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[sjoat]

Hello

I'm about to get some RBA supplies for the first time. Also going to be getting an LP Grand (for the first time. at the moment I'm on a Mini 2.0). Could someone/anyone respond to (some of) these questions..

1. Coil - Getting 10m of Kanthal A1 30 gauge. Is it worth my while/pocket to also get other gauges (28 and 32 possibly) to experiment with? Or is 30 a safe bet

2. Wick - Getting 8cm x 6cm Koh Gen Do pads. Is 15 enough to experiment with? (Also getting RxW for once I've mastered the how of it)

3. batteries - Getting 3 x 18650 batteries to rotate. The Grand takes a single one of these right? Also does anyone have experience with the MNKE brand? I've always used AW and they've always been great, unless I can be persuaded otherwise

4. Tools - Getting 8pc wrapping rod set. Would the 'Coil Master' be better? What else would I need to help with building. Tweezers to adjust/set coils? No idea about tools but I'm pretty sure I'll be needing some

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5. (Somewhat related) - What resistance on a fully charged 18650 battery is equivalent to 1.5ohm on a fully charged 18490 battery? I have a multimeter which I figure I'll start using to avoid problems. I just want a rough idea what I'm aiming for. E.g. which of Rebuildable Atomizer Coils - Avid Vaper would be roughly the same on a 18650/RM2 as a 1.5ohm cisco atty is on a 18490

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Many many thank yous

edit: can probably ignore the AW vs MNKE thing. I see on the ProVari purchase page that it's optional to include an AW battery. So I'm sure they're still regarded as excellent

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Hello

I'm about to get some RBA supplies for the first time. Also going to be getting an LP Grand (for the first time. at the moment I'm on a Mini 2.0). Could someone/anyone respond to (some of) these questions..

1. Coil - Getting 10m of Kanthal A1 30 gauge. Is it worth my while/pocket to also get other gauges (28 and 32 possibly) to experiment with? Or is 30 a safe bet

I would also get some 28 or 29 gauge

2. Wick - Getting 8cm x 6cm Koh Gen Do pads. Is 15 enough to experiment with? (Also getting RxW for once I've mastered the how of it)

that will go a long ways and is a good start

3. Batteries - Getting 3 x 18650 batteries to rotate. The Grand takes a single one of these right? Also does anyone have experience with the MNKE brand? I've always used AW and they've always been great, unless I can be persuaded otherwise

Three is a good start, MNKE has a good rep, many use AW 2200 MAh button top batteries.

4. Tools - Getting 8pc wrapping rod set. Would the 'Coil Master' be better? What else would I need to help with building. Tweezers to adjust/set coils? No idea about tools but I'm pretty sure I'll be needing some

The Coil gizmo is pretty inexpensive and easy to use, yes to tweezers, small precision screw driver set is a good thing to have also. You already have the multimeter so you're set there.

5. (Somewhat related) - What resistance on a fully charged 18650 battery is equivalent to 1.5ohm on a fully charged 18490 battery? I have a multimeter which I figure I'll start using to avoid problems. I just want a rough idea what I'm aiming for. E.g. which of Rebuildable Atomizer Coils - Avid Vaper would be roughly the same on a 18650/RM2 as a 1.5ohm cisco atty is on a 18490

Battery won't change the ohm of the coil you build, battery choice affects run time, maximum amp load( lowest ohm coil) you can run. Also how much internal resistance they have. I found that I need to drop ohms when I switch to the RM2 on Reo from using Cisco atties and dripping. I'd suggest starting with about 1.2 ohms.

A new REO with the gold contacts will have a lower voltage drop than older REO with silver colored contacts. So the same ohm coil will hit slight harder on a new one.
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Many many thank yous

Congrats and enjoy!

 

[Fishcakes]

Not sure about the equivalent resistance question, but i use 28 g kanthol. Lots of peeps use 30g too though, so thats up to you. 15 pads of kgd will do ya for about 6 months to a year, depending on how often you change your wick.
For the batts, yep. Grands only use one at a time. Ive got 3 aw imr 18650 1600mahs in rotation daily, theyre champs.

Id stay away from the coil master and go for a coil gizmo, but whatever floats your boat. The coil master is definately easier, but the gizmos more consistent

You got this! And dont be afraid to hit us up with more questions. We love helping!

Edit dont forget some deoxit gold for them contacts. It reall does help!

 

[sjoat]

Two replies already. This sub-forum never fails. Thanks Filthy-Beast, Fishcakes

(will post more questions as they come. have a feeling they will. just gotta await shipments now)

 

[RGLP4Lyfe]

AW is your best bet. They offer multiple size batteries, the new 18490 and 18650 are awesome! And yes kgd is what I use. I bought a box of 80 pads and in 4 months I've only used maybe 3 pads. And wire. Use Temco.com, very cheap prices and free shipping always in US.

And like filthy said, you build your coils, so you decide what ohms you want.

Enjoy!!

-Mark

 

[sjoat]

One RM2 will suffice right?

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

Filthy B nailed your questions, as usual.

Starting with a RM2 is a great idea and one will get you up and running fine. They're easy to (re)build and as long as you have the obligatory backup setup to vape in case of emergency, accident, or to use while you're working on your reo/RM2, you'll be fine.

Now, if you require >1 ADV each day, you might have need for more gear, but if you just occasionally swap out juices, it's easy enough to do that with one setup.

Once you get set up with your "base" rig, don't be surprised if you want more from there - more reo models/styles/finishes, more atties (either more RM2's to go with more reos or more atties for your one reo to play around with vaping and building styles). Many, many reonauts come for the practicality and performance of the mod and then it becomes something of a hobby to collect and/or experiment with. It's all good.

 

[Doffy]

5. (Somewhat related) - What resistance on a fully charged 18650 battery is equivalent to 1.5ohm on a fully charged 18490 battery? I have a multimeter which I figure I'll start using to avoid problems. I just want a rough idea what I'm aiming for. E.g. which of Rebuildable Atomizer Coils - Avid Vaper would be roughly the same on a 18650/RM2 as a 1.5ohm cisco atty is on a 18490

both 18650 and 18490 are the same same voltage, so 1.5 ohm is 1.5 ohm and just shy of 12 watts on a fully charged battery

given the link, are you coming from avidvaper cisco spec atties? if so the rm2 should serve you well, the stock air hole is a tight draw, like the ciscos

30g is easy to work with to start, maybe throw in some ribbon wire, which gives more surface coil area to the wick, and/or a heavier gauge wire

 

[sjoat]

@Papa_Lazarou, will have backups

@Doffy, yep, been using Cisco for a while, mainly 306/LR. Good to know that about the RM2

Quick one... the Brass RM2, is the only difference here the finish? Aesthetics? If you closed your eyes would the vape be the same as the standard RM2?

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

Quick one... the Brass RM2, is the only difference here the finish? Aesthetics? If you closed your eyes would the vape be the same as the standard RM2?

Yep - it's a style choice. Note that the RM2 is brass under the chrome plating in the 'regular' style.

This is a useful quality if you ever find you want more air, as the brass is very easy to work with in enlarging the cap's air hole.

 

[JC Okie]

sjoat, if you get an LP (low profile, which has a shaved down catch cup to make it more versatile and able to accommodate different RBAs) Grand, make sure you order the LP RM2 to go with it. It's just a cosmetic difference, but a regular RM2 is fashioned for the regular Grand (not the LP) and it'll look a little strange atop an LP. Also, I'd suggest getting the LP (both mod and atty) in case you want to branch out and try other (bigger diameter) RBAs.

 

[super_X_drifter]

If you feel like watching a video, this may be of help

http://youtu.be/wNpc0WU-1Co

 

[sjoat]

If you feel like watching a video, this may be of help

http://youtu.be/wNpc0WU-1Co

Amazing, thanks

 

[JetMac]

Temco.com as stated before is a good place to get your wire, you can buy 100' spools for a few dollars and it's free shipping. I'd get 28 or 29 gauge as well.

Batteries, I'd just stick with the AW batteries, either 1600mAh or the 2200mAh. 1600 are 24 amp limit and the 2200 are 20 amp limit.




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[sjoat]

sjoat, if you get an LP (low profile, which has a shaved down catch cup to make it more versatile and able to accommodate different RBAs) Grand, make sure you order the LP RM2 to go with it. It's just a cosmetic difference, but a regular RM2 is fashioned for the regular Grand (not the LP) and it'll look a little strange atop an LP. Also, I'd suggest getting the LP (both mod and atty) in case you want to branch out and try other (bigger diameter) RBAs.

Ta. Definitely something I was going to ask about

But I'm still confused, because on the site it just says "low profile reomizer", and then the RM2 that is listed is for non-LP. I know the site isn't as well crafted as the Reos, but this one is particularly confusing

(For argument sake, will an LP Grand work with a standard old Cisco 306 atomizer? Is there a forum thread somewhere that compares the differences (well, catch cup) between LP and non-LP? Side by side images maybe. I'll try search)

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

"low profile reomizer" is the RM2 for LP reos; "Reomizer 2.0" is the RM2 for non-LP reos.

306 and 510 atties will work just fine with all reos. The original catch cup design is taller to allow for more oversquonking, which happens more frequently with non-RDA toppers. It might get a tad messier with an LP, but it will work.

The chief advantage of the LP design is that it allows the use of any sized atty, whereas the standard cup requires atties of 14mm or less in diameter (unless they are milled to fit the cup, which the "Reomizer 2.0" is).

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Yes a regular atty will work on an LP, it just doesn't have a drip well so to speak.

LP on left, regular on right

 

[Filthy-Beast]

RM2 came first and was cut skinner on the bottom to fit in the drip well of a regular REO. LP RM2 came later and is not cut down.

TWO LP RM2 on the left, regular RM2 on the right.