SXmini mod ... Yihi

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dannyben

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Options are good!

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Varitube posted they had just received the last shipment of the S class SXmini that they would be getting. They said production was over for this mod and Yihi would only be producing the M class (temp control) going forward. They did not give an update for the M class release date.
So if you want one of the current SXmini mods you need to get it now.
 

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Playing around with the SMOK VCT A1 "Vapor-Chaser"... The coil head offers adjustable juice control, and actually vapes quite well. :vapor: It's reading 0.56 ohms, and is at it's most flavorful with my vanilla custard @ 27 watts. I'm far from a cloud-chaser, but wanted to check out one of these new sub-ohm tanks. The flavor is excellent. :) The price wasn't bad @ around $25.00 shipped either, and it looks pretty good on the SXmini IMO. ;)

EDIT: I should add that using the above settings, Powerful mode was a bit too harsh. Soft mode however, adds a burst of flavor at the end of my draw which makes for an enjoyable vape. I am impressed with how far clearo-tanks have come. No leaking at all, no dry-hits @ 27watts / 0.56 ohms, really, really, good flavor, and vapor production off the charts. :thumb:

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The Sx mini arrived. I got mixed feelings when using it, feelings going unscathed to this day. The mod is robust, much ticker than the MVP, but the pointy bottom edges keeps poking the hollow of my big hand. It provides perfect DC power to the topper (it uses a syncronous rectifier) at very high power levels and, in my opinion, I regard this as the single most important distinguishing feature or the Sx mini, allowing to condone (albeit faintly) the rest of its inconguities.
The device has a lot of design overhead, and this is very important to me. The vast majority of e-cig mods (IPV, Cloupor, and other less regarded brands) use MOSFET transistors at the limit of their technical possibilities, and the autoctone transistors themselves are often overspecified; this leads to devices that will -sooner or later- fail with surefire certainty... well, this is not the case of Sx mini, designed with old-school parameters. A reliable piece of kit, the old western-fashioned way. Possibly, worth the 152 British Pounds (not including shipping) I paid for it.
But I keep fighting with it. This is because of the user interface. Who ever designed such twisted interface? Cannot adjust power right away.One button adjust the power envelope, the other switch between five power memories, but if you start one of the two function, the other button takes it too. Five clicks turn it off? In reality, recalls the menu system, from which you can turn the thing off by using the gravity sensor...
The charge indicator is on the main screen, which is off or power saving purposes. If you click the fire button to wake it up, you will always find the lightining symbol active, because the fire button will reactivate the charge every time. I found that if you activate the screen with the memory switch button, it will not start recharge and you will not see the lightning symbol. The Sx mini uses a proper charge algorithm, with a CV phase, so it will stand at 4.2 Volt for good twenty minutes, so the charge symbol is your only way to ascertain the end of charge; why make it so difficult to get at it?
The Sx mini has become a "case study" for all of these incongruities. It is the ONLY mod on the market to use a twelve bits ADC, which has brought the ohmeter with two digits after the comma (of outstanding precision), a battery charger and current/voltage protections of a level never seen before, a real time battery monitor, and a host of minor design features that I don't want to mention here. But why, why the interface seems designed by a team of drunk monkeys? This is what I said before; for myself - I've been a system designer for a living - and some other fellow vapers, the Sx mini has been the quiz for an entire weekend.
Initially, we propended for a form of team design gone awry. It happens that the design team chief is the one financing the all operation - and he/she has a giant ego problem to fix. In the world, Apple is such a successful company only because of their team-design ability and quality, and they put the 90% of their efforts in the interface design. Nokia made distinctly better phones than Apple, but Nokia died and Apple went to the Moon, just because of the interface. If the Sx mini only had the interface of the eLeaf iStick, it would be selling like hot cakes -but not. And is not matter of bad team efforts.
Only after having spoken with a friend who is familiar with the chinese industrial system we clarified our ideas about the 'Sx mini-Quiz'. It seems that 'cloning' for an able -and possibly successful- chinese businessman is a worse fate than eternity in the hell. This because their system prizes anything and anybody who make a monetary gain, and doesn't recognise intellectual theft. Therefore, to protect a quality piece of equipment you must include a feature or a part that cannot be otherwise sourced, or duplicated. He said that the strange menu system, intertwinned with the use of the gravity sensor, is the feature that could make the Sx mini unclonable for a good lenght of time.
Beside any explanation of the reasons, I have the best quality mod which makes me upset every time I use it. I would prize a software upgrade which make the Sx mini controllable just like the iStick, I would buy four or five of them, instead of trying to sell the one I have - without loss. Also, just in case Yihi is reading this post, please divide the number shown by the joule counter by 3600 and provide the possibility to mark start and stop it, as it would be wonderful to benchmark batteries in field use.
My congrats to Yihi for a device of quality never seen before; it needs key refinements in the user interface area. For the time being, it is an iPhone with a command-line interface.
 

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The lightning bolt goes away at the end of CV phase of charging. The problem is that it will reapper when you use the fire button to wake-up the display to see it. If you reactivate the display with the memory button, the display will wake-up without a load to the battery, and you will see the battery symbol without the lightning bolt on it.
The Sx-mini built-in charger is way better and more precise than the majority of common 18650 external chargers, as it is a protocol charger like the Pila IBC, but with more precise thresholds; I prefer to use the built-in charger over any external charger. It takes 6 hours to charge an empty Panasonic 3450 mAh (Hybrid NCR18650B Li-MnNiAlCo which is good up to 25 W; for more power you need to use IMR Lithium-Manganese, but they have shorter calendar and cycle life and smaller capacity. AW 2200 mAh are the only choice for 60W; Efest also OK but can't find genuine here) since I use a Nautilus full size with a BVC coil at 12.5 W. Higher power requires lower nic e-liquids in much higher quantities, which defeat the purpose (IMO) of convenient vaping.
 

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Do I need to clean the battery tube on my SX Mini? If so, what should I use to clean it? One of my attys leaked into the 510 of the SX Mini and I'm worried that the juice may have gotten inside the battery tube. I used a flashlight and looked inside and don't see any areas that look... gunked up for lack of a better term. The firing pin (? contact point? whatever it's called) has an area of wear that has silver showing through. I initially thought it was blackened but when I shined the light inside I could see that it was just worn away. I've no idea if that's just normal wear and tear or if it's due to juice leaking into the tube or what. I know someone may rag on me about safety but that's why I'm asking before I pop another battery in: I want to be safe.
 

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The Sx mini arrived. I got mixed feelings when using it, feelings going unscathed to this day. The mod is robust, much ticker than the MVP, but the pointy bottom edges keeps poking the hollow of my big hand. It provides perfect DC power to the topper (it uses a syncronous rectifier) at very high power levels and, in my opinion, I regard this as the single most important distinguishing feature or the Sx mini, allowing to condone (albeit faintly) the rest of its inconguities.
The device has a lot of design overhead, and this is very important to me. The vast majority of e-cig mods (IPV, Cloupor, and other less regarded brands) use MOSFET transistors at the limit of their technical possibilities, and the autoctone transistors themselves are often overspecified; this leads to devices that will -sooner or later- fail with surefire certainty... well, this is not the case of Sx mini, designed with old-school parameters. A reliable piece of kit, the old western-fashioned way. Possibly, worth the 152 British Pounds (not including shipping) I paid for it.
But I keep fighting with it. This is because of the user interface. Who ever designed such twisted interface? Cannot adjust power right away.One button adjust the power envelope, the other switch between five power memories, but if you start one of the two function, the other button takes it too. Five clicks turn it off? In reality, recalls the menu system, from which you can turn the thing off by using the gravity sensor...
The charge indicator is on the main screen, which is off or power saving purposes. If you click the fire button to wake it up, you will always find the lightining symbol active, because the fire button will reactivate the charge every time. I found that if you activate the screen with the memory switch button, it will not start recharge and you will not see the lightning symbol. The Sx mini uses a proper charge algorithm, with a CV phase, so it will stand at 4.2 Volt for good twenty minutes, so the charge symbol is your only way to ascertain the end of charge; why make it so difficult to get at it?
The Sx mini has become a "case study" for all of these incongruities. It is the ONLY mod on the market to use a twelve bits ADC, which has brought the ohmeter with two digits after the comma (of outstanding precision), a battery charger and current/voltage protections of a level never seen before, a real time battery monitor, and a host of minor design features that I don't want to mention here. But why, why the interface seems designed by a team of drunk monkeys? This is what I said before; for myself - I've been a system designer for a living - and some other fellow vapers, the Sx mini has been the quiz for an entire weekend.
Initially, we propended for a form of team design gone awry. It happens that the design team chief is the one financing the all operation - and he/she has a giant ego problem to fix. In the world, Apple is such a successful company only because of their team-design ability and quality, and they put the 90% of their efforts in the interface design. Nokia made distinctly better phones than Apple, but Nokia died and Apple went to the Moon, just because of the interface. If the Sx mini only had the interface of the eLeaf iStick, it would be selling like hot cakes -but not. And is not matter of bad team efforts.
Only after having spoken with a friend who is familiar with the chinese industrial system we clarified our ideas about the 'Sx mini-Quiz'. It seems that 'cloning' for an able -and possibly successful- chinese businessman is a worse fate than eternity in the hell. This because their system prizes anything and anybody who make a monetary gain, and doesn't recognise intellectual theft. Therefore, to protect a quality piece of equipment you must include a feature or a part that cannot be otherwise sourced, or duplicated. He said that the strange menu system, intertwinned with the use of the gravity sensor, is the feature that could make the Sx mini unclonable for a good lenght of time.
Beside any explanation of the reasons, I have the best quality mod which makes me upset every time I use it. I would prize a software upgrade which make the Sx mini controllable just like the iStick, I would buy four or five of them, instead of trying to sell the one I have - without loss. Also, just in case Yihi is reading this post, please divide the number shown by the joule counter by 3600 and provide the possibility to mark start and stop it, as it would be wonderful to benchmark batteries in field use.
My congrats to Yihi for a device of quality never seen before; it needs key refinements in the user interface area. For the time being, it is an iPhone with a command-line interface.

Different strokes for different folks... I've used many devices in the 4+ years I've been vaping, and quite like the SXmini's interface. It's no trouble at all to make fast wattage adjustments with the buttons.. The memory pre-sets are adequate for just about any build I have around, and I actually enjoy using the gravity sensor.. (I find that I don't need to use it much though) ;) :)

As I posted before, YiHi is supposed to be working on including a completed charge indicator in the next firmware upodate. The SXminiJ M Class coming next month will have rounded bottom corners, and more than likely will address the few QC issues the SXmini has. The temp-protection has been confirmed as working and accurate also. I'm looking VERY forward to it. :)
 

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Do I need to clean the battery tube on my SX Mini? If so, what should I use to clean it? One of my attys leaked into the 510 of the SX Mini and I'm worried that the juice may have gotten inside the battery tube. I used a flashlight and looked inside and don't see any areas that look... gunked up for lack of a better term. The firing pin (? contact point? whatever it's called) has an area of wear that has silver showing through. I initially thought it was blackened but when I shined the light inside I could see that it was just worn away. I've no idea if that's just normal wear and tear or if it's due to juice leaking into the tube or what. I know someone may rag on me about safety but that's why I'm asking before I pop another battery in: I want to be safe.

As long as the gasket around the 510 pin is not broken, juice should not be leaking through to the battery. I had a broken gasket on my 1st SXmini, and could see the juice around the seal inside the battery tube. I would just take a Q-Tip and some alcohol to the contact inside the battery tube if it looks oxidized, clean it up, and call it good. :)
 

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Just watched PBusardo's review of the Joyetech Delta II ... I think it speaks volumes that he is using the SXmini.. The man prefers the ProVari, but the P3 lacks the wattage to push these sub-ohm clearo-tanks. He has a plethora of other devices at his fingertips, and did pick up a VaporShark in the review to compare other tanks, BUT.... chose the SXmini as his review device of choice.. :2cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruf6FbcEKi8
 

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Just watched PBusardo's review of the Joyetech Delta II ... I think it speaks volumes that he is using the SXmini.. The man prefers the ProVari, but the P3 lacks the wattage to push these sub-ohm clearo-tanks. He has a plethora of other devices at his fingertips, and did pick up a VaporShark in the review to compare other tanks, BUT.... chose the SXmini as his review device of choice.. :2cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruf6FbcEKi8

Well, the DNA 40 would barely get the delta going. I find that the tanks sweet spot is between 40-50 watts. It does vape nice around 30 but flavors really start to pop around 40 and up. This is on a stock coil, I haven't monkeyed with the rba yet.
 

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Feeling so conflicted. I'll be either buying the SXMini M or a DNA40.

On one hand, I want to support an american company who is truly one of the innovation leaders in our market. Yet on the other hand, I love the look of the SXMini and feel it might actually be the better device overall.

Choices... choices.
 

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I'm surprised how much I'm liking the flavor from this SMOK VCT A1 clearo-tank... I dropped down to 25 watts / 0.56 ohms from 27 to better suit a flavor swap from vanilla custard to butterscotch, and it's really tasting good. :) For anyone thinking the SXmini's power modes are hype.. trust me, they're not. ;) They work quite well to bring different flavor notes to the party for certain.

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I am liking this SMOK tank enough to pull the trigger on their Gimlet Cloud Tank Ni-200 in anticipation of the arrival of my SXminiJ M Class next month.. ;) :)

SMOK Gimlet Cloud Tank Ni-200

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Feeling so conflicted. I'll be either buying the SXMini M or a DNA40.

On one hand, I want to support an american company who is truly one of the innovation leaders in our market. Yet on the other hand, I love the look of the SXMini and feel it might actually be the better device overall.

Choices... choices.

While your patriotism is enviable, that would be like comparing a Mustang (not that there is anything wrong with one) to a Lamborghini.... with the Lambo being cheaper. ;)
 
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