SXK Copper/Red Stingray Clone

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The one at 101 has the engraving from the black/copper and not the engraving that was on the red/copper. Don't like this one as well.
Oh and no logo on the bottom.
my thoughts exactly, apparently those are the v2 by infinite. I just pray that the only changes were to the engravings and not improvements in fit/finish or quality bc that would really blow, since I'd never get that one, just don't like that logo at all, while I love the phantom brass logo with the deep engraving
 

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The one at 101 has the engraving from the black/copper and not the engraving that was on the red/copper. Don't like this one as well.
Oh and no logo on the bottom.

illitirit,
This may help ya handle the seem. I took some 400 grit sandpaper and gave the tubes a brush finish


can you please detail your process bc that looks amazing. You go horizontally with your tricks? Please, the more detail the better since I'd be a total novice at this kind of job...
 

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The one at 101 has the engraving from the black/copper and not the engraving that was on the red/copper. Don't like this one as well.
Oh and no logo on the bottom.

To update the past 3 days I have spent with the red copper stingray:

Pros:

-Looks great
-Mine came in aesthetically pristine condition
-Love the floating top cap pin
-Hits hard -- Measured voltage drop on 0.4 ohm dual coil on VTC5 batteries came out to 0.23v drop. My brass nemesis with same configuration was almost double the voltage drop @ 0.41v drop.

Cons:

-The real red copper 'LE' stingray includes 18350+18500 tubes with an 18650 extension. This version is only 18350 tube with 500/650 extensions.
-I wish it was a bit more seamless
-I have 1460/1000 serial #. Not a big deal since a clone, but like I said in an earlier post.... Come on china.

-THE .......N BUTTON.
This is the biggest con. When I first got it, the thing would get stuck, would crunch up, it was just a freaking nightmare.
I took Peppie's information and went to town with 800 grit sandpaper on all of the internals of the switch. It did help the smoothness, but it was still crunchy and got stuck depending on how your finger would put pressure on it.
I went back again and used 400 grit then 1000/1500 grit this time, it helped and made it much more useable. It still however gets stuck. I then coated the internals of the switch with vaseline and that made a huge difference.

My switch now is smooth with an extremely short throw, BUT it still gets stuck from time to time.

Example scenario: I go for a vape, fire it, take my finger off the button, its still firing. Doesnt stop until I actually physically pull the stuck button out.

Extremely annoying, but im sure with more work I can get it to stop.

The only way I have found to combat this stuck button problem is that when vaping I have to release my finger from the button very quickly instead of slowly which im used to. Almost like a flicking outward motion with my pinky.

TL;DR ==== If your not willing to put in work with this button I would say stay the f * * * away from purchasing it.

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don't feel too bad, I've got an authentic phantom brass and the switch was a nightmare when it arrived, virtually unusable and I ordered directly from the maker, Drew, of jd tech. Can you elaborate where you applied the Vaseline in the switch? Also, have you found it makes upkeep a PIA? Like how often do you reapply and have you noticed any effect to the mods conductivity from it?
 

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The one at 101 has the engraving from the black/copper and not the engraving that was on the red/copper. Don't like this one as well.
Oh and no logo on the bottom.

" ...Ended up taking off the locking ring, and grinding material off the end of the tube, making it thinner, and gave the edge a bit of chamfor. This made the biggest difference, and everything is fine now. Happy camper!"

I can almost guarantee you this will fix it. It's worked for me and others. :)
can anyone post a tutorial on this, I'd be extremely grateful
 

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The one at 101 has the engraving from the black/copper and not the engraving that was on the red/copper. Don't like this one as well.
Oh and no logo on the bottom.

Copper is soft. Those grits of sandpaper should do just fine. Start with 800, finish with the 2000 and you should have a smooth now slightly tapered tube that the switch will glide past.

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are you sure it's the tube that's catching bc I thought the issue was centered at where the rice pin sits
 

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The one at 101 has the engraving from the black/copper and not the engraving that was on the red/copper. Don't like this one as well.
Oh and no logo on the bottom.

If you look carefully at how the bottom cap slides past the bottom of the tube you can see how removing a bit of the outside of the tube will make it easier for the switch to slide past it.

I did this on one Nemesis clone and it completely changed how the switch behaved. Hope it works out as well for you and your Stingray.

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do you think this would address the crunchiness of my phantom brass authentic as well, bc I'd always thought the issue resided in the switch housing, specifically where the rice pin sits and slides past
 

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Has anyone heard of a manufacturer called HTLON? I'm told they also are a manufacturer for Infinite...can anyone verify this?...I bought a red copper Stingray clone off Ebay produced by HTLON and it is beautiful...no switch issues...its visually striking with deep engraving....pics just don't do it justice...

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Has anyone heard of a manufacturer called HTLON? I'm told they also are a manufacturer for Infinite...can anyone verify this?...I bought a red copper Stingray clone off Ebay produced by HTLON and it is beautiful...no switch issues...its visually striking with deep engraving....pics just don't do it justice...
Looks nice in the pics. What eBay seller did you get that from?

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are you sure it's the tube that's catching bc I thought the issue was centered at where the rice pin sits
It might be a combination of the two. The smaller rice pins allow for the switch to giggle a bit and might be why the switch is digging into the tube. I ordered some nemesis pins, which I think are bigger, to try out.
 

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Has anyone heard of a manufacturer called HTLON? I'm told they also are a manufacturer for Infinite...can anyone verify this?...I bought a red copper Stingray clone off Ebay produced by HTLON and it is beautiful...no switch issues...its visually striking with deep engraving....pics just don't do it justice...

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I'm not sure. I bought mine from Codevape on eBay. Mine was from SXK and I was told that they were the manufacturer for Infinite. I've seen some other mods on eBay listed as SXK/Infinite.
 

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www.htlon.com

Interestingly enough the box is the same as what mine came in. They don't show the copper/red one on their website. Maybe they are a distributor like Infinite.

Mine came in a black box with the word "MOD" in gold on it. It also had a white sticker on it that reads "3900611004 HTLON Stingray Clone Red Copper" on it.
 

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The seller is kappakai78. Nice guy....great communication.
Did you see?
Caveat: Some of the buttons on the Red Copper and Black Copper Stingrays are a bit crunchy and can be inconsistent; however, there is a very easy fix:
- Remove the button
- Unscrew the white plastic magnet housing and remove
- There is another screw with a magnet under the white piece. Unscrew it 1/4 - 1/2 turn.
- Replace the white plastic magnet housing and screw back in.
- Do not over-tighten the button when you screw it back into the tube

Mine's not bad after I sanded down the edges of the switch. This seems to shorten the throw and didn't really seem to help mine.
 

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Did you see?
Caveat: Some of the buttons on the Red Copper and Black Copper Stingrays are a bit crunchy and can be inconsistent; however, there is a very easy fix:
- Remove the button
- Unscrew the white plastic magnet housing and remove
- There is another screw with a magnet under the white piece. Unscrew it 1/4 - 1/2 turn.
- Replace the white plastic magnet housing and screw back in.
- Do not over-tighten the button when you screw it back into the tube

Mine's not bad after I sanded down the edges of the switch. This seems to shorten the throw and didn't really seem to help mine.

Interestingly enough, I didnt experience any issues with the button right out of the box (It had a nice short, smooth throw, just like my brass Stingray clone)....I did though, as I do with all my mechs when I get them, take the mod completely apart and clean and polish every piece...I'm OCD like that...:ohmy:
 

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It might be a combination of the two. The smaller rice pins allow for the switch to giggle a bit and might be why the switch is digging into the tube. I ordered some nemesis pins, which I think are bigger, to try out.
I would be interested to hear how the Nemesis pins work for your SR switch. I'm still convinced that pin is the cause of most the crunchiness but haven't yet tried to find a replacement.

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I just got my red copper ray clone in the mail yesterday. Cleaned it and broke it all down and once assembled with atty and a battery the switch problems start lol I thought I was not gonna deal with this problem since my black copper stingray doesnt have a single problem. But I never touched or cleaned my switch either for that very reason. Seems like every stingray I own that I break down and give a good cleaning too has the infamous switch problem.

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Update:

Well I tried the longer Nemesis pin and I didn't really feel like it made much of a difference. I then got some finer sandpaper (1200 and 2000) and sanded down the switch smoother. I then coated the parts that slide with Vaseline. This is actually, what I've read, is the recommendation from J.D. Tech for the original Stingrays. Now my switch feels pretty damn good and doesn't seem to catch anymore. Maybe not buttery smooth, but pretty good and I'm now happy with it.
 
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Update:

Well I tried the longer Nemesis pin and I didn't really feel like it made much of a difference. I then got some finer sandpaper (1200 and 2000) and sanded down the switch smoother. I then coated the parts that slide with Vaseline. This is actually, what I've read, is the recommendation from J.D. Tech for the original Stingrays. Now my switch feels pretty damn good and doesn't seem to catch anymore. Maybe not buttery smooth, but pretty good and I'm now happy with it.
Thanks for the update on those pins especially. Haven't sanded anything down yet so guess I'll get busting on that tomorrow.
 
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