Switching & mouth ulcer ... experiences?

[Fizzy-Penny]

Hi all,
This is probably not the best place to post my question, but this is the only forum I can access yet! I'm new (obviously) .. both to the forum and to ecigs. I'm absolutely loving vaping, btw. It's just wonderful!

A little background: I've stopped smoking analogs several times in the past (stopping = at least 3 months with no cigs). The last time was a couple years ago and I went cold turkey. Within a week of my last smoke, I started developing mouth ulcers. Now these weren't your usual every-day ulcers where you get one or at most two ... little suckers that hurt like the dickens, but pain-controlled with OTC pain stuff like Orajel and that go away in about a week. Nooooo, these were often the size of a dime and lasted a month or more. By the time the first ones were going away, I'd have more started. So I wound up with 4-5 at a time. Couldn't eat, hard to drink, impossible to talk normally (a real problem since I am on the phone at work all afternoon long). Gut messed up, as well. Yukky all around.

Dr. was no help ("They'll disappear soon" with "soon" being undefined). Dentist was no help, either. Neither believed this was related to giving up smoking. (God forbid there be a down-side to it as far as the medical community is concerned.)

So, a couple of my buds are vapers and they suggested I give it a try. Which I did, and as I said ... love it! It's super! But, I've been afraid to chuck my analogs in the trash, yet, due to the above! I'm concerned about those darned ulcers coming back. (Most miserable thing I've ever experienced!)

So, my question to all your experienced vapers is: Did you ever have the problem of mouth ulcers when you switched to vaping? If so, how low a nic level were you vaping? Did you slowly go off the analogs or did you just switch totally all at once?

Vape on friends! And thanks for any feed-back you have for this noob.

 

[Ladypixel]

Actually, mouth ulcers are a known detox issue when you quit smoking. It's not something which is necessarily caused by vaping.

You might want to look at the symptoms of detox on the following thread -- there's also a list of known symptoms caused by vaping following the cigarette detox part:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hen-quitting-tobacco-changing-ecigarette.html

 

[Benzin]

I dint get ulcers, but i got a serious problem where my gums are constantly bleeding. At first i tought it was just a coincidence, and that i might have gingivitis or something, but my dentist has confirmed that i do not have it, and he told me that "there are some studies that sugest that quitting smoking causes bleeding gums, and or mouth ulcers".
He also said that it would just "go away" on its own.

 

[Cloud Wizard]

A quick google search on "mouth ulcers caused by stress?" resulted in about a billion hits. Quitting smoking causes stress... Are you getting them while vaping too or just when you went cold turkey?

(disclaimer: I'm not a Dr, just good with Google)

 

[Ladypixel]

I dint get ulcers, but i got a serious problem where my gums are constantly bleeding. At first i tought it was just a coincidence, and that i might have gingivitis or something, but my dentist has confirmed that i do not have it, and he told me that "there are some studies that sugest that quitting smoking causes bleeding gums, and or mouth ulcers".
He also said that it would just "go away" on its own.

Yeah, bleeding gums are also a detox symptom. I have that. (I also have the "quit zits" - ugh!) It can take some time, months in fact, for the gum-bleeding to stop, based on everything I've read. The ulcers supposedly stop much sooner, but I didn't experience them personally, so I don't have practical experience on those.

 

[egxflash]

I have read that mouth ulcers are a known symptom after having quit smoking. Not necessarily because of vaping as somebody else mentioned but because after u stop smoking you're just generally more prone to them.
At least that's what I've read up because I was having the same problem as you.

One thing I have noticed tho and I've started to attribute the cause to the juice in your mouth. You might be getting them from sucking up juice or having a bit pool in your mouth. I recommend taking a healthy swig of a drink or gargle it our promptly if you do suck some up or if ur vaping before u sleep. Doing that has really helped me in not getting these.

 

[dlsw]

I got mouth ulcers both times that I quit. The first time, I did not vape, (years ago), and I had them off and on for about a year. This time, they weren't as nasty, and I had them for about 10 days. I don't know what the difference is, but quitting sucks for so many reasons. Vaping makes it suck less.

 

[Fizzy-Penny]

A quick google search on "mouth ulcers caused by stress?" resulted in about a billion hits. Quitting smoking causes stress... Are you getting them while vaping too or just when you went cold turkey?

(disclaimer: I'm not a Dr, just good with Google)

Hi CW! thanks for reading my post. No, I have not yet experienced them while vaping, but then ... I'm still smoking 3-4 analogs a day & vaping the rest of the time. The only time I ever experienced mouth ulcers was when I stopped smoking cold turkey a couple of years ago - no vape, no patches, no nothin'! It was still going on 9 months into that quit and I went back to smokes to stop them. And it did stop, within a week of smoking again. I was really upset about the whole thing.

I'm tempted to just chuck the analogs and switch totally. I like vaping enough to try it, that's for sure. Love the tastes I've found so far ... really lucky in choosing stuff I liked right off, I guess. I'm just concerned that those awful ulcers will come back. Looks like it's a risk I'll have to take at some point, huh?

At least I'm not actually stressing over it .... just being cautious (maybe a little too much so.) Thanks for the input.

 

[Fizzy-Penny]

I got mouth ulcers both times that I quit. The first time, I did not vape, (years ago), and I had them off and on for about a year. This time, they weren't as nasty, and I had them for about 10 days. I don't know what the difference is, but quitting sucks for so many reasons. Vaping makes it suck less.

Thanks, dlsw! That's encouraging news. I can deal with a couple of weeks of 'em. Hopefully, if I do get them again, it won't last long.

 

[Ladypixel]

I got mouth ulcers both times that I quit. The first time, I did not vape, (years ago), and I had them off and on for about a year. This time, they weren't as nasty, and I had them for about 10 days. I don't know what the difference is, but quitting sucks for so many reasons. Vaping makes it suck less.

I've always gotten quit zits when I tried. Admittedly, I've never been successful 'til now... this is the longest I've been without analogs in 25 years, and frankly, I have no interest in going back. For me, vaping didn't just make it suck less - it made it not really suck at all! Now, if I can just finish eradicating the zits...

 

[Benzin]

Yeah, bleeding gums are also a detox symptom. I have that. (I also have the "quit zits" - ugh!) It can take some time, months in fact, for the gum-bleeding to stop, based on everything I've read. The ulcers supposedly stop much sooner, but I didn't experience them personally, so I don't have practical experience on those.

aww, i can only hope this problem "goes away" soon. Its not that it hurts, it doesnt, but i am just FED UP having that DISCUSTING taste of blood in my mouth all the time.
Im now brushing my teeth like 10 times a day to get rid of that blood-taste.

Now i know what vampires feel like! xD

 

[Cloud Wizard]

If it is stress related, remember the vapor has nicotine so it's not like just quitting smokes on the spot. I was really quite nervous about making the switch to vaping. I bought tons of excess of everything cause I knew if I ran out I'd grab a pack of smokes. Now that I'm in my groove (comfy with what I'm doing and how to do it) I wish I would've done it years ago. So, if it was nic withdrawal causing stress than you shouldn't have a problem.

I saw a really cool signature on somebody's post that said, "the only way to get rid of a bad habit is to replace it with a better habit".

 

[Ladypixel]

aww, i can only hope this problem "goes away" soon. Its not that it hurts, it doesnt, but i am just FED UP having that DISCUSTING taste of blood in my mouth all the time.
Im now brushing my teeth like 10 times a day to get rid of that blood-taste.

Now i know what vampires feel like! xD

You and me both. I hate the blood-taste. Something that seems to have helped, for me at least, is to brush as I normally would -- but to keep some listerine on hand to rinse-and-spit if they start bleeding between brushings (rare, but it does happen). Mouthwash almost immediately stops the bleeding, which helps a lot. Plus, well, it cleanses my palate, especially if I've been vaping a lot of one flavor.

 

[Benzin]

Yep, mouthwash does help a lot, apart from brushing all the time, im using my "Listerine Cool mint" like it was free hehe.

I only wonder how long will this bleeding last? months? YEARS???

 

[Ladypixel]

Everything I've read has been inconclusive. Some people experience it for a short period of time. Others, up to a year. Haven't heard of anyone going much over a year, at least.

 

[nansc]

Hi and welcome, try rinsing out your mouth with salt water it really helps them go away faster.Good Luck

 

[enchantedwonder]

Purpleparallel,

I woke up this morning, I have been vaping for almost a month. I am down to under three analogs a day (it varies sometimes 1 sometimes 3). Today I woke up with a pain on my tongue, like a canker sore. What juice are you vaping?

 

[MickeyRat]

Tip for mouth ulcers. Rinse your mouth with 50/50 milk of magnesia and liquid benedryl...Trust me.

 

[enchantedwonder]

Really... wow.

 

[bnrkwest]

I also had a round of mouth ulcers when I quit and started vaping. The best thing I found to help clear them up and relieve the pain was emu oil, the stuff is fabulous. Also good for the quit zits too, clears them up faster. Amazing how quitting analogs does have some side effects, but worth working thru it no doubt. bnrk