Svoë Mesto Kayfun III ES Discussion/Questions

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martinc

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Been vaping my num 37 for like 5 months :)

They dont leak unless you do something wrong to them,like mounting the coil too close to the air hole

I got 2x2.0 and 1xIIIES along with a mini 1.0 and IIES...none leaks.

The lil IIES are beasts too,best bang for the buck on a Zmax

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Cover both air and air adjuster screw holes with your finger upon refill time
 

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Does it leak out of the airflow hole like the kayfunII did?

i have both the II, and the IIIES. They are virtually identical in performance, I really think its all about tucking the wick in properly after you set it up. I've never had a problem with either one of them leaking unless the wick isn't tucked in properly, in which case either one of them will flood catastrophically. In fact if anyone has a leaky VII, hit me up ill take it off your hands;)

Nowhere else to go rant about my latest build so I'm putting it here:)

Did, Zap, Oddy, Penny, Phoenix, Spheroid, Vivi Nova and a slew of clones- not saying anything negative about any of them but its a Kayfun on top of my device day in and day out :) using 6 wraps of 30 gauge on a piece of ceramic wick at 2ish ohms, and I kid you not its hands down the best vape I have ever had! I have literally made myself ill before, trying to get a dry hit off of this attomizer, I really think the design is that good, it just isn't possible to do when set up properly. The vacuum in the chamber in my opinion is much more dynamic, (you draw and the vacuum feeds the wick), and so more effective than some other systems that rely on exposing more wick area to the liquid to increase the flow of liquid. (It works, but kind of passive and not as effective imo.)

And the tank is good for an entire day of vaping for me, it's plenty large. I only used the double tank once, just to do it. It's perfectly solid and it works, but its crazy long imho, and I don't really need to carry a tank that large in my normal day to day routine. I guess in theory it could come in handy, just not a situation personally that I could imagine needing it.

Build quality is as good as anything else I have owned, with a significant edge and nod to the VIII which is a significant step up from the VII (as reflected in the difference in price also!) the IIIES is all stainless and the clear tank is extremely well made, even though the tank itself is threaded I'm not really worried about stripping it. I don't know exactly what kind of plastic/acrylic or what have you, that's it made out of, but it is sturdy, rugged and solid.

All in all what's not to like? The search for the perfect attomizer for me ended when I fired up my Kayfun for the first time!
 

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Synthros, glad your here bro! Finally someone else who understands this thing :) I couldn't agree more with what you said but I'm only on my 3rd day with it and it's amazing.

Since I got you here, what do you think is the proper way of laying the wick? I've been wrapping them around in the same direction on each side so they nestle in each vaccume pathway. Is that how your running it? Also, are you using the provided silica and nichrome? I've tried with the supplied goods and with my own. I have both 3 and 3.5mm silica and all sizes of wire. Today's setup was 3mm with 32aug but I felt the supplied gear was better. What's your thoughts on various setups?
 

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I usually run them in essentially an "S" shape. The best place to see this demonstrated is in the video by Navy Lifeguard. The video is a tad long and the entire thing is in German, (which I don't speak;). But the camera work is excellent and you don't have to understand a word to watch an expert set it up, beginning to end. But yes, the key things I always make sure of is that the actual coil has some clearance over the air hole and then I lay the rest of the wick on both sides and tuck one tail down.

Martinc has said this before but its true the wick that comes with is excellent. It's some sort of braided wick that I haven't seen elsewhere. I like it a lot, but I'm also having fantastic success right now with a single strand of the XC116 ceramic wick. Any more than one strand and I could not get enough flexibility to get it into the chamber without distorting the coil, it really seems to me that you need a pretty flexible wick, another reason the wick that is supplied works so well. I have also used 3mm wick with 32gauge A1, but like you it wasn't my favorite build. I will probably place another order with SM in the near future, when I do I will definitely be stocking up on that wick as well! I haven't played much with the wire that came with, it just seemed to tricky to mess with(for me). But I've been wondering if I shouldn't try again, they sell several different options of multiple strands of thinner braided wire which makes me wonder if there's not something to that approach! For the moment though my 6-wrap 30 gauge is rocking very nicely!

Best of luck, it took me a bit to get through the learning curve. The first time I built my first Kayfun atty I got so frustrated I was ready to take a hammer to that thing! Glad I calmed down and had another go at it, it really is my favorite atty and I've tried a bunch of them. I am no expert on genesis atty's, although I have a few. But as to the rest of them, and silica based for certain there is no equal in my book:)
 

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Vapeporn for you fellow Kayfun fans. The Ultimate Hybrid. Powered by the Nivel Chip.

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Yeah I said somewhere else , that picture is pure vaping pron:) I use a provari virtually all of the time so I haven't really felt the need to get a mini, although I agree if you want to experience the Kayfun a VII mini is probably the way to go right now as they are both available and reasonably priced(at least last time I checked). Anyway the full sized versions both look good on my device so I've passed on the mini so far, I also don't own an ego battery lol so I'd have to get the whole shebang.

That sticker with the semovar just looks wicked cool to me, that's a device that I could see using in place of what I have now;)

Has anyone heard anything else about the next version? I thought I read somewhere that it would be out towards the beginning of the new year. I've seen the rendering video of it and it looks pretty sweet. That's another cool thing about the Kayfun, probably the slickest computer animated video I've ever seen. When Scott(Igetcha69) says he's jealous you know it must be well done:)

And thanks Stacy for making a thread where we can ramble about our Russian beauties, it seems to be a rather small club at the moment, especially here in the US. Maybe we should all post pics of our Svoemesto gear here, that might turn some heads;) that pic above is a high class start too!
 

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Old family picture,pre IIIES and mini IIES (added 18650 tube to the one on the right too)



P.S.

The metal/clear tank sleeves are crap (broke one),better go with the full clear ones

Good to know I was thinking about getting one , probably just get another full clear, is that the clear plastic top cap on the right also? I was considering that also ill bet it makes it even lighter , no?

You are right that mini looks right at home on that zmax! Nice pic!

Stacy here is a picture of the wicks laying in the chamber, I assume its ok if I use this pic if not i will take it down. This is the wick lying in an original mini, but the concept is the same. You can see the "S" shape.

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Looking great guys! I'll get some pics up after work. I'm picking up a GUS Telescopic today and I think it will hold the Kfun quite nicely :D

Martinc, where did you snag a clear/metal tank from? Is that only for V2? And what about the clear top cap? I like the looks of that one.

They are on the SM website, however the metal/clear is no longer available it looks like, Martinc said quality not as good on that one. I can tell you the full clear tank is very well made, threads and all.
I agree the clear top cap looks awesome in that pic, might just have to go for it:)

Might almost be worth a mini coop, a 20% discount + saving $17 shipping charge ........... Just a thought!
 

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Just received the following notification from the Russian site:

At 14:00 Moscow time on 13/12/12 in our shop will be on sale Kayfun-mini v.2.1 ES
Version 2.1 has an integrated valve for filling, folding the body and much more. Details about version 2.1 can be found in our forum.

Also in the sale will be accessories for KMv2.1 ES and sets c KMv2.1 ES
 

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My honest opinion?

The clear top cap pisses all over the metal one as its eaaaaaaaasy to unscrew (I keep leaving skin patches on the metal ones :laugh: ) but doesnt look as good as the metal one.

Stll,I trust makrolon more than plated brass as far as longevity goes (just dont drop it!)

The current V2 parts batch wont last long and probably wont be back after the V3 hits the market,so get spares (they cheap anyways)

I am myself waiting on the next Mini 2.1 batch to arrive to order one and a couple spares (expect stock this weekend)
 
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