I am looking for some advice on type/brand of clearomizer to use when vaping in below zero conditions. It seems that all of the clearomizers I have (iclear 16, Protant III, Kanger Evod, X.Jet, Kanger T3S) leak in below zero conditions. The colder it is the worse it leaks. I was ice fishing on a -30 day and had two tanks full inside of my jacket to try and keep them warm, by the end of the day they were both completely empty due to leakage. What I think is happening is the gaskets are shrinking in cold weather, even on a day that is -2 I get leaking its just not as bad. I am quitting smoking March 1 so it would be nice if I could figure out how to take my vaping with me in the cold weather.
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Saw another post about this. Not sure where it is though. ny who, the suggestions there were to keep things in a pouch with a hand warmer. They said like a fleece pouch with the hand warmer outside the pouch but directly touching it. They seemed to think the issue of leakage was more that the viscosity and vacuum changes. I have only experienced when going from outside for long periods into the warm house. If I don't take a drag for about half hour I get horrible gurgle in any tank I have tried.
If I know I'm going to be outside a lot I bring my kit with me it has every thing I need to vape
In the cold I will use a ce5 this one seams to leak the least in the cold but it may still leak a little ?
I always keep a kit on hand you just never know what you may need.
Better safe then sad lol
Best wishes
In the cold I will use a ce5 this one seams to leak the least in the cold but it may still leak a little ?
I always keep a kit on hand you just never know what you may need.
Better safe then sad lol
Best wishes
You should try a dripping atomizer. KP Long Barrel Sealed Atomizer - Kidney Puncher
It is the liquid itself that is affected by the cold, not the tank. These liquids are quite sensitive to extreme temperatures, they will absolutely break down and thin out in subzero conditions. If you can find a way to keep the liquid at room temps in those conditions, you shouldn't have problems.
they leaked out because you topped them off and the
warmth of your body thinned them out.
they flooded your coil chamber and out the air hole.
i use iclear16's and i only top them to 2 marks below the full
line.flooding issues 100% gone.
regards
mike
warmth of your body thinned them out.
they flooded your coil chamber and out the air hole.
i use iclear16's and i only top them to 2 marks below the full
line.flooding issues 100% gone.
regards
mike
Is the ce5 a clearomizer?
Do the dripping atomizers have a better system for containing the liquid? I am just wondering why Foodacris is thinking they might work better. I have been paying attention to the way clearomizers are made as far as gasket placement and where pieces are threaded. I just got a new tank that seems different than all of the tanks I have. It is the Aspire BDC, it is fully glass, threaded at the mouthpiece and the base and the gaskets have a bit of a different placement. Hoping this one might work out better for me.
I wouldn't be able to keep the liquid at room temps, the handwarmers would be a pricey way to smoke outside all the time.
Skoony are you saying that as long as you keep the liquid below the point where the wicks go into the coil it wont leak? In that case something like the iclear 16 will be better for subzero vaping than all of my higher quality bottom coil clearomizers I have since its impossible to not have the coild submerged in those ones? This is interesting and makes perfect sense, basically as long as I keep it upright it shouldn't leak.
Do the dripping atomizers have a better system for containing the liquid? I am just wondering why Foodacris is thinking they might work better. I have been paying attention to the way clearomizers are made as far as gasket placement and where pieces are threaded. I just got a new tank that seems different than all of the tanks I have. It is the Aspire BDC, it is fully glass, threaded at the mouthpiece and the base and the gaskets have a bit of a different placement. Hoping this one might work out better for me.
I wouldn't be able to keep the liquid at room temps, the handwarmers would be a pricey way to smoke outside all the time.
Skoony are you saying that as long as you keep the liquid below the point where the wicks go into the coil it wont leak? In that case something like the iclear 16 will be better for subzero vaping than all of my higher quality bottom coil clearomizers I have since its impossible to not have the coild submerged in those ones? This is interesting and makes perfect sense, basically as long as I keep it upright it shouldn't leak.
The problem is the liquid in a BCC is held in place by a partial vacuum. You have that air space on top of the liquid, and the point of air entering the system at the very bottom. When you expose the air space to extremes in hot and cold that air space contracts with the cold and then expands when you warm it up again... and there you go. Or rather there goes your liquid - being pushed out the bottom of the coil assembly by the expanding air in the tank as it warms up.
There is no solution for this. You really need to move to a top coil design - even though I hate to recommend those - or a carto tank to eliminate the outdoor problem.
There is no solution for this. You really need to move to a top coil design - even though I hate to recommend those - or a carto tank to eliminate the outdoor problem.
There's nothing to go wrong in a dripper. If there's juice on the wick and heat on the coil you're gonna be able to vape.
I am not sure if I would want to drip in sub zero conditions. That would require removing gloves and whatnot, not fun.
The posters above have a point though, drippers will not suffer the problems that your tanks will. With that in mind, you could try a genesis style atomizer instead of a full fledged dripper. The bottom of gennys are completely sealed, so no opportunity for leaking. Instead of having to drip you can just tilt the atomizer.
Of course, whether dripper or genesis, your going to have to learn to rebuild if you havent already.
Another option would be a cartotank, it would possibly have less leaking issues than the clearos.
The posters above have a point though, drippers will not suffer the problems that your tanks will. With that in mind, you could try a genesis style atomizer instead of a full fledged dripper. The bottom of gennys are completely sealed, so no opportunity for leaking. Instead of having to drip you can just tilt the atomizer.
Of course, whether dripper or genesis, your going to have to learn to rebuild if you havent already.
Another option would be a cartotank, it would possibly have less leaking issues than the clearos.
thanks a lot for the help everyone, I am learning so much from this forum. I'm not quite at the point where i'm ready to step up and get into rebuilding with the genesis or the dripper but I am going to look into the top coil units for this winter. At the very least I have a better understanding of why the liquid is leaking.
Use a dripper... It might be a PITA to drip in the beginning... But then you will get used to it and learn just how troublefree it really is... No leaks, no gurgles no DOG DAMMIT MY TANK BROKE!... Worst thing that have happened to me was a driptip that broke when i dropped the mod :/
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M16 helio 0,35
Galileo helio/chimbus 0,5/0,4
Bolt carto tank
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M16 helio 0,35
Galileo helio/chimbus 0,5/0,4
Bolt carto tank
Vamo vivi/protank
Kts+ igo-w 0,7
I can't imagine trying to drip out in sub-zero cold. My fingers get numb just thinking about it.
While not as cold here as the OPs situation, we were sub-zero many days and my carto tank and iClear16 worked out pretty well in the cold.
I wonder if bottom coils could work if carried upside down to allow air pressure changes to work through the wick area. I've been meaning to try that, but I need to work out an easy way to ensure they stay vertical, instead of the helter skelter way I carry stuff now.
Well it can be done with gloves on... I usually hoæd the driptip with my teeth and then just drip in a single stream (nopes not drops) and with some training its pretty easy
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M16 helio 0,35
Galileo helio/chimbus 0,5/0,4
Bolt carto tank
Vamo vivi/protank
Kts+ igo-w 0,7
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