Uh oh, I substituted .5% Cinnamon Spice and .5% Holiday Spice for Eggnog
Stevo's Vanilla Custard
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Uh oh, I substituted .5% Cinnamon Spice and .5% Holiday Spice for Eggnog
I used the sweetener at 6% but I need to go lower I think.
And your cinnamon and holiday are a full percent lower than mine, I think you're golden.
Can't wait to hear how it turns out!
And your cinnamon and holiday are a full percent lower than mine, I think you're golden.
Can't wait to hear how it turns out!
Well, something in this mix does not play well with T3 heads, a brand new one already tasting burnt after 2 days.
Come on vapemail!! Want to do this the right way. . .
Come on vapemail!! Want to do this the right way. . .
Im not sure what I am missing.BUt I thought that ANY flavor containing custard ingredients contained diacetyl/acetyl type elements?
STEVO's site even goes so far as to say his has no diacetly in it.Im not saying what he states is wrong in any manner.
But posters in this thread talk about custard type ingredients which I have been led to believe contain diacetyl/acetyl.This includes vanilla custard from capellas,or DELUXE french vanilla from TFA,which linda states has diacetyl type componenets.This always,(I believed) included "BUTTER" type flavors..
Not trying to argue in any way,just would like to have some clarification.
I do use DELUXE French vanilla from TFA in some of my recipes at the minimum amount I can get away with due to the fact that they do contain such substances..
Any help on this?
http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/flavorsworkshop/custard.html
A quote from the above posted link:
Pretty much by definition, a vanilla custard flavor, no matter who makes it, will have both acetoin and acetyl propionyl (or diacetyl) in it. Just like it would be hard to bake a cinnamon cookie with no cinnamon, it would be really hard (pretty much impossible) to create a vanilla custard flavor with no acetoin or acetyl propionyl (or diacetyl).
STEVO's site even goes so far as to say his has no diacetly in it.Im not saying what he states is wrong in any manner.
But posters in this thread talk about custard type ingredients which I have been led to believe contain diacetyl/acetyl.This includes vanilla custard from capellas,or DELUXE french vanilla from TFA,which linda states has diacetyl type componenets.This always,(I believed) included "BUTTER" type flavors..
Not trying to argue in any way,just would like to have some clarification.
I do use DELUXE French vanilla from TFA in some of my recipes at the minimum amount I can get away with due to the fact that they do contain such substances..
Any help on this?
http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/flavorsworkshop/custard.html
A quote from the above posted link:
Pretty much by definition, a vanilla custard flavor, no matter who makes it, will have both acetoin and acetyl propionyl (or diacetyl) in it. Just like it would be hard to bake a cinnamon cookie with no cinnamon, it would be really hard (pretty much impossible) to create a vanilla custard flavor with no acetoin or acetyl propionyl (or diacetyl).
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k3vin, the statement at TFA is a bit on the alarmist side, IMO. Most flavoring manufacturers have eliminated diacetyl from their products entirely at this point. Elements that may catalyze into trace amounts of diacetyl may remain (acetoin, etc.), and it's up to the individual to decide whether or not trace elements of anything in their ejuice is cause for concern. Personally, I'm not worried about trace amounts of diacetyl that may (or just as likely may not) result from acetoin/acetyl. I'm sure there are also trace amounts of bacteria in a lot of the juice we vape. Hell, the FDA even permits trace amounts of rat feces in some food products. 
So yeah, I really love TFA and will always buy Linda's wonderful products, and I sincerely appreciate her efforts to include relevant warnings for vapers, but the whole acetyl/acetoin thing just doesn't worry me enough to only buy my flavorings from TFA...
Y M M V ! ! ! (all caps!)
So yeah, I really love TFA and will always buy Linda's wonderful products, and I sincerely appreciate her efforts to include relevant warnings for vapers, but the whole acetyl/acetoin thing just doesn't worry me enough to only buy my flavorings from TFA...
Y M M V ! ! ! (all caps!)
I was going to offer a more lengthy reply, but retrox has summed up what I wanted to say very well, probably better than I could have said it myself.
I will say that your words of warning are well received here though... at least by me. And I thank you for the link. I found it interesting.
The only thing to add is that it's correct that RTSvapes (if that's who you're refering to when you say "Stevo's site"... otherwise, I have no idea what you mean) has replied to me stating that none of their flavorings contain diacetyl. But, as I've written to somebody else, I'm saavy enough to know that a vendor's claims can not always be trusted as gospel.
The bottom line is there ARE risks, and nobody should fool themselves otherwise. I am nobody's nanny, and certainly not elitist enough to suggest that there are vapers out here too dumb and/or lazy to understand and weigh the risks - who need to be 'protected'. I trust my fellow vapors to do what's right for them, especially when it comes to what they put in their own bodies. It's all about free will and personal responsibility to me.
Vape the VC if you dare, or don't... it's all good.
I will say that your words of warning are well received here though... at least by me. And I thank you for the link. I found it interesting.
The only thing to add is that it's correct that RTSvapes (if that's who you're refering to when you say "Stevo's site"... otherwise, I have no idea what you mean) has replied to me stating that none of their flavorings contain diacetyl. But, as I've written to somebody else, I'm saavy enough to know that a vendor's claims can not always be trusted as gospel.
The bottom line is there ARE risks, and nobody should fool themselves otherwise. I am nobody's nanny, and certainly not elitist enough to suggest that there are vapers out here too dumb and/or lazy to understand and weigh the risks - who need to be 'protected'. I trust my fellow vapors to do what's right for them, especially when it comes to what they put in their own bodies. It's all about free will and personal responsibility to me.
Vape the VC if you dare, or don't... it's all good.
I think I'm going to try and mix this up tonight... going to have to sub something (maybe sweet cream? cheesecake?) for the butter, tho, as it's not in my arsenal just yet. (And of course I want to make this NOW.)
Vego - can you post a screen shot with your most recent revisions?
Why certainly
Here's a 15ml batch with my prefered nic level and nic base. Don't forget to change the values to suit your own preferences, whether it be for nic, nic base or pg/vg ratio. Plus, as always, feel free to play around with the flavors and percentages. Like they say: taste is subjective. (common people, that phrase had to be uttered sooner or later in this thread, right?)
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I would keep in mind that the butter adds a creamy richness that some palettes can discern as being slightly on the salty side. Wherefore the extra sweetner might just complement it well. I certainly find it does. But that's what 3ml batches are for, zeroing in on your particular tastes. I wish for a successful blend for you.
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Can I expect a percentage... considering this solicitation was proffered on my VC thread?
Re: Diacetyl, I agree totally, Vego. For anyone who is concerned about acetyl/acetoin, you can always get TFA's Vanilla Swirl, which contains neither and is quite a reasonable substitute for any VC flavoring I've tried.
And yeah, I'm subscribed to this thread so I can follow the progress here! I'm a huge vanilla fan and probably would never have gotten into DIY to begin with if I could've found a pre-made vanilla juice that satisfied me. Not so much a huge fan of custard, per se, but I'm definitely going to be trying out some of these variations in the near future!
My own vanilla concoction is a mix of 12% Hangsen Vanilla, 3% VZ Bavarian Cream, 2% TFA Malted Milk, and 1% sucralose in a 70/30 10mg base. I've been quite impressed with the Hangsen Vanilla, which seems to have a creamier feel/flavor than other French Vanilla-type flavorings I've tried. After a 2-week steep, it's a pretty sweet and intense "in-your-face" vanilla flavor, not unlike vanilla taffy. I think it'll be better with a higher VG content to cut the flavor and improve mouthfeel a bit. Still experimenting...
And yeah, I'm subscribed to this thread so I can follow the progress here! I'm a huge vanilla fan and probably would never have gotten into DIY to begin with if I could've found a pre-made vanilla juice that satisfied me. Not so much a huge fan of custard, per se, but I'm definitely going to be trying out some of these variations in the near future!
My own vanilla concoction is a mix of 12% Hangsen Vanilla, 3% VZ Bavarian Cream, 2% TFA Malted Milk, and 1% sucralose in a 70/30 10mg base. I've been quite impressed with the Hangsen Vanilla, which seems to have a creamier feel/flavor than other French Vanilla-type flavorings I've tried. After a 2-week steep, it's a pretty sweet and intense "in-your-face" vanilla flavor, not unlike vanilla taffy. I think it'll be better with a higher VG content to cut the flavor and improve mouthfeel a bit. Still experimenting...
Guess who just got in eggnog and butter? That's right, I'm mixing this up over the weekend. Even my sub-par trial is almost all vaped up. Can't wait to taste it the way it was intended!
I couldn't wait, but it does get better over time due to the creamy ones, maybe 4 days was my limit. I've been vaping it every day, it tastes a little better daily.
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