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Habonde

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I really like vaping and I have successfully quit the analogs using the volt. So now I'm thinking I want something that is more into vaping and not smoking. I don't want the look and feel of smoking any longer, but since I am still new I am bit overwhelmed with all the cartomizers,clearomizers, and tanks... not to mention mods. I am still really nervous about cartomizers because I don't want to have to punch a hole in them. Clearomizers seem ok since it is a wicking system and maybe the only thing I will have to do is take out the top wick or fluff some of the strands. Tanks, I dunno, not much research yet.

I am thinking I will go with a mini nova and a ego twist, or is that outdated now and there is something better? How long do you think that setup will last before I start getting the itch for something bigger. I can see this becoming a hobby quick, but in turn I don't want to lose sight of the saving money by not buying analogs.

Should I just skip this middle set up and go for the a device like the Vamo or Provarti?

Thanks!
Nicole
 

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If you have an itching that you might upgrade quickly then you should just buy a mod. They can be quite expensive but if you go to the fasttech thread in the general forum I think there are some authentic full kits that you can buy for $45-$60; which is around the same price if you were to make an ego setup buying from a US vendor.
 

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Hi and welcome to ECF.
All devices below are 510/ eGo threaded. Volt is 8o8.
If looking for a Twist/ Spinner type of battery you're in luck- would need charger and wall adapter though:
Vapor Joes - Daily Vaping Deals: LOWER: Smoktech Winder VV Ego 900mAh - $16.14
As for the Vamo I use mine at home as it's too large for out and about. I use the Spinner when I go out.
FastTech has a complete Vamo Kit with excellent batteries and charger for $53.00- Vamo tube, 2 X Panasonic 2250 mah batteries and a NiteCore charger.
$53.33 Vamo-Vivi Stainless Steel Voltage Adjustable E-Cigarette Battery Compartment Set - with Nitecore I2 US battery charger/charger cable/2*Panasonic CGR18650CH 18650 batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
Best of Luck.
 

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I use a Vamo and Provari all day and switch out flavors. The Vamo doesn't have the build quality but it does everything the Provari does plus adds VW. I don't have any problems recommending it because it's been flawless so far. Probably shouldn't drop it on a sidewalk.
PBudardo has reviews and recommendations on the Provari and Vamo. TasteYourJuice.com




I really like vaping and I have successfully quit the analogs using the volt. So now I'm thinking I want something that is more into vaping and not smoking. I don't want the look and feel of smoking any longer, but since I am still new I am bit overwhelmed with all the cartomizers,clearomizers, and tanks... not to mention mods. I am still really nervous about cartomizers because I don't want to have to punch a hole in them. Clearomizers seem ok since it is a wicking system and maybe the only thing I will have to do is take out the top wick or fluff some of the strands. Tanks, I dunno, not much research yet.

I am thinking I will go with a mini nova and a ego twist, or is that outdated now and there is something better? How long do you think that setup will last before I start getting the itch for something bigger. I can see this becoming a hobby quick, but in turn I don't want to lose sight of the saving money by not buying analogs.

Should I just skip this middle set up and go for the a device like the Vamo or Provarti?

Thanks!
Nicole
 

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I'm concerned with buying non name brand because my research has showed that the generic has proven to not last or not be as good of quality. What is your personal experience with the Smoktech brand.

I am finding it difficult to find the twist in purple from a website that also carries the vivi nova. I like to one stop shop.

SmokTech is a very large and reputable company. I own both Twists and Spinner and prefer the Spinner cuz the voltage markings are easy to see and it has a wider knurled voltage dial. Also 1 mm wider than the Twist but is shorter. SmokTech Winder is similar to the Spinner. Spinner is made by Vision another large and reputable company. As for knockoffs ALL of JoyeTech PVs are clones of other PVs.
As for all manufacturers I pick and choose the best and am not brand loyal.
 

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I love Phil's reviews. They have given me so much information that is easy to understand! So do you think I should skip the twist?

Pheel's (I also watch Dimitris and the vape team :) ) reviews are great - re: skipping the twist - depends on if a big PV like the vamo or provari would bother you - I use the twist when out and about in public and at work and just use the vamo's in the car and at home
 

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I picked up a a SmokTech Winder on a good sale. They are solid as far as variable voltage eGos go. I'm with you though. Joyetech is one of the few e cig companies that are known for quality. In my opinion, you can get a vv eGo from joyetech, smoktech, or vision and you will be happy. I just started using tanks. Previously, I was a Kanger MT3 guy. I think that the vivi novas are sublime. I think what you're planning to buy sounds good.
 

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Can someone please tell me if these Vamo's are the same? They seem so, but I just want to make sure I am not missing anything important. I like the look of the first one better than the plain stainless with the Vivi. This is a great price and since I am primarly getting this just for the vamo, I dont really care what "juicer", ha! I think I just made that up, is on it.

$48.39 Vamo V3 6-in-1 Variable Voltage Electronic Cigarettes Set with OLED Screen - 2*18350 / chrome / US plug at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

$52.08 Vamo-Vivi Voltage Adjustable Rechargeable Electronic Cigarette Health Keeping Set - 2*18350 / stainless steel / US plug at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
 

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Can someone please tell me if these Vamo's are the same? They seem so, but I just want to make sure I am not missing anything important. I like the look of the first one better than the plain stainless with the Vivi. This is a great price and since I am primarly getting this just for the vamo, I dont really care what "juicer", ha! I think I just made that up, is on it.

$48.39 Vamo V3 6-in-1 Variable Voltage Electronic Cigarettes Set with OLED Screen - 2*18350 / chrome / US plug at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

$52.08 Vamo-Vivi Voltage Adjustable Rechargeable Electronic Cigarette Health Keeping Set - 2*18350 / stainless steel / US plug at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

The 2 links above contain low quality batteries and charger and are not Stainless Steel...the finishes are fingerprint magnets and scratch very easily. A friend bought one and although he was ever so careful with it in 3 weeks it looked horrible. 1st link is version 3- not much diff except for display and grooves. 2nd link includes knockoff Vivi Novas and is version 2.
This kit $53.33 Vamo-Vivi Stainless Steel Voltage Adjustable E-Cigarette Battery Compartment Set - with Nitecore I2 US battery charger/charger cable/2*Panasonic CGR18650CH 18650 batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping if bought in North America would cost about $100. I ordered from FT 4 times now and have been very happy with the price and service.
 

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    I've never liked seeing folks buying a Ferrari to take driving lessons, but at the same time I dislike seeing folks buying a lot of stuff that is just going to end up in the trash.

    So first lets brake it down just a bit. The power source and the delivery system are two different things, and need to be discussed separately, but first and foremost you need to have something that will keep you vaping instead of smoking while you find out what you like, and what you don't. Also don't leave juices out of the equation. Different flavors/formulas are just as important as what you put them in.

    and someone said this isn't rocket science

    SO, keep that old Volt charged up, and ready to go, for when things get a little frustrating ... and they will ...

    First don't be intimidated by punching cartomizers, pre drilled cartos are available from almost every vendor, and the carto tanks are a good option for many.
    Which clearomizer is best depends on which PV you intend to put it on. Different clearos fit/perform best on different PV's. Clearos are also a good option for many.
    Hold off on the advanced delivery systems like RBA's, etc. until you have some idea about what you like or you will find yourself spending a lot of cash on things that just aren't your thing. One persons treasure is quite often another persons trash.
    The bad part about different delivery systems is that you will never know if something is the perfect system for you if you have never tried it. In the end, they all work ... but they all work a little differently.

    The same can be said about which PV you choose to use, but in the end I'm willing to bet that you will find that more than one works best. However you don't need to buy them all at once.

    My first upgrade from my first e-cig was a Silver Bullet. That was two years ago, and I still use it every day. It's a strait 3.7v unregulated PV (without a Kick), and a perfect platform for learning the ins and outs of vaping because of it's simplicity. From simple cartos to Gennys, I've used everything you can imagine on it.
     
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    Habonde

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    Thank you Tj99959. I think I am going to go ahead and just get the twist with the mini vivi and stop there before I rack up a bunch of dollars like you suggested. It is very tempting to go ahead and get the vamo since it is such a great price, but I dont think I would use it right away and by then something could be put on the market that is The Game Changer!

    I am going to go ahead and go with Smoketech's version, because well...I like the fushia! lol I know it is a stupid reason, but it is pleasing to my eye and I feel like that will pull me towards it when things do get fusterating.
     

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    I really like vaping and I have successfully quit the analogs using the volt. So now I'm thinking I want something that is more into vaping and not smoking. I don't want the look and feel of smoking any longer, but since I am still new I am bit overwhelmed with all the cartomizers,clearomizers, and tanks... not to mention mods. I am still really nervous about cartomizers because I don't want to have to punch a hole in them. Clearomizers seem ok since it is a wicking system and maybe the only thing I will have to do is take out the top wick or fluff some of the strands. Tanks, I dunno, not much research yet.

    I am thinking I will go with a mini nova and a ego twist, or is that outdated now and there is something better? How long do you think that setup will last before I start getting the itch for something bigger. I can see this becoming a hobby quick, but in turn I don't want to lose sight of the saving money by not buying analogs.

    Should I just skip this middle set up and go for the a device like the Vamo or Provarti?

    Thanks!
    Nicole

    If you're uncertain, I would suggest holding off on one of the advanced systems. You could get something more like: Spinner/Twist Combo. Doesn't have to be that one, doesn't have to be that vendor. I just like the way they've pulled a kit together.

    And, no, they're not "out dated". Not at all. The Mini Nova is very popular around here. I have one but, honestly, just think it looks "bulky" on my Twists. That's just pure personal preference. It works great. I use the Vision "Stardust" style (but the ones with the changeable heads so I can replace 'em when the little coil burns out... up at that link, they call them "Vision eGo Clearomizer 2.0").

    Twists and Spinners are good, solid batteries and give you basic "variable voltage". Which is nice because juices taste different at different levels of heat. I've got one I'm vaping now that's a banana kind of flavor and if I vape it at the top end of the voltage scale, it gets a "burnt" kinda taste. Or "scorched"? Something. It ain't good. :)

    Others need the top voltage to taste good. The Twists and Spinners, they have little knobs you turn. Nothing fancy nor complicated.

    Clearos are easy to deal with. Not much to them. The ones I use look like this:

    large_EGO-CE5_Cartomizer_-_green.jpg

    Taking them apart is easy. The parts "screw" together. The little "coil head" is the heater. You can buy replacements and they don't cost much. I haven't had to replace any in a month. Don't know how long they last but it's a while far as I can tell.

    Real easy to care for. Cleaning is pretty simple. Filling is easy. I like to buy little "needle tips" for my juice bottles just because it makes filling easier. But that's not really necessary. You just have to watch you don't fill so fast you get juice down the middle "air hole" thing.

    The Mini Nova is even easier to fill. Little more "room" to maneuver in. :)

    I am still really nervous about cartomizers because I don't want to have to punch a hole in them.

    Actually, that's for a type of tank like system that combines cartomizers and clearos. A carto in a tanko or something. :)

    Just a cartomizer, you fill either by the "bottom fill" (or, heh, seriously, "condom") method or by dripping into the top of the batting. I started with them and still have a few for certain juices that taste better with them for reasons I have not figured out. They're a little more annoying to fill and a bit messy using the "condom method" (well, I am a klutz :) ) but not rocket science. Tons of YouTube videos on the basics of both cartos and clearos to show you how to work with them.

    I think clearos, though, are the easiest to deal with. Real simple. Mostly, "squirt juice in, screw onto battery, vape".

    The Vamo and Provari (among several) are "advanced" PVs. Nice widgets but you may not want to jump into the "advanced" world right off. Mini Novas and a couple of Twists or Spinners would make a fine kit, be easy to use, and then as you gained experience with what works for you best in the world o' vaping, you could look at the higher end kits.

    (I've told myself I have to make a year of not smoking before I get a toy like a Provari. :) )
     
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