Storing new batteries for future use

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Imfallen_Angel

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Knock it off.

This is not the way we speak with fellow members here.

Not sure if this was towards my replies to those that turned this into personal attacks... as I did try to be extremely civil about it.

I've already removed my posts that replied to the personal attacks I had, but in my time here, I've yet to find a way to simply delete a post. Please feel free to remove those posts I've noted.
 

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If you're comfortable opening a mod look inside and see what kind of lipo it has. Once you figure out whether it's 1s or 2s just measure the dimensions and go here: Li-Poly (All brands) > Batteries & Accessories

That website is bulletproof, vapecolypse or not that site will be selling lipos long after whatever the FDA does. Their batteries are in my opinion of much higher quality than anything innokin puts out as well and the selection is big enough to almost guarantee you'll find a suitable replacement. If you need help figuring out what lipo pack you have in there just let me know, you might need to solder the connections which can be a pain but at least you won't be completely without options should something happen to the manufacturer.

Gotta love the helpful comments in this thread, you guys need to chill.

EDIT: Forgot to put this in here, lipo long term storage is best done at 50% or lower charge. A Lipo battery loses about 6% capacity per year stored at 0ºc (32F). If you can charge to 50% and store in a cool place.
 
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If you need help figuring out what lipo pack you have in there just let me know, you might need to solder the connections which can be a pain but at least you won't be completely without options should something happen to the manufacturer.

I considered buying a mod that you could replace batteries in but I love my MVP's so why change :)

Excellent advice... A+++ :thumbs: ... plenty of people know how to solder - I've not seen a mod I can't break.. errr.. I mean take apart.
 

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I just received 2 new MVP3.0 Pro's and want to store them for the future. Do I make sure they are fully charged before storing them? I have 2 that I am now using in rotation which I have had for more than 2 years. They probably still have a lot of life left in them, but with the way things are going I wanted backups. I considered buying a mod that you could replace batteries in but I love my MVP's so why change :)
Thank you for asking this question because it lets me know how to care for the 4 new MVP's I have in my backup box. I think I will end up putting them in my rotation instead of leaving them in the cases they cam in.
 
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Thank you for asking this question because it lets me know how to care for the 4 new MVP's I have in my backup box. I think I will end up putting them in my rotation instead of leaving them in the cases they cam in.
One suggestion (if you aren't doing it already) if you're using multiple mods.. get multiple tanks, different flavours in each, you can switch on the go without having to either empty your tank or vape it out just to be able to switch flavours.
 

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One suggestion (if you aren't doing it already) if you're using multiple mods.. get multiple tanks, different flavours in each, you can switch on the go without having to either empty your tank or vape it out just to be able to switch flavours.
Thanks for the suggestion.(I am doing it already :) ) I usually have at least 7 tanks loaded up with various flavors and each are on their own battery. Maybe that is why I've never worn out the threads on any of my battery holders. :D
 

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Thank you for asking this question because it lets me know how to care for the 4 new MVP's I have in my backup box. I think I will end up putting them in my rotation instead of leaving them in the cases they cam in.
If you have in addition mods with replaceable batteries, by all means use MVPs first. If all your mods are with built in batteries, just store spare ones without using them.
 

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Thanks for the suggestion.(I am doing it already :) ) I usually have at least 7 tanks loaded up with various flavors and each are on their own battery. Maybe that is why I've never worn out the threads on any of my battery holders. :D
Awesome!

I tried so many tanks and set myself with just a few myself after ensuring that I'd enjoy them. I went and decided on Eleaf for most of my hardware now, inexpensive, works fantastic. And using both cartridge coils (that I rebuild) or RTAs.

As I started DIY (liquids) a while back, I simply had to go with drippers (RDAs) for testing, and again, researched and got a few, settled on what I enjoyed the most (the full glass types)... so now I end up in front of the TV at times, with my box of bottles and drip one flavour after another. My poor living room is like a rock concert stage after a while, but it's so much fun. (and I do this with my wife as an easy going activity)

I have my multiple mods (and yes, I do have a sealed one still) charged and ready on my vape-central desk and simply grab one and go.
 
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If you have in addition mods with replaceable batteries, by all means use MVPs first. If all your mods are with built in batteries, just store spare ones without using them.
Thank you AT. I have some of both and yes, I feel it is best to use the built in battery mods first. I haven't used the 4 new MVP's yet but do open them up every couple of months to check the charge on them. So far they are holding steady at the 3.8 charge they came with.
 

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Just to throw this out there and further muddy the waters, but on your 18650 mods and battery rotation, that works for your single cell mods. With mods using 2 or more batteries your rotation would be with another set of paired batteries. I have a few singles hanging out in the drawer (in silicone sleeves) for my single battery mods, and a plastic battery box with a polygamous threesome for my triple battery mod. It's not like using three random batteries will make your mod blow up, but rather the mod will be limited by the weakest battery in the set. Keeping them paired, discharged together and charged together will help assure consistent performance. YMMV.
 
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Just to throw this out there and further muddy the waters, but on your 18650 mods and battery rotation, that works for your single cell mods. With mods using 2 or more batteries your rotation would be with another set of paired batteries. I have a few singles hanging out in the drawer (in silicone sleeves) for my single battery mods, and a plastic battery box with a polygamous threesome for my triple battery mod. It's not like using three random batteries will make your mod blow up, but rather the mod will be limited by the weakest battery in the set. Keeping them paired, discharged together and charged together will help assure consistent performance. YMMV.

hmm.. agreed, when it comes any device that takes any type of batteries, you should always match (married set) your batteries.

To elaborate on your point, this is so that they are as close to being at the same level of life as possible, you charge them together, you use them together, and this lets them discharge at the same rate.

For 18650 (or any lithium base), it's even more important due to their volatility. Mods/vaping is actually pretty hard on batteries.

It's the reason why you NEED high discharge types, if you'd use the regular types (as per for flashlights for example), the Amps being pulled with quite certainly cause an overload and instant venting of those type of batteries.

With an unmarried set, the older batteries will not have the same discharge rate and will cause an unbalanced pull on the other batteries, with can actually cause some harm, as it will put more stress on these batteries.

And regardless if you have a mod that runs in parallel or in series this will have an impact on the stress given to these batteries.

This applies to any batteries, such as why any device (anything that takes batteries) will have clear instructions to never mix old and new, alkaline and rechargeables.

I do have to correct you on one thing, should the difference be drastic enough, such as someone using a dead (under 3V) with a fully charged one in a mech mod in series, actually, you could end up with a boom, the dead battery will vent, could overheat drastically and cause the other battery to do the same, but with full power.
 

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I do have to correct you on one thing, should the difference be drastic enough, such as someone using a dead (under 3V) with a fully charged one in a mech mod in series, actually, you could end up with a boom, the dead battery will vent, could overheat drastically and cause the other battery to do the same, but with full power.

Agreed. I didn't intend for it to sound like an imbalance such as a dead battery would be good for use in a multi-battery setup. Thanks for clarifying to avoid any misinterpretation.
 

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Agreed. I didn't intend for it to sound like an imbalance such as a dead battery would be good for use in a multi-battery setup. Thanks for clarifying to avoid any misinterpretation.

No problem, I was sure that you meant exactly that, but in case someone that isn't aware might not have known about it and aren't aware of that info.

If there's one thing that I do want to absolutely reinforce with any newbie is how freaking important the safety protocols to take and to have absolute respect for lithium batteries such as the 18650... when you see one of them vent on you, it's a serious eye opener. They are quite the firecrackers that one should never underestimate and should treat with the utmost respect.

My vent story is stupid.. a slightly damage wrap, as I was placing it inside my regulated mod, it caught on the contact pin, just enough to rip enough of the wrap, expose the contacts, and short out. And as fast as I pulled the battery out, it vented, the liquid poured out of it, was very hot, and fried my mod... in a split second. And that was with being careful, but not realizing that the tiniest damage to the wrap would be enough for an accident.(and the first thing I did, was come here and ask about what had happened, and checked with the experts at one of my local stores)

I rewrap my batteries now, no matter how tiny the damage to the wrap is.
 
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Lithium ion batteries begin to decompose as soon as they are made. Nothing can stop this. You could buy a battery and never use it. 2 years later, or whenever, you'll find it will not function.
I think you are too pessimistic. I do not really know how long is shelf life, but definitely more than 2 years.
 

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I think you are too pessimistic. I do not really know how long is shelf life, but definitely more than 2 years.
That's why I included the "or whenever" part. Each battery is different. I have, however, had to replace some two way radio batteries in less than 2 years.

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It's how they're stored that has a huge impact on how long they'll last. If they're stored in an uncontrolled environment that gets warm, the shelf life will be a lot shorter than if they were stored in the refrigerator or freezer.

How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University
 
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