Suppliers: Please STOP posting Facebook contests on the ECF!!!

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Reddhott

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SK dont you belong to a group on facebook that promotes alot of facebook ecig contests? i know u have won a few facebook related ones. did u quit? i think its everyones choice to enter where ever u choose for a contest. alot of vendors have contest here and facebook. the competition for getting your products out there is getting harder with all the new vendors so i think its great to beable to get your products out there in any venue. jmho

You can, as a consumer, but the vendor cannot promote a site other than their registered website. is what ive been told about fb contests
 
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I dont like facebook either, but it is how a small business can get a lot of exposure for free? There are so many more specialty vaping pages with items that one would never find any other way. THe makers of drip tips for instance are 100 times more there.

If you like unique items you find it, see photo galleries, actually communicate with people who have, use etc not made up reviews.

If you hate facebook but want to use it for vaping related items, just sign up and dont put up any personal info, make your account private, dont accept "friend request" just look at it as "magazine" for your specific needs.

I signed up because at work there was a lot of inter-information going on. People already had an account so.......

It costs alot ot have a website and pay for the search engines to bring you business, with facebook, I believe is free. People
"feel" like they have a "one on one" connection to the vendor.

But I hate facebook. Its the cheaper way to keep in touch with family members , especially those that would other wise be annoying you on the phone. On facebook you can type a few hellos and sign off.
 

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For consistency sake, you should make sure all the Mods know of this rule. There was a post in the contest thread last week that went directly to an offsite contest (not ecf thread about it), and this was loxmythe's response:

The pif group is here to help our members. If they have an opportunity to win an offsite contest it's fine - as long as it's legitimate ecig related group or vendor. There's been plenty posted that link to Facebook, Twitter etc.

To clarify...off site contest links are fine...like in PIF...those are contests posted by members as a heads up for what is out there - entirely different.

An ECF Supplier can not promote or link to a contest via another media, any contest they discuss here must be here for the members.

Suppliers can have all the Facebook contests they want...they just can't promote or link them here.
 

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To clarify...off site contest links are fine...like in PIF...those are contests posted by members as a heads up for what is out there - entirely different.

An ECF Supplier can not promote or link to a contest via another media, any contest they discuss here must be here for the members.

Suppliers can have all the Facebook contests they want...they just can't promote or link them here.

Thank you for clarifying.

I thought the person that posted the link in the contest thread was representing the company having the contest.
 

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SK dont you belong to a group on facebook that promotes alot of facebook ecig contests? i know u have won a few facebook related ones. did u quit? i think its everyones choice to enter where ever u choose for a contest. alot of vendors have contest here and facebook. the competition for getting your products out there is getting harder with all the new vendors so i think its great to beable to get your products out there in any venue. jmho

You can, as a consumer, but the vendor cannot promote a site other than their registered website. is what ive been told about fb contests

Lol! I thought so, but wasn't sure :p.

But is SK an ECF registered vendor- if No, then the FB groups have no baring?
 

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What is with this "I don't like it, so it must stop!" mentality recently? Where the :censored: are you people getting your sense of entitlement from?

We each have our own preferences, but your rights end where mine begin, and don't tread on me.

A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand, and a kingdom divided against a kingdom will fall.

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Why is that? What is so terrible about Facebook?

I don't understand the ranting about Facebook by some people.

More than a billion people are ACTIVE Facebook users. If some old fuddy duddies or paranoid peeps, or privacy challenged people dont want to be on Facebook, then they shouldn't.

I very much object to that insult.
If you wish to give all your data to a multinational data-mining company, including your phone number and street address, you are welcome to it. I have no intention of doing so. Ever.

.. And yes, I was already on Facebook (gaming) when Facebook decided to make people's (private) phone numbers available to the public. (I did not have one there. But many people who did were absolutely shocked). I was also on Facebook (still gaming) when Facebook dragged your pictures out of the private albums you had made, to share with "friends", and plastered them all over your page.

AND I was also on Facebook when Facebook decided to publish your family relationships (such as "sister") which you had entered as "private" - and dragged my recently deceased sister out of her grave to plaster her picture - complete with the black ribbon - on my page as "sister" all of a sudden.

Thank you but no thank you. I removed everything - and I mean everything - that I do not want plastered all over the place, because Facebook decides it might be a good idea. Quit the game, closed my gaming group and opened a new account. A private account. Which I rarely use. As I no longer have an interest in that platform.

and all carry smart phones lol.

As a matter of fact, I do not. LOL

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If I want to buy something from an online shop, I buy something from an online shop.
If they see it fit to attempt and re-direct me somewhere else - then I take my business somewhere else.
Period.

lol
 
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I think the other side of the coin is while some of us don't want to enter contest here & on FB, there are people on FB who aren't even part of this forum. I think it's a stretch to think everyone with an ecig is here on ECF.

So as with anything, this can be looked at both ways.

I realize everyone is not on ECF, but if a lot of potential customers here don't use FB, why risk turning them off?

You have to remember they are giving away free stuff. If you don't like how you have to enter then don't.

It's like someone hands you a bag of free money and you complain that the bag isn't in your favorite color.

They're giving away free stuff to potential customers on ECF. They post the contest on ECF, but exclude or penalize those not on FB.

You're right, you don't have to enter. Simple. I'm only speaking to the fact that IMO vendors are limiting their potential customer base when they chose to run contests this way.
 

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Why is that? What is so terrible about Facebook?

I don't understand the ranting about Facebook by some people.

You answer your own question later:

This whole thing kind of reminds me of when cell phones became popular. There were plenty of people who swore never to get one, same with emails before that. Well, what do you know? All those people have email now and all carry smart phones lol.

The widespread presumption that Facebook is an essential or a culture-defining innovation is obnoxious. And you subconsciously express that very same presumption here: Facebook's not nearly on the same level with email; it's not on the same level as the cell phone. Facebook doesn't even compare with the smart phone, which by the way is a far less important invention than the cell phone itself.

In fact, you could argue compellingly that the rise of the smart phone plays into the so-called fuddy-duddy objections to Twitter and Facebook. It's not that there's anything inherently objectionable about the technology; it's that Twitter/Facebook and the smart phone have created a (sub)culture in which practically every (young) person you run across has his head buried in self-indulgent and borderline delusional nonsense from moment to moment. Free expression is grand, but the average person is not a special snowflake; his every passing thought isn't worthy of wide-ranging dissemination, and his cultivating a conceit to the contrary is more likely to harm him than to help.

And on that note, I don't believe that that (very young) sub-culture is here to stay. I believe (or if you prefer, fervently hope) that the novelty will wear off eventually. Social media is here to stay; the putatively cheap-but-deceptively-expensive, lease-a-new-one-every-two-years smart phone certainly is here to stay, but hopefully our utter infatuation with it will fade as the advancement of new features that have any practical appeal in a ~4" package inevitably grinds to a halt.

As for Facebook specifically? It's just a website, albeit a website with an extraordinarily large sums of money behind it. Yes, Facebook is culturally iconic, but at one point, so were bell-bottom pants. In the popular consciousness, Facebook was almost immediately overshadowed by Twitter, so whether Facebook will retain its near-primary status in the social-media marketplace for any truly considerable (read: memorable) period of time is an open question.
 
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