Super Easy DIY Method

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Super Easy DIY Method

A bunch of ppl have followed the directions for this in my Newbies thread and told me they love it as much as I do now so I figured I'd post a new thread and explain it a little better and maybe update some of the links.

So this is the absolute simplest, easiest way to get started w/ DIY juice, it's super cheap (about 20 cents a day to vape as much as you want) and could not be easier. You only need 3 things to do this - nicotine base, flavor and an empty bottle. That's it.

Basically, instead of buying condensed nicotine and diluting it w/ PG or VG , calculating the measurements, etc all you have to do is buy pre-made nic base at the same mg you normally vape and add flavor. For example, I vape 12mg so I buy a 215ml bottle of this - http://www.ecigexpress.com/nicotine...flavored-e-liquid-nicotine-select-size-p-1479

Here's the link for all strengths - http://www.ecigexpress.com/nicotine-bases-1mg-24mg-bases-c-43_49_100
Lots of other sites have this kind of base btw - RTS, Wizard Labs, etc - but I like ecx cuz it's cheap, clear/clean and I can get the flavors and bottles at the same time.

Once you have your base all you need to do is add condensed flavor - http://www.ecigexpress.com/diy-flavoring-c-16
My favorite company is Flavour Art from Italy btw, they have the best flavors imo - I have yet to get one I didn't like enough to finish the bottle. They tell you it's super condensed stuff which it is but don't go thinking 1 drop will taint an entire 30ml bottle of base. Personally I like to start w/ a little 5ml bottle of base and add 5 drops, take a whiff and add more till it smells good, drip a drop into my 306 and go from there. If I like it I just multiply the # of drops I added to make a bigger bottle. So for ex if 8 drops is perfect into 5ml, a 30ml bottle = 48 drops. Here's a good juice calculator if you wanna get all technical about it, imo it's more fun just to wing it like cooking - essentially just add to taste - http://www.ecigexpress.com/ejuice-calculator.php

You can also buy empty bottles from ecx - http://www.ecigexpress.com/diy-supplies-empty-bottles-c-43_44
My advice is get at least 10 of various sizes, you'll need em...personally I like the 30ml size plastic ones and I have a couple 60ml and a few 30ml blue glass ones for my favs. You can get a syringe from there too btw, I bought one but never use it cuz nic base it very thick and takes forever to fill up a syringe so I tend to mix 30ml size bottles by just dumping the stuff straight into the bottle and adding/measuring flavor by dripping directly from the bottle (FA flavors all have dropper tops).

btw I vape 50/50 but if you like 70/30 for ex obviously you'd just buy 120ml of PG and 120ml of VG and figure out the percentage to ml conversion and then use a syringe to measure

That's it, easiest thing in the world and not only will it save you at least $40 a week over buying from a vendor but it'll be some of the best juice you've had cuz you can tweak it to your taste plus you know when you order something like oba oba you're getting the original Flavour Art flavor and not some cheap knockoff (also, making crazy concoctions is way too much fun and can produce some really good stuff - my fav is hypnotic mist, oba oba and royal tobacco - it's like fruity, vanilla-tinted tobacco w/ exotic undertones...love it).

Also, I'll just add my take on steeping - If a juice you mix is terrible most likely it will improve w/ time but chances are it'll never be really good. Steeping serves to enhance and blend flavors so a freshly mixed juice that's pretty good can become amazing w/ just a couple weeks of steeping but a bad juice will only ever get marginally better, at least that's my experience anyway. If you don't know what steeping is - http://nu-vapor.com/forum/diy-liquids/12975-steeping-e-juice-explained.html

Hope that was all easily understandable, the vendors will hate me for this but I hate them for taking all my $ for the first 2 months so I guess we're even...

Enjoy, get your juice on, happy vaping, etc. :D
 
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This works well for e too except a few flavors can be deceptive when doing the sniffing and some are ultra concentrate and others are more prone to chemical interactions that change the flavor more than average after steeping. They are exceptions to the sniff rule of thumb. To address everything but the chemical changes that sometimes happen after steeping it can help to mix up some solo flavors to smell/ taste in atty ahead of time then mix these together for multiple flavor DIY.
Example
Coconut solo
Key lime solo
Lychee solo

Then mix againfor taste and ready to go. Can always add a title bit EM or malty or Bavarian Creme to taste later.
It IS just play and For people who do well with and are comfortable with loose and free style. I am but everybody is different and they can't do this at e juice retail level. Another thing that makes sooo DIY! Own it. It's yours!
 
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Excellent. This is close to how I thought about proceeding. It's very handy to have directions in a single thread like this for begginer, DIY mix-master's. When most people start with e-cigs, they are more concerned with getting the proper hardware that works for them. I thought it would be good to sample vendors juices to develop my tastebuds and get a sense of what I like before stricking out on my own. I could spend almost as much in flavorings as I did in hardware otherwise. Sure enough, I discovered I liked sweeter and lighter juices than I expected. Not everyone progresses on to DIY juice, but everyone needs to have working hardare they are comfortable with.

Do you know how long flavorings last - how they can be stored? I imagine experation dates and taking notes might be helpful.
 
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It may not be "the best one in this forum" but it sure is the most helpful to this Newbie. I've looked at other DIY threads, and thought there's no way I could do all of that and get it right...this thread actually has made me realize that I really think I can do this!! Having to figure up how much PG/VG and all of that other stuff was way over my head...but seeing that I can get it mixed 50/50 already is very good news to me, as that's what I'm vaping now. After laying out a good chunk of change to get me and hubby started with our own PV just this week, won't be able to get all that is needed right now...but in a few weeks I can.

I looked and saw all the different flavorings this site has that you linked us to...what are some of your base flavors that you find yourself using the most? Any flavors that you stay away from?

THANK YOU SOOO much for posting this!!
 

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with every addition to the liquid your nic level will drop. so getting a fixed nic mg/ml might be a good start but as soon as you get the hand of it you will see the limitations of this method. don't get me wrong, this is a good explanation of the diy but certainly not the best one in this forum.

The flavor I add amounts to around 10-15% of the total normally so if I vape 12mg w/ the flavor added it's more like 10.5 to 11mg but since this the only way I make juice ever, every bottle I mix is essentially the same mg so personally I could care less if it's not exact - it's still all around the same level.
I'm good doing this, it's easy, cheap and I'm comfortable w/ it so I have no interest in buying 100mg condensed nicotine and bottles of separate vg and pg, etc - it's just not worth the effort for me to save a few bucks especially when this is so cheap already. Also, I think a lot of ppl are turned off by the complexity of full-on DIY and so never even attempt it - that's why I posted this, it's a good step if you wanna progress but it's also a great way to not only save $ but make some rly good juice very easily.
 

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It may not be "the best one in this forum" but it sure is the most helpful to this Newbie. I've looked at other DIY threads, and thought there's no way I could do all of that and get it right...this thread actually has made me realize that I really think I can do this!! Having to figure up how much PG/VG and all of that other stuff was way over my head...but seeing that I can get it mixed 50/50 already is very good news to me, as that's what I'm vaping now. After laying out a good chunk of change to get me and hubby started with our own PV just this week, won't be able to get all that is needed right now...but in a few weeks I can.

I looked and saw all the different flavorings this site has that you linked us to...what are some of your base flavors that you find yourself using the most? Any flavors that you stay away from?

THANK YOU SOOO much for posting this!!


No problem at all. Like I said my fav flavor company is FA - my "all-day vape" is hypnotic mist and I buy oba oba, royal tobacco, menthol arctic and watermelon (mixed w/ menthol ice is awesome btw) regularly plus I usually try 3 or 4 other flavors - on the way to me now for ex. is cookie, whipped cream, cocoa and magic mask. Think I've tried about half of all FA flavors at this point and honestly you can't go wrong w/ any of em.
 

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yes FA is a very good company. their MAXX-Blend is my preferred vape for almost 1 year now. problem is you have to wait 45 work days for anything to be shipped from them.

I thought about ordering directly from them, seems impractical and too expensive w/ shipping costs though. Idk ecx usually has a lot in stock, LF too.
 

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with every addition to the liquid your nic level will drop. so getting a fixed nic mg/ml might be a good start but as soon as you get the hand of it you will see the limitations of this method. don't get me wrong, this is a good explanation of the diy but certainly not the best one in this forum.

I agree its a good method for a first time DIYer who is nervous about mixing and has no intention of making complex mixes or trying all different flavoring recipes and percentages who will always flavor at a predictable quotient. If you're going to experiment its good to have the PG VG and a higher nic than you need if you need to make an adjustment. Not sure what you have against the calculators or slightly higher nic than you need but more cost effective in the long run is buying at least double your intended nicotine strength and cutting it. The calculators make it EASY.

Not knocking your chosen method but it is a bit limiting and more costly this way than the traditional methods most of the DIY section outlines pretty well. I could see how this would be easier for starting out though.
 

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I agree shilo, but I srill give the OP credit for demystifying (sp) the diy process for someone just starting out that might be nervous about trying their hand at crafting juices.... but thats where the issue does lie...

Making juice is indeed a craft. A simple one flavor juice takes about three minutes to make. This is a great instruction for that. When you begin crafting juices trying to make that one magic juice youve been trying to prefect... and you are on attempt #50... and hunting for that one tiny tweak to your recipe... then thats where you need the stickies and in depth info others have delved WAY TOO DEEP INTO. I mean how long did we debate the merits of JUST vinegar alone last year... different kinds of vinegar... lemon juice... whew my head hurts just thinking about it.

My point is that simple juice can be just... simple. Stellar juice is an act of patience, brilliance, and yes.... even love.

This is a good start guice for making a simple juice. Without concern over consistant nic ratio.
 
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