Super sub-ohm

[doortech9]

Isn't there a higher voltage battery out there? Why tweak the resistance to the point of cell damage..... I dont understand why we adjust the dangerous variable to boost wattage when we could adjust the voltage. Someone please chime in and tell me why this isnt practiced.


edit: I am not bashing sub or supersub ohming I am just curious as to the approach. I have some sub builds that I enjoy safely with high drain batteries and can appreciate why we build to increase watts...

 

[WattWick]

Pushing limits sometimes seeds progress. There were some sub-ohm naysayers but my sub-ohm coils produce a more dense intense flavor than my supra-ohm. Perhaps super sub-ohm will spark progress; time will tell.

For all I care, people can run 0.00001 ohm coils. I'm just saying that there are more trees to bark at to achieve a higher wattage vape without pushing a battery to the point where voltage drop defeats the purpose.

I'm all for progress and experimenting. Then again there's a difference between pushing limits and bashing ones head against a (imo) misinterpreted dead end of diminishing returns. I think high-powered multi-cell regulated mods will be a better cloud chasing tool than any single cell mech.

 

[awj03130]

A fog machine does not sub-ohm.

Just a thought, but consider that fog machines do not need to sub ohm. They don't have batteries with limits, they have 120v outlets with limits. That's how you wind up with a 3000 watt fog machine like mine that can fill a warehouse to literally white-out levels in 10 minutes

Isn't there a higher voltage battery out there? Why tweak the resistance to the point of cell damage..... I dont understand why we adjust the dangerous variable to boost wattage when we could adjust the voltage. Someone please chime in and tell me why this isnt practiced.

Excellent question. Honestly, I don't even know. Maybe size requirements or charge times? I'd love to hear more about this if anyone's in the know as well.

That being said, almost every vv/vw device will push beyond the 4.2v battery's highest voltage, but I find most are hindered by amperage limits. Seems to be changing though.

I'm all for progress and experimenting. Then again there's a difference between pushing limits and bashing ones head against a (imo) misinterpreted dead end of diminishing returns. I think high-powered multi-cell regulated mods will be a better cloud chasing tool than any single cell mech.

Actually, I entirely agree. High-watt multi-cell is the way of the future IMO. See above.

And as a super-sub-ohmer, I also agree with the diminishing returns. It seems like there's a big jump from .3-.2 ohms for me, but not nearly the same jump from .2-.1 IME. Plus, I incur the additional risk. And sometimes I burn my nose hairs.

It is my belief that progress takes risk. Certainly, inventors faced quite a lot of risk when we were first learning to fly. But that's why we have test pilots who vape sub-ohm at mock 8 in the cockpit


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[emus]

And sometimes I burn my nose hairs.

How do you inhale nose hair burning heat w/o starring on 1000 ways to die?

 

[awj03130]

How do you inhale nose hair burning heat w/o starring on 1000 ways to die?

I was j/k, my friend. Actually, I have the opposite problem, the warm vapor and huge dense cloud condenses on my mustache when I exhale and I have to wipe my face lol

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[emus]

I was j/k, my friend. Actually, I have the opposite problem, the warm vapor and huge dense cloud condenses on my mustache when I exhale and I have to wipe my face lol

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My 0.5 ohm dual produces warm enough vapor that I've wondered if lung tissue damage from vapor heat is possible. Think I'll drill air hole bigger just to err on safety. I though your super sub might be like breathing dragon fire. What size air holes do you run to cool the beast's breath?

 

[awj03130]

Haha... 2 1/8"x1/4" slots no flavor though... That's what I've got my trident for... .86 ohm dual twisted 32... Must say, quite a lot cooler of a vape

The first picture is a one second drag on the Trident, dual twisted 2x32 on 5/64", cotton wick, .86 ohm. The vapor size and density is not comparable to the next coil...

The second is a very light 1 second pull (basically all standing vapor generation with very little airflow) one second drag on the UD igo-T which is dual twisted 4x24 on 9/64" with cotton wick at .12 ohms. The flavor drops off by a huge margin compared with the trident.

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[emus]

I guess a 10 second pull would be a total white out.

 

[awj03130]

Actually, its really only safe to pulse the battery... Ad anything more you couldn't handle... Lol

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