Steeping Times and an Ultrasonic Cleaner Part III

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WL isn't currently at the top of their game. They have the banner up saying nic orders will be delayed. What they don't say is non-nic orders are also delayed. I placed an order for some TFA flavorings and beakers that were all in stock 2 days ago, hasn't been shipped yet.

I hate to hear that!

I have only been DIY for about three months (OK, it really is 5) and WL is just my "go-to" place...

Too late now...
 

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WL isn't currently at the top of their game. They have the banner up saying nic orders will be delayed. What they don't say is non-nic orders are also delayed. I placed an order for some TFA flavorings and beakers that were all in stock 2 days ago, hasn't been shipped yet.

There arent too bad on other stuff. I placed an order for a couple liters of HCL reagents (no nic) for my Nicotine test kit from them on Sunday and they shipped yesterday.
 

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As I read his post, these are for shipping the blind test samples to testers. I bet he will mix the entire batch in glass, and split this into three glass containers for the "processes".

Mike - If this is not correct, holler at me and I will modify the WL order.

Yes, I will use my own glass beakers and bottles for the mixing/cooking. I will then use those to fill the 10ml plastic bottles.

Each set will contain one 10ml bottle labeled:
  • Control sample (uncooked)
  • Sample A
  • Sample B

I will not disclose which process A or B is until testers report their conclusions, but I will label the Control (uncooked) sample.

I will time the testing so that I can ship the day following the tests to minimize the effect of natural aging, I suggest USPS Priority.
 

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Placed order with WL for the following:
TFA RY4 Double 2 x 8mL
TFA Caramel TFA Flavor 1 x 8mL
TFA Sweet Cream 1 x 8mL
10 mL plastic bottles 1 dozen

All being shipped to Mikepetro - priority mail. Mike, you keep the leftovers...

Mike - I'll PM you the USPS tracking number as soon as I get it.

What final recipe did you guys land on?

What ratio of PG/VG would you like me to use? I use:
I use "Essential Depot" VG and PG.

How many mg/l of Nic do you want?

Which Nic would you like? I have:
RTS 10% in PG
WL 3.6% in PG
Darkside 99.7% no dillutant

My Strawberry test was a 50/50 mix at 36mg/l using RTS nic.

I am not sure if the ratios, potency, or nic source effect the speed aging in any way. Really doesnt matter I guess, we are trying to identify the better aging method for this particular recipe regardless.
 

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What final recipe did you guys land on?

What ratio of PG/VG would you like me to use? I use:
I use "Essential Depot" VG and PG.

How many mg/l of Nic do you want?

Which Nic would you like? I have:
RTS 10% in PG
WL 3.6% in PG
Darkside 99.7% no dillutant

My Strawberry test was a 50/50 mix at 36mg/l using RTS nic.

I am not sure if the ratios, potency, or nic source effect the speed aging in any way. Really doesnt matter I guess, we are trying to identify the better aging method for this particular recipe regardless.

Hey Danny - Please address these items... If it's left up to me, I'd say just roll the dice (random).
 

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OK Folks, got the flavorings and bottles on Monday, sorry but last 2 nights were already booked. Company dinner on Monday night and last night I had to box up an ECF Co-op for a bunch of DNA30s.

200 DNA30s boxed and ready to ship......
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Nobody has given me a final recipe, please speak up! I intend to do this trial tomorrow evening and ship the results out on Friday.

If I dont hear anything I will make it like this:
(anything can be adjusted, just speak up)

50/50 PG/VG base
24 mg/l Nic
DRY4 7%
Caramel 2%
Cream 2%

Unless someone voices some other desire I will do the trial like this:
  • Mix a 100ml batch of the above recipe.
  • Put 30ml into 3 different glass bottles.
  • Steep one bottle in the Ultrasonic at 150f for 3 hours
  • Steep one bottle in the Crock Pot at 150f for 3 hours
  • Dispense results into 10ml plastic bottles labeled: Control Sample (unsteeped), Sample A, and Sample B.
  • Ship 3 sets of samples out the next day.

Still need the Postage and Addresses for the three samplers.........
 

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Still need the Postage and Addresses for the three samplers.........

If there is any way you can determine shipping charges in advance, let us know. We can then send you the money via Paypal.

PM is probably the best way to handle this...

Sending you my info this evening...
 

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I'm on a restricted bandwidth so I haven't been able to read through the whole topic.

I'm testing a theory tomorrow and will post here with results. It has been suggested to me that using small hard plastic balls in my ultrasonic bath instead of water would be more efficient in that more of the energy would reach my mix.

I'm not confident but I'm definitely gonna give it a try.
 

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I'm on a restricted bandwidth so I haven't been able to read through the whole topic.

I'm testing a theory tomorrow and will post here with results. It has been suggested to me that using small hard plastic balls in my ultrasonic bath instead of water would be more efficient in that more of the energy would reach my mix.

I'm not confident but I'm definitely gonna give it a try.

I am not an expert by any means, but running the cleaner without liquid at all wouldn't that burn the thing up???

Sent from Lost Trader's Tavern on my HTC One
 
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