Subtank Mini - burnt/dry hits ONLY with 1.2 and 1.5 vertical OCC's?

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So I just got my other subtank mini (newest black version) a couple of days ago and also ordered an extra 1.2 and 1.5 vertical OCC heads. I started using the .5 vertical OCC that came with it and have absolutely no problems at all with it. The problems start only when I use the 1.2 and 1.5 ohm heads, I get that nasty dry burnt taste no matter what wattage I am vaping at (even as low as 15). The first couple hits are usually ok but then if I hit the vape more, I repeatedly get the burnt/dry nasty hit. This only happens with the 1.5 and 1.2 ohm heads. Does anyone else have the same problem? I even tried putting extra juice on the cotton and coils before I use it to no avail, constant dry/burnt taste after another. Never happens with the .5 ohm heads though. I'm using an istick 50w to run the subtank mini which I'm sure doesn't matter, thanks for your help and advice in advance.
 

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They usually put too much cotton in them, I have used the vertical but switched back to the the original horizontal coils and rewick them with a bit less cotton, there's tonnes of guides out there showing how to rewick/rebuild them...

I haven't bought coils since june other than the verticals to test out, I've just been rebuilding them and it works better than factory coils, I am currently vaping on a .7 ohm coil @ 32.5w, flavor is much better as well but tends to drink quite a bit more juice.

Make sure you prime them and let them sit a good 20-30 mins before using them as the juice takes time to seep into that dense cotton. Also reduce your wattage for the first few hits, just remember those coils aren't for lung hits trying to do so or even a really long mtl with burn it.
 
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I have no experience with the the new vertical coils, but I had no end of problems with the original horizontal OCC coils. The QC on the OCC heads is unreliable at best. The main issue is usually that they just don't wick as well as most people want them to, hence dry hits.
I started using the rebuild-able section, and after a bit of tweaking it has become part of my every day vape ever since. This gives you full control over both the resistance and design of the coil, but also the wicking which is vital to a good vape. You will also save money as a well built coil will potentially last months as long as you re-wick regularly and dry burn the coil to remove the gunk.

This is for the V1 ST Mini, but the principle is essentially the same. If you search for wicking technique for the V2 I'm sure you will also find some good tutorials.

 

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I have no experience with the the new vertical coils, but I had no end of problems with the original horizontal OCC coils. The QC on the OCC heads is unreliable at best. The main issue is usually that they just don't wick as well as most people want them to, hence dry hits.
I started using the rebuild-able section, and after a bit of tweaking it has become part of my every day vape ever since. This gives you full control over both the resistance and design of the coil, but also the wicking which is vital to a good vape. You will also save money as a well built coil will potentially last months as long as you re-wick regularly and dry burn the coil to remove the gunk.

This is for the V1 ST Mini, but the principle is essentially the same. If you search for wicking technique for the V2 I'm sure you will also find some good tutorials.



Thanks! I am going to learn this now. Can't trust these new occ wicks at all.
 

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The new .5 Vertical coils have performed perfectly for me every time up to 35 watts. The old horizontal coils as well at 27.5 watts.

The higher ohm coils just do not seem to perform very well... they either flooded or gave dry hits. I have only used the ones that arrived free with subtanks kits. I think this tank performs better at sub ohm vaping. I believe the above ohm coils are more on an afterthought.
 

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The new .5 Vertical coils have performed perfectly for me every time up to 35 watts. The old horizontal coils as well at 27.5 watts.

The higher ohm coils just do not seem to perform very well... they either flooded or gave dry hits. I have only used the ones that arrived free with subtanks kits. I think this tank performs better at sub ohm vaping. I believe the above ohm coils are more on an afterthought.

Yeah for me its the opposite, problems with the low ones. Seems to be a general lack of QC from Kanger?
 

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Part of the issue with the higher ohm vertical coils is the holes for the juice to feed through are a lot smaller. I haven't measured them, but looks to be almost half the size of the .5 coils.

I don't subohm, but have no issue with the rebuild head at 1.5 ohm.
 
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Yeah i never go for the 1.2 and 1.5's. it's less airflow, less vapor, less satisfying. Stick with the .5 they usually last me a good week or 2

Thats Ok if you do direct lung-hits or cloud-chasing but I got fed up with that and just wanted to get back to M/L vaping, less hassle etc. The old style 1.2 and 1.5 was perfect, plenty of flavour, no leaks, nothing. Then they changed it to these OCC Japanese cotton.

However I can now get a steady supply of the older model coils at Fasttech, so problem gone! yipeeee!
 

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I find that the Subtank tends to run on the hotter side. I had coil burning problems just as others reported above. I then started using the RBA with my own coils sized and wicked for MTL vaping (about 1.8 ohms). I still got burning even when running at 13-15W, using the two smallest air holes. Then, using the very same coil (with a new wick, of course) with the "cylon" air hole open, I get no burning at all, just great flavor. But, I have to lung hit the thing due to all open air flow and to keep the coil cool enough to not burn the wick. By comparison, I routinely run my Nautilus up to 18W without any burning at all. So, I don't get why the Subtank seems to run so much hotter.
 

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Thats Ok if you do direct lung-hits or cloud-chasing but I got fed up with that and just wanted to get back to M/L vaping, less hassle etc. The old style 1.2 and 1.5 was perfect, plenty of flavour, no leaks, nothing. Then they changed it to these OCC Japanese cotton.

However I can now get a steady supply of the older model coils at Fasttech, so problem gone! yipeeee!

Yup still have a few laying around. i use them for when i vape my strong cinnamon because they permanently taste like it.
 

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I find that the Subtank tends to run on the hotter side. I had coil burning problems just as others reported above. I then started using the RBA with my own coils sized and wicked for MTL vaping (about 1.8 ohms). I still got burning even when running at 13-15W, using the two smallest air holes. Then, using the very same coil (with a new wick, of course) with the "cylon" air hole open, I get no burning at all, just great flavor. But, I have to lung hit the thing due to all open air flow and to keep the coil cool enough to not burn the wick. By comparison, I routinely run my Nautilus up to 18W without any burning at all. So, I don't get why the Subtank seems to run so much hotter.

I have a similar issue...my subtank gets kinda warm (especially at the delrin tip) so I cannot get past 30W. I pretty much threw away the premade 1.5 ohm and 0.5 ohm coils because they gave me a burnt taste. I had a much better vape with the RBA but I was careful not to over wick and fluffed the ends before tucking them down the chimney walls. Problem solved. No more burnt taste, more vapor, and runnin okay at 18-20W.
 

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I've got the Arctic tank and run it on 0.5 ohm coils. Never had a dry hit. Typically lasting at least 4 weeks at 36 watts with 7 to 10 ml of juice going through it a day. Just thought I would share this in case you thought about changing tanks. The Arctic is spot on and I only paid 20 quid for it.
Vape on.
 

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Thats Ok if you do direct lung-hits or cloud-chasing but I got fed up with that and just wanted to get back to M/L vaping, less hassle etc. The old style 1.2 and 1.5 was perfect, plenty of flavour, no leaks, nothing. Then they changed it to these OCC Japanese cotton.

However I can now get a steady supply of the older model coils at Fasttech, so problem gone! yipeeee!

Pick up an Aspire (little one) BVC 1.8Ω coil, you might be pleasantly surprised.


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