Steeping Times and an Ultrasonic Cleaner Part III
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Motion requested and accepted. Public disclosure of methods will remain concealed until new testers review.
I hope no more testers will be called, I would love to know which method was used before... X-mas 
Thanks MP and testers. I'll start my lobbying for the Nobel Prize
Thanks MP and testers. I'll start my lobbying for the Nobel Prize
hahaha here is a post where the O.P. has tried every steeping method there is and actually tells you the results of their testing.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/548175-more-uc-vs-crockpot-my-experience.html if you have a few bucks to blow I would just try it yourself if not use your crock pot. there will be less T.H. and faster results
I hope no more testers will be called, I would love to know which method was used before... X-mas
Thanks MP and testers. I'll start my lobbying for the Nobel Prize
Hey All,
Ive got to make up a batch of 555 and Desert Ship today so what do yall think about this:
4 hours in the UC is 240 minutes/30 eight minute cycles.
Water temp straight from the faucet is 68 degrees Fahrenheit. If I keep adding ice cubes to the tank each time I restart a cycle, I should be able to keep the water temperature well below 100 degrees. After 30 cycles Ill see what I end up with.
Prelim test I did while typing this post: I filled the tank, added 5 ice cubes, and at the end of an eight minute cycle the ice cubes werent completely melted and the water in the tank was 60 degrees.
Ive got to make up a batch of 555 and Desert Ship today so what do yall think about this:
4 hours in the UC is 240 minutes/30 eight minute cycles.
Water temp straight from the faucet is 68 degrees Fahrenheit. If I keep adding ice cubes to the tank each time I restart a cycle, I should be able to keep the water temperature well below 100 degrees. After 30 cycles Ill see what I end up with.
Prelim test I did while typing this post: I filled the tank, added 5 ice cubes, and at the end of an eight minute cycle the ice cubes werent completely melted and the water in the tank was 60 degrees.
I think this is a great test to do. that will eliminate the heat factor and give a good result as to just the vibration. do it do it ! the master of the UC strikes again lol
Started The Batch.
Mixed up some 555 and Desert Ship, ran the water until it was as cold as it was gonna get, and began. The starting water temp was 60 degrees. After 4 cycles it's up to 70.
More later ...
Mixed up some 555 and Desert Ship, ran the water until it was as cold as it was gonna get, and began. The starting water temp was 60 degrees. After 4 cycles it's up to 70.
More later ...
hahaha here is a post where the O.P. has tried every steeping method there is and actually tells you the results of their testing.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/548175-more-uc-vs-crockpot-my-experience.html if you have a few bucks to blow I would just try it yourself if not use your crock pot. there will be less T.H. and faster results
I'm just curious about the results, so that the nay sayers can finally move along to another thread
I'm a heater (I use a dehydrator btw) by easy of use, just because my UC has only an 10 minute timer.
But I'm happy with both UC and Heat steeping. Patience is not a virtue of mine.
The thing people don't get is the 1st very simple rule I've learnt about vaping: "If it works for you..."
I've read about it but I've never seen it in anything I've ever done.
do you dump the water each cycle or use the same? Maybe change the water each cycle to keep it cool?
I'm trying to keep the water around room temp. Temps for the last 14 (8 minute) cycles:
60-65-68-70-72-80-80-82 (added ice) - 78-80-82 (added ice) - 76-78-80.
I'm going to keep the water from getting over 82 degrees (which in no way can be considered hot) and see where I'm at after 30 cycles. Normally I'd be about finished by that time.
I would be very interested to here the results. What would even be better is if you steeped via heat for the same amount of time then compared the two. Could give some retrospect on the paint shaker theory
Patience is a fancy word for wasting time
Or a word for someone with to much time on there hands
You mean simultaneously with a Crock Pot? No can do. I gave ours to my daughter.
But ... I do have some leftovers for comparison from my last batch when I didn't pay any attention to the UC heat build up at all. I can barely remember to turn the freakin' thing back on every 8 minutes.
The water temp in the tank started out at 60 degrees and by the fifth 8 minute cycle it reached 72 degrees. Whenever the water reached 80 - 82 degrees I added ice to the tank bringing the temp back down to the low to mid 70s. The water temp never went higher than 82 and the average temp over the 30 cycles was 75.66666666666667.
After 30 cycles the color was definitely there for both flavors. Same colors as my earlier batches.
I put some of the brand new 555 and Desert Ship in two BCC MiniVivi Novas with new coils, and vaped. I also vaped some 555 and Desert Ship from a previous batch for comparison. The taste of the new stuff was a tad thinner for both flavors than the previous batch. Not unpleasant nor raw by any means. Just not as full. By the time I get around to vaping them days from now Ill bet theyll be there. Today Id give them a 92 out of a 100.
Heres where my assumptions kick in. Meaning I dont know what Im talking about. Just guessing based on my fooling around with this.
The recipe I follow doesnt even qualify as a recipe compared to what you guys do. PG + VG + Nic + 1% flavoring. Thats it. There is no melding of flavors because I only use one flavor. After I make a batch I might combine some of the juices, give it a shake, and thats it. A mix of 50% 555 and 50% DK Tobacco is tasty. But thats after the UC routine.
It seems reasonable to assume that heat thins out the juice and allows flavors to blend more easily. If you leave my UC alone and keep pressing the on button every 8 minutes itll eventually raise the temp of the water to 102 degrees. (Everyone else seems to report their UC's make the water much hotter. There's a huge chance I got what I paid for and it isn't that good.) The 26 degree bump up in temp from 75.6666666666 to 102 must thin out my PG/VG mix more and allows my ONE flavor to mingle easier. The more flavorings youd use in a recipe I think heat becomes a more important variable.
But without heat the UC brought the one-flavor juices to a maturation point where Id vape them right now without a problem. It was only when I compared the two batches I could tell the slight differences.
But the most fun Ive had today, besides keeping notes every 8 minutes, was playing around with a Lambo 6.0 I was sent to review and am I Having Fun. Its my first experience with a VW device. I get it now. A VW device is a VV device that went back to school.
So thats it. The entire process seemed too much like work and Im glad I can go back to vaping unencumbered by the thought process.
After 30 cycles the color was definitely there for both flavors. Same colors as my earlier batches.
I put some of the brand new 555 and Desert Ship in two BCC MiniVivi Novas with new coils, and vaped. I also vaped some 555 and Desert Ship from a previous batch for comparison. The taste of the new stuff was a tad thinner for both flavors than the previous batch. Not unpleasant nor raw by any means. Just not as full. By the time I get around to vaping them days from now Ill bet theyll be there. Today Id give them a 92 out of a 100.
Heres where my assumptions kick in. Meaning I dont know what Im talking about. Just guessing based on my fooling around with this.
The recipe I follow doesnt even qualify as a recipe compared to what you guys do. PG + VG + Nic + 1% flavoring. Thats it. There is no melding of flavors because I only use one flavor. After I make a batch I might combine some of the juices, give it a shake, and thats it. A mix of 50% 555 and 50% DK Tobacco is tasty. But thats after the UC routine.
It seems reasonable to assume that heat thins out the juice and allows flavors to blend more easily. If you leave my UC alone and keep pressing the on button every 8 minutes itll eventually raise the temp of the water to 102 degrees. (Everyone else seems to report their UC's make the water much hotter. There's a huge chance I got what I paid for and it isn't that good.) The 26 degree bump up in temp from 75.6666666666 to 102 must thin out my PG/VG mix more and allows my ONE flavor to mingle easier. The more flavorings youd use in a recipe I think heat becomes a more important variable.
But without heat the UC brought the one-flavor juices to a maturation point where Id vape them right now without a problem. It was only when I compared the two batches I could tell the slight differences.
But the most fun Ive had today, besides keeping notes every 8 minutes, was playing around with a Lambo 6.0 I was sent to review and am I Having Fun. Its my first experience with a VW device. I get it now. A VW device is a VV device that went back to school.
So thats it. The entire process seemed too much like work and Im glad I can go back to vaping unencumbered by the thought process.
I'm just curious about the results, so that the nay sayers can finally move along to another thread
I'm a heater (I use a dehydrator btw) by easy of use, just because my UC has only an 10 minute timer.
But I'm happy with both UC and Heat steeping. Patience is not a virtue of mine.
The thing people don't get is the 1st very simple rule I've learnt about vaping: "If it works for you..."
Mine has a 3 minute timer. I run it for 30-45 minutes at a time.
I pay attention and don't let it get too hot. It's worked for me that way for over a year.
30 well spent bucks.
Mine has a 3 minute timer. I run it for 30-45 minutes at a time.
I pay attention and don't let it get too hot. It's worked for me that way for over a year.
30 well spent bucks.
I've got one looks exactly the same, cant remember the brand, and with a simple timer plugged it, you can run it 30 mins on, 30 mins off. (by keeping the on button pressed like your doing)
The water absolutely gets hot, hot enough that it is uncomfortable to stick your fingers in. I never took a temp reading, but its easily as hot as hot water out of the tap or hotter (maybe).
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