Sub-ohm...no looking back?

[BeerGolfClouds]

Hello fellow vapers! I'm wondering how many of you have experienced what I have concerning sub-ohm vaping.

I haven't touched an analog for exactly one year. My vaping journey began with an ego battery and a vivi nova topper. Through lots of experimentation and a ton of help from this forum, I found my way to rebuildables and the sub-ohm world. As of now, my sweet spot is between 0.2 and 0.3 ohms for dripping, and anything over .9 on my kfl+ just doesn't cut it.

Anyone else out there that just can't bring themselves to jump over one measly ohm? FWIW I only use mechs, I've stocked up for the vapeocalypse and don't want to spend $$$ on a DNA or similar device that "may" provide a similar vape using > 1 ohm coils.

 

[Jdbaker82]

why do you always need big clouds when you vape? I enjoy it every once in awhile but really do u really need clouds 100% of the time? Permanent vapers tounge?

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[sawtoothscream]

on a mech I like .6 area. over that it just feels dull to me. Now on a regulated device you can get some good vape as well. Made a 1.7ohm twisted 32ga micro coil on a 5/64 drill bite and that puppy hit like a champ on my z max set to 6v. but the mod is about twice the size of my mech set up so i rather just use the mech.

 

[sawtoothscream]

why do you always need big clouds when you vape? I enjoy it every once in awhile but really do u really need clouds 100% of the time? Permanent vapers tounge?

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All about the flavor and throat hit for me. The higher ohm set ups just lack IMO unless they are on a regulated device.

 

[BeerGolfClouds]

why do you always need big clouds when you vape? I enjoy it every once in awhile but really do u really need clouds 100% of the time? Permanent vapers tounge?

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It's not cloud issue at all, it's the warmth and flavor I experience. I typically take small pulls, 10 drops at a time will last me over 10 pulls on my device. If someone asks me to cloud a room in the proper setting I will (on occasion), but that isn't my deal.

 

[Unforeseen]

Moved to Assorted PV Topics - Rebuildable Atomizer Systems

 

[dbrandt01]

I just moved back to an iTaste V3 from my mechanical mod at .32 ohms. It's not the clouds for me. I do 1-2 second lung hits to avoid clouds when I'm not alone. It's the taste. I can have the same juice in a protank and same juice on my mech mod and on the mod it's beyond better tasting. While at the same thought. Above .5 ohms I feel the flavor diminishes as well

 

[BeerGolfClouds]

on a mech I like .6 area. over that it just feels dull to me. Now on a regulated device you can get some good vape as well. Made a 1.7ohm twisted 32ga micro coil on a 5/64 drill bite and that puppy hit like a champ on my z max set to 6v. but the mod is about twice the size of my mech set up so i rather just use the mech.

I do have a Vamo V5, and I agree on the size issue. Last time I used it I built a 1.2 ohm twisted 30ga microcoil on my kfl+ and ran it at the 15w limit...just took too long to heat up and felt like I was wielding a lightsaber. The Vamo sits in the corner now waiting for a PIF opportunity.

 

[MrPlink]

Im back and forth.
I kinda went the other way once I got my DNA clone.
I RARELY would build under .5 so 30w was perfect for me.

Didnt change my builds much when I first got the DNA clone but more recently I figured why not build higher impedance and have a wider range of adjustable power?

Well then I found the answer: while a 1ohm coil being driven to 30w is fine and dandy, when swapped to a mech it was rather lacking.

 

[ukeman]

Got you Beer, it must be the golf that directs you to clouds?

sorry, a little fun with your username...

I have been vaping sub ohms for a couple years now, starting with Genesis atomizers, and now strictly RDA, RDAtanks...
I've settled on .4 to .6 ohms but only after thoroughly working my way down (the "conventional" way?)... heheh.

Do you vape a dual coil setup ? I've found that most duals and drippers have less taste than a single, but there's so many different styles of atomizers these days that's probably more than I want to comment on tonight.

What I do want to say is that regulated devices that you speak of, while yes, a bit expensive, are not much more if that than a decent mech tube device.

AND, I had given up on anything regulated under 30w for the same reason (not to mention 30w and a single 18650 will not last an hour for me).

Still, I was charging 4 to 6 18650 hi drain batts a day easy (vaping way too much 4mg nic juice too).

Lately I found Raptor chip boxes (up to 100 watts - never use them all; I stick to around 4v) with 2 18650 boxes... what a luxury.
If you build your own (see Mamu and Raptor chips) the cost is peanuts, and they sell for around $200 +.
I have 2 and I vape about 15 to 20 ml of juice a day without changing a batt.

 

[westonG]

why do you always need big clouds when you vape? I enjoy it every once in awhile but really do u really need clouds 100% of the time? Permanent vapers tounge?

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Yes. Yes, i do always like big clouds actually, and as long as you change up the flavor often enough you wont get vapers tounge.. Everyone i show and introduce to mechanical mods are always so amazed by what a .25-.3ohm build produces and i get to explain all the aspects of this type of vaping to them.. But that is just me and im pretty much just a cloud chaser

 

[brianc11111]

i only vape sub-ohm in the .3-.6 range in tanks.. usually dual coils.... .2-.4 in rda's.
i like the clouds sure...but the warmth, instananeous hit is what gets me. anything more than .7 just doesnt cut the mustard.
i use mechs and go through batteries like hankerchiefs. i have chargers with me everywhere i go.
i hit a 1.2 ohm i had laying around the other day and it was LAME.
i know if i slowly went back up the ohms ladder, id get re-used to it.....but im not going back up there.
like it down at the bottom ohms levels too much

 

[westonG]

i only vape sub-ohm in the .3-.6 range in tanks.. usually dual coils.... .2-.4 in rda's.
i like the clouds sure...but the warmth, instananeous hit is what gets me. anything more than .7 just doesnt cut the mustard.
i use mechs and go through batteries like hankerchiefs. i have chargers with me everywhere i go.
i hit a 1.2 ohm i had laying around the other day and it was LAME.
i know if i slowly went back up the ohms ladder, id get re-used to it.....but im not going back up there.
like it down at the bottom ohms levels too much

Dude I completely agree. I just couldnt word it the way you did. But so so true. anything above .5 is too boring and takes way too long to heat up. You should look into a 26650, i switched about a week ago and couldnt be happier, when i vape at work im forced to take "smoke breaks" and take one an hour for about 10-15 mins chain vaping and my battery lasts about 9 breaks which is 2 and a half hours vape time, compared to about 45mins to an hour vape time with 18650 batts... just putting that out there

 

[ukeman]

I like how this thread is absent the accusations of insanity worse; death by batt mod... lol not to mention "its a phase, and it gives vaping a bad name".

Not that safety is not an issue of course it is, but we couldn't post a thread about sub ohms (anything under 1 ohms) without stirring a whole mess of whoop asss. But like i thought, SO vaping is here to stay.

Funny this thread is put in the RBA sub forum, seems to me its more about the APV... but then again, you can't have SO without an atomizer.

What I'll repeat for the OP, regulated PVs are coming back around... for sub ohms vaping, and its not the DNA30 but we need at least 40 or 50+ w devices (and big batt capacity ).

Hmm that reminds me I have to get a better switch spring for my 26650 tube, for sub ohms.

And oh yeah, for me its the fast response time, great flavor (given good wicking, and efficient air) and yes, lots of clouds
After selling at least a doz. "good" mechs, I still have a doz. 18650 mech tubes, but I've got 2 100w double 18650 Raptor boxes, and a 26650 tube mech that get 90% of the play time.
I go through about 20ml of 4mg nic juice a day... (mostly DIY).

 

[WattWick]

I stick to my 0.7-0.9 ohm builds on gennies. Going lower doesn't add anything to my enjoyment. I am all for flavor, but still I dilute my flavors more than (I believe) most people. I'm more about purity of flavor than flavor that sticks to your mouth and throat after you've stopped vaping.

What I find slightly odd is very low sub-ohming with pure VG juices "for the throat hit and flavor". VG has very little throat hit and carries flavor pretty poorly. I think the same (or even better?) sensation of both flavor and TH can be achieved by barking up different trees.

Just a personal preference and an opinion.

 

[ukeman]

I have heard forever that PG would carry more flavor, and lots of store bought juices and DIY reflect that... but things have changed lately.

I'll have to go back and find the comments in DIY sub forums that talk about the an analysis of why the opposite is a valid case.

Also if you look at most juice vendors today, making new juices, they are heavy on VG.
I think the VG trend is due to popularity of sub ohming, (and the fact that lots of folks have reactions to PG) but got to admit they are good tasting juices.

In my DIY juices today, i virtually eliminate PG.

 

[Jdbaker82]

It's not cloud issue at all, it's the warmth and flavor I experience. I typically take small pulls, 10 drops at a time will last me over 10 pulls on my device. If someone asks me to cloud a room in the proper setting I will (on occasion), but that isn't my deal.

So you just want a warm vape nothing else because it doesn't need to be warm to get flavor....

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[Dayglow]

I went down to 0.5 for a long while but now that I can get a regulated device to fire 25+ watts I don't need super subohm. I am happier with a 0.9 or 1.2 coil run at 20W than I was with a 0.5 ohm on a mech. Not to say I don't still use low ohm setups, but I just don't use them as much.

 

[Jdbaker82]

Yes. Yes, i do always like big clouds actually, and as long as you change up the flavor often enough you wont get vapers tounge.. Everyone i show and introduce to mechanical mods are always so amazed by what a .25-.3ohm build produces and i get to explain all the aspects of this type of vaping to them.. But that is just me and im pretty much just a cloud chaser

Well I hope I don't ever feel the need to do this... I can't imagine driving around in my car all day and taking a dripper out when I leave the house etc

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[B2L]

I had found a nice vape with a .8 in a Kayfun, now using bottom fed RDAs on a REO my sweet spot is .4. I'm not a cloud chaser, although I do like nice thick clouds, but the warmth, throat hit and flavor is outstanding. I've tried a buddy's Kayfun at 1.8 and it isn't bad, it's just not great.