims.

I was thinking about that

 

[meanckz]

So, it's fine for us who used to smoke, but we should oppose anyone "new" from vaping?

as much or as little as we would oppose anyone new from smoking....
it didn't work with my daughter, unfortunately, everyone around her was smoking...
I got her some Evods and liquids and got her into vaping (she is 21, but I wouldn't have hesitated to get her into it sooner)

 

[SleeZy]

I suggest you all to watch the short youtube movie i posted. The reason why i disslike minors to vape. It's giving us a realy bad reputation that's not helping our cause...

 

[Baditude]

as much or as little as we would oppose anyone new from smoking....
it didn't work with my daughter, unfortunately, everyone around her was smoking...
I got her some Evods and liquids and got her into vaping (she is 21, but I wouldn't have hesitated to get her into it sooner)

My daughter is 18. She's not a tobacco smoker but her BF, brother, and several of her friends all smoke. They are all of legal age to buy cigarettes. For my daughter's 18th birthday she requested her own mod setup to vape no-nic flavors for when she and her friends were just hanging out together.

I recalled that this was the age that I began smoking, primarily from my friends' peer pressure and influence on myself. I rationalized that if I could somehow lessen the chance that my daughter would pick up the habit of smoking via vaping, that would be a pro-active rather than reactive response.

Since she has been vaping for a little over 6 months, her BF, brother, and a couple of her friends have begun vaping (with nicotine) to stop smoking. Her positive influence on them will hopefully help them stop a terrible habit from being a life-long habit.

 

[Ken_A]

No one is going to stop young people from trying ANY new thing. you can find similar videos of other adult activities. I'm not going to go around with a sign that says "I'm the Vapemoral man and vaping is a cool as being a cowboy", but I'm also not going to start shouting "Thou shall not VAPE!" in the parking lots of schools and churches.
ANY adult activity should be held to adults....
which will make many kids and teens want to do it, but that is human nature.
...
distracting yourself with sub-campaigns is only going to make the vaping community weaker.
support under-18 restrictions.
do not support ANY 18 and over restrictions.

and don't keep focusing "on the children"

 

[Jarbs]

well, one person who is anti vaping is correct in saying e-cigs do contain acetaldehyde since that is in many orange and strawberry flavors, but it's also found in orange juice. though they don't know that it is rendered inert when heat is applied to it.

 

[Rocketpunk]

ten characters

 

[zanthious]

he just wants you to live long and prosper bro..

im sure this has been said 10 times already

 

[Steamer861]

This is a quote from the link This is the dumbest thing I have read in a long time! The problem is the majority of the population has no clue
how PV's can help smokers quite! drug addicts are given methadone to get off hard drugs and it,s acceptable how are PV's different?
even if you think it is the lesser of two evils it is the lesser!

Certain selections of ecigs are designed to help quit, but the majority are designed to sell toxic inhalants.