Suttons Bay Trading Co

[GoodDog]

Here's what Suttons Bay Trading Co had to say about my inquiry. Not very helpful after sending them 2 emails with specific questions.

Below is an example of what they call an ingredient list. What do you think??

"Most all of our flavors are water soluble with the exception of the natural flavors. All ingredients are listed on the site under each appropriate flavoring."

[SIZE=+1]English Toffee Flavor[/SIZE]

English Toffee flavor is great in baked goods and candies. Although flavors may be sometimes referred to as a candy oil, they do not contain vegetable oil. The gluten and sugar free, highly concentrated flavors are available for home or professional use in hard candy, frostings, fudges, cookies, candy and candy centers, chocolates and baking (cakes and breads). They are three to four times stronger than extracts, since extracts are diluted by large amounts of alcohol and/or water. When using a recipe that calls for an extract make sure that you use 1/3 the amount if you are substituting a flavor.

Contains: Artificial flavoring, propylene glycol. All ingredients are approved for use by the FDA.

[SIZE=-1]1 oz[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]Item: 20669[/SIZE]
Our Price:
$4.85

 

[Nikhil]

As I said when 5cardstud posted about them in my guide thread:

I'm about 99% sure Suttons Bay Flavorings are repackaged LorAnn Oils, since their flavors match word for word and ingredient for ingredient with LorAnn's.

 

[GoodDog]

Sorry I didn't catch that. I haven't gotten around to going to the LorAnn's site yet. I was comparing the price to Capella but didn't even think of comparing it to LorAnn.

I also sent 2 emails to Get Suckered and their response after checking with their lab, "Our flavors are not safe for vaping." Don't you just love the great customer service some of these companies give? LOL

I'm looking for dairy and can't find it with any of the listed vendors.

 

[Nikhil]

Aren't Get Suckered's flavors soybean oil based? That probably makes them a bad idea anyway. Since you enjoy contacting companies on our behalf, perhaps you could check into Nature's Flavors?

 

[GoodDog]

Aren't Get Suckered's flavors soybean oil based? That probably makes them a bad idea anyway. Since you enjoy contacting companies on our behalf, perhaps you could check into Nature's Flavors?

Done! ....

 

[whiskey]

Sorry I didn't catch that. I haven't gotten around to going to the LorAnn's site yet. I was comparing the price to Capella but didn't even think of comparing it to LorAnn.

I also sent 2 emails to Get Suckered and their response after checking with their lab, "Our flavors are not safe for vaping." Don't you just love the great customer service some of these companies give? LOL

I'm looking for dairy and can't find it with any of the listed vendors.

So They Aren't Safe To Use As Flavoring For Vaping Or Are They?
I Just Ordered From Get Suckered...Did I "Get Suckered?"

 

[GoodDog]

So They Aren't Safe To Use As Flavoring For Vaping Or Are They?
I Just Ordered From Get Suckered...Did I "Get Suckered?"

According to their email response to my inquiry they say they are NOT safe for vaping. My understanding is that they are made from soy bean oil and we shouldn't vape that.

 

[Dkrom68]

Spices by Spice Barn has a couple flavorings that are usable if you read the ingredients for each some are soybean but others are just glycol water and flavoring

 

[whiskey]

According to their email response to my inquiry they say they are NOT safe for vaping. My understanding is that they are made from soy bean oil and we shouldn't vape that.

First Time In This Thread So I Know I Missed Why Soy Oil Was Bad To Vape. Could You Tell Me Please?

 

[5cardstud]

Actually I ordered 3 10z bottles and the are called Amish and are quite tasty at least I can taste them now. I only ordered the flavores without sugars and the bad things. They sure have a good price but shipping was kinda high. But well worth it to me.

 

[GoodDog]

LOL I don't know, I just read it here and believed the poster.

 

[Dkrom68]

5Card are you talking from the Spice Barn or Sutton. The soybean is a oil and bad for atties as well as it has things unvapable in it thats bad for you as well Whiskey

 

[Dkrom68]

If you go through the flavors from Sutton and look at the ingredients some of them dont contain soybean oil and are probably fine to use

 

[GoodDog]

I sent Spice Barn an email asking if they would consider having a designated area for "safe to vape" flavorings. I worded it more professionally. LOL

 

[Dkrom68]

Cool beans GoodDog

 

[5cardstud]

5Card are you talking from the Spice Barn or Sutton. The soybean is a oil and bad for atties as well as it has things unvapable in it thats bad for you as well Whiskey

Im talking about Sutton. I got my bottles on wednesday. The shipping said they paid 5 dollars and change and they charge you 8 dollars and change but it was fast.

 

[Nikhil]

Spices by Spice Barn has a couple flavorings that are usable if you read the ingredients for each some are soybean but others are just glycol water and flavoring

Very interesting site, they have detailed chemical composition for their flavors. There are a lot of unusable ones to go through to find usable ones, though. I'm getting lazy after writing up that guide...

So They Aren't Safe To Use As Flavoring For Vaping Or Are They?
I Just Ordered From Get Suckered...Did I "Get Suckered?"

When you buy a flavoring, it is diluted in something, because pure chemical flavor would be absurdly strong, often not liquid, and sometimes dangerous. We use flavors diluted in PG and/or alcohol and/or water because those are vapable. Even if you use an oil flavoring (like clove extract which is naturally an oil), those are very strong and can be diluted into alcohol to emulsify, so a couple of drops can flavor a lot of liquid and won't leave much residue on the atomizer. Get Suckered dilutes the basic flavoring chemicals in soybean oil so you'd end up adding a lot of oil to your liquid, which will likely clog up the atomizer quickly. Oils just don't vaporize properly because they are complex fat molecules.

 

[whiskey]

5Card are you talking from the Spice Barn or Sutton. The soybean is a oil and bad for atties as well as it has things unvapable in it thats bad for you as well Whiskey

Dkrome..Thanks For Asking, I Was Talking About Oils @ Get Suckered
Because I Just Ordered Some Of Thier Flavors And Was Wondering Why It Was Bad For You..I Know About The Atty Thing But I Haven't Had A Problem W/That Thanks...Still Wondering...

 

[Dkrom68]

Hey 5Card I see you got Amish from there but dont see it on the site.

 

[5cardstud]

I would recomend paying heed to what GoodDog has to say as she knows alot more than I do about flavorings. Plus I have only used mine for a minute and would hate to have someone ruin equipment and waste money on my account..