Stapel staggered

[Billy The Kid]

So im a new builder i have a bonza rda and i bin useing 0.45 fused claptons
dual and they come out as 0.30 so no problem

so i bought 2 picks of stapeled staggered 0.2 coils and when i was takeing
the heat spots out of them my snowwolf vfeng start to get heavy hot
and i notised the ohm was 0.08 So
whats the issue what am i doing wrong and cant my mod handle it or ?
and why it go so low as in 0.08 ?

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Billy The Kid

 

[Asbestos4004]

What's it say on the package? What's the wire made out of? Give some better details .
Is ".2" per coil or per set of coils? If it's per coil, it makes sense for it to read .08 for duals...

 

[Eskie]

A build coming in at 0.08 ohms is asking an awful lot from your mod (nevermind forget it on an unregulated mech). One of the problems of buying pre-made wire is that there can and will be variation from coil to coil. Some is from how you mount it, leg length, and some is a function of assembly. Fancy coils may be hand made and have some variation from build techniques or machine wrapped and have poor QC.

I would suggest some serious consideration about the safety of that build and take another approach. If it were me I'd never vape that build even if I thoight I could get away with it.

Side note. If you like builds that come in at low resistance, make sure you're batteries are up to the demand. A crappy rewrap is not going to give you 30-40A and 3,000 mAh. It's simply not a possibility with 18650 batteries, so if the ones you're using are some off brand make, I'd replace them like now. Not after they fail and cause damage.

 

[Steve Parry]

Running dual coils makes your total resistance half the resistance of the single coil. You're not doing it wrong, it just is what it is. Some mods can handle that, some can't, but it's really unnecessary to go that low. If the legs are long enough, try adding a wrap on each end. Should get you up over .1 ohm.

 

[dom qp]

0.45 coils in dual coming up to 0.30 is very wrong. Something wrong with that.

As mentioned already: 0.20 in dual coming up to 0.08 is well within margin of error. When building that low small things like leg length, screw tightness, and rounding can vary it. You're more or less 0.01 off per coil, which is nothing.

I would save your stapled claptons for a single coil build.

 

[Steve Parry]

0.45 coils in dual coming up to 0.30 is very wrong.

Wow. I didn't catch that part. Yeah, way off.

 

[Billy The Kid]

Wow. I didn't catch that part. Yeah, way off.

its pre build fused claptons i have tryed 3x2 and all 3 times the ohm came out on my mod 0.30

 

[Steve Parry]

its pre build fused claptons i have tryed 3x2 and all 3 times the ohm came out on my mod 0.30

They're off on their listing then, because .45 ohms should come out to roughly .22 ohms in a dual setup. To get .3 you need two .6 ohm coils.

 

[Billy The Kid]

0.45 coils in dual coming up to 0.30 is very wrong. Something wrong with that.

As mentioned already: 0.20 in dual coming up to 0.08 is well within margin of error. When building that low small things like leg length, screw tightness, and rounding can vary it. You're more or less 0.01 off per coil, which is nothing.

I would save your stapled claptons for a single coil build.

i got 10 coils in a box and tried 3 x 2 and all of them come at 0.30 on my snowwolf vfeng
what could i be doing wrong ? you have any idie ?

 

[Billy The Kid]

They're off on their listing then, because .45 ohms should come out to roughly .22 ohms in a dual setup. To get .3 you need two .6 ohm coils.

aa ok i see thx so much for quick anwser !!!!

 

[stols001]

Yes, dual coils will halve your resistance. I don't remember why (and it does seem sort of counterintuitive, at first) but I bet someone else can explain it. If this is your first dual build with those coils it's well within the margin of error.

Your mod is likely getting hot due to the combination of such low resistance coupled with a tank that has a "ton" of metal in it, needing to be heated up. Exotic coils can cause this problem, as they typically have more "mass" in the wire to heat up.

Either single coil build or try two slightly higher resistance but NON exotic coils. You probably want higher resistance than 0.08 anyway, and your mod and batteries may not be able to handle that resistance, especially if also needing to heat up a ton of mass. You are overstressing your equipment that way, so don't build that way. Exotic wires can be great for flavor but the premium you pay will be more stress on the batteries to heat up the build (at any resistance) but it typically becomes a LARGER problem if you are asking the mod and batteries to deliver more than they can handle given your build and etc.

Best of luck,

Anna

 

[untar]

I don't remember why (and it does seem sort of counterintuitive, at first) but I bet someone else can explain it

Imagine a line of people in the supermarket and only a single register. That's your single coil, each customer has to go through that line.
Now open a second register and the same line will clear twice as fast since now 2 people at once can be served.
That's your double coil.

You're halving the "resistance" of your checkout area to customers by opening a second register

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

Imagine a line of people in the supermarket and only a single register. That's your single coil, each customer has to go through that line.
Now open a second register and the same line will clear twice as fast since now 2 people at once can be served.
That's your double coil.

You're halving the "resistance" of your checkout area to customers by opening a second register

UNLESS...

Some knucklehead ignores the "10 items or less" rule in the express lane. That could cause a hotspot.

 

[AzPlumber]

UNLESS...

Some knucklehead ignores the "10 items or less" rule in the express lane. That could cause a hotspot.

I think a "hotspot" is when two or more customers start touching each other.

 

[Asbestos4004]

UNLESS...

Some knucklehead ignores the "10 items or less" rule in the express lane. That could cause a hotspot.

Does 'buy one, get one free' count as one item or two?

 

[Mr. Relentless]

1 minute of heating coils will warm up most mods. More so on exotic coils since it takes longer to adjust and strum. 500 degrees or more with no wet cotton or air being pulled over them. I'm sure after you get it glowing even and wick it it won't heat up nearly as bad while using it.

 

[Solaire]

I think a "hotspot" is when two or more customers start touching each other.

That's the only reason I go to the grocery store,,,,

 

[HauntedMyst]

A build coming in at 0.08 ohms is asking an awful lot from your mod (nevermind forget it on an unregulated mech)

Ignore Eskie, he doesn't know what he talking about. I once hit .005 on a mech mod with 50mg nic before everything went black and I had a 15 minute chat with Nostradamus about his writing (which he meant as comic satire dialog for a cartoon strip he was working on but he could never find the right artist to work with for his characters. He thinks it's hysterical everyone thinks he was serious. Funny guy - claims to have invented "pull my finger").

 

[Letitia]

Somebody really should write a compilation of an ECF quips.

 

[leftyandsparky]

Does 'buy one, get one free' count as one item or two?

I would also like to know that answer. Publix is always having a sale.