Stop the leakage! This is aggravating.

[Pav]

I've about had it with these 401s. This has been the only PV I've tried so far and after a few months and lots of learning and reading here I thought I had these things down. However, I still seem to be getting huge liquid leaks sometimes. Seems like I'll fill a cart, put it on and it works fine for awhile. I put the PV down and after awhile go to try it again and the liquid seems to have leaked out of the inner cup and into the bigger holder and of course on the first draw I get a huge shot of liquid.

I'm thinking it's because I was resting the 401 in an ashtray when I'm not using it so it's at an angle and the juice leaks out.

Any recomendations on how to stop this from happening or maybe another model that is better at stopping liquid leakage?

NOTE: I'm using the original filler in the carts, manual batteries and 4 hole attys.

 

[Overlord]

Have you tried replacing your cart filler material? If its loosening up from normal usage, it can loose its ability to hold onto the juice.

This is from experience on my wifes. I replace the filler every week or 2, no problems since.

 

[Pav]

I thought of that, but it happened tonight with a brand new cart I just opened and hadn't even refilled yet.

I think if I leave it laying in an angled position with the LED tip pointing down the fluid leaks forward and out into the bigger cart.

 

[Overlord]

Weird to say the least. Do you cut your juice at all?

I cut hers with about 30% glycerin so its more thick than stock juice. Maybe yours is too runny? Grasping at straws here

 

[LoBo]

it could also be the vapor condensing on the inside of the cart walls, happens to me with my 510. blow thru the cart lightly to push the condensation to the atty end of your cart and dab with a paper towel...greatly reduces juice in the mouth

 

[Bjorn Toulouse]

How tight is the fit of the cart?
I no the next bit is of no help but juice pours out of 510 as well (all be it you don't get juice in your mouth, just over your hands and any thing it rests on)

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

What brand is the 401?

 

[emus]

I direct drip M401 with no leaks. Drip 2 drops. Vape till vapor decreases then 2 more drops; repeat. Tailpipe direct drip is the best; cut end off of cart.

 

[Pav]

I'm alternating between carts now, but they fit pretty tight. The new one I just opened yesterday fit well. One is a bit loose.

Weird to say the least. Do you cut your juice at all?

I cut hers with about 30% glycerin so its more thick than stock juice. Maybe yours is too runny? Grasping at straws here

No, don't cut the juice. It's 18mg juice I got from Truesmoker or Litecig. Can't remember. I buy from both.

What brand is the 401?

I'm currently using the manual battery version from Litecig. Is that a brand? I know it has a 4 hole atty.

I direct drip M401 with no leaks. Drip 2 drops. Vape till vapor decreases then 2 more drops; repeat. Tailpipe direct drip is the best; cut end off of cart.

I drip too sometimes, but honestly that's a hassle. I want to be able to fill 4-5 carts up and just switch them as they run out. Never tried cutting the end off carts though.

I think I may be experiencing this now because I've been alternating between vaping and analogs (cut my analog consumption by 75% so far) and now I'm trying to go full vape - no analog. By doing this, I'm vaping a bit, putting it down for awhile and then vaping again. I wasn't doing this before. I would fill a cart and vape till empty.

I'm also wondering if the atty has anything to do with it. The previous attys I had were good, but I just put a new one on (from litecig) and man is it powerful. Right off the bat it made huge vapor and throat hit. Way better than the previous 2 attys I had used. Maybe it's making a lot of build up in the outer cart?

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

I just wondered, because I've never encountered anything like what you describe other than from over full carts (I use Intellicig EVOs, Pilots, EM4s & some generics from Central Trade)

 

[Pav]

I just wondered, because I've never encountered anything like what you describe other than from over full carts (I use Intellicig EVOs, Pilots, EM4s & some generics from Central Trade)

Yeah, I'm trying to make sure I don't overfill. Usually 4-6 drops per cart.

Would those M401s you mention be different than the one I'm using from litecig? I didn't realize there were different designs (except for 2 & 4 hole attys and except for the Sidesho which seems to be 401 based but not interchangeable.)

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

Not so much different designs, more different quality control in the factories.

Maybe try an Intellicig model (by far the best I have) intellicig-USA.com Buy Intellicig EVO Electronic Cigarette by intellicig, The intelligent e-smoking e-cig alternative. (their US distribution)

 

[cyberwolf]

I have to agree that this seems strange. The M401 is the only one that I've had so far that didn't leak and I carry them in my shirt or pants pocket all day, so they end up in various positions. 510s and 901s have leaked. I'd try restuffing, experimenting with varying densities of fiberfill.

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

I have to admit that it was a bit of a learning curve when I started refilling my own carts & I did get "leakage" even when I thought I hadn't overfilled. How long have you been using your 401?

My technique now is to remove the stuffing drop around 6 drips into the cart (about 3/4 full as droppers can give different size drops), replace the stuffing & drip one more drop onto the top of the filler. Since doing this, I haven't had any problems with liquid in my mouth.


As I haven't any experience with litecig, I can't comment on their QC, but from what I've seen here they seem pretty good, which leads me to think it might be down to your filling technique. Have you had the same problem with prefilled carts?

 

[Pav]

I've been using the M401 for over two months now. First with auto batteries and now the manuals. I'm on my 3rd atty.

I've been refilling my carts by just dripping into them with the original stuffing still in there then push it around with the paperclip to make sure it goes in and absorbs. Maybe I'll try pulling out the filler then filling like your suggesting. However this happened to me yesterday with a brand new prefilled cart I had just opened.

I'm still experimenting. I guess if I'm going to use these all the time in place of analogs I just have to get used to all the hassle involved in using them.

 

[emus]

Really not that much hassle for me.
I cut 1 M401 cart 3/4" long.
Tailpipe drip 2 drops.
Take 13 puffs (about same as analog).
Drip 2 drops.
13 puffs.
2 drops...

 

[Angela]

I've never experienced the problems you describe either with the M4xx.

The only times I got liquid in my mouth was either when the cart was over-filled, or in the early days when I trid to 'yank' the draw as you do a cigarette. (PS The pre-filled carts can be overfilled, too)

I leave my e-cig with the LED pointing downwards most of the time, so I really don't think that's your problem.

(I know it's not much positive help, but it can be a help to eliminate problems as well)

Best of luck.

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

or in the early days when I trid to 'yank' the draw as you do a cigarette.

That's a fair point, maybe your actual vaping technique is at fault?

Try slow steady drags.

 

[Pav]

Why can't I reply to this thread with quotes? Weird.

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

Why can't I reply to this thread with quotes? Weird.

I can