Taifun GT: Real vs Clone

[ZeroOhm]

Did the taifuns you guys receive from FT have the SS deck? Mine should be here next week.

FT? Ordered mine 18 Nov, FT Shipped it 30 Nov with SGP, Delivered UK 14 Dec ...... If it was ordered from FT it's an ongoing fiasco, I didn't raise a ticket until the day after I received it for the chrome plated deck other vapers had already raised tickets before they had actually received them as news hit all TF GT orders sent were plated (to my knowledge). FT stated they would send SS decks as advertised which they shipped to me 25 Dec.

12 Dec I ordered a TF GT SS tank Shipped 13 Dec with SGP Delivered UK 3 Jan

In the last few days some vapers have received there replacement SS decks and reports are there plated again!

The SS Tank is reported to only fit to to base not the top! I can't verify this as I don't have my TF here but given what's happened up until now nothing would surprise me, it will be a while before I get my replacement deck to check.

Given the 45 days for PayPal I have opened a dispute already if I am fortunate and everything is good I can always close it otherwise it's in the ring with FT although I am concerned with PayPal about there E-cig policies it may be so you have no protection when buying vaping gear and then vendor will be awarded which will make buying vaping gear from China/HK a rather precarious pastime. If i lived vapeside (US) i wouldn't bother given what some retailers sell gear for.

 

[nelsonm64]

Did the taifuns you guys receive from FT have the SS deck? Mine should be here next week.

apparently all taifuns ordered after dec 7th have the SS deck. did you order before dec 7?

 

[23skidoo]

I received my Taifun from Fasttech on the 31st of Dec and the deck looks plated to me. Also, the little sleeve that is pushed down to make coiling easier gets stuck in the down position to the point I need to get pliers on it to work it back up. I have the metal tank from FT as well and now I'm worried it won't work. Guess I'll find out next time I have to fill the tank.

I like the idea of this atty even if it's just a GIANT Protank basically. The size is ridiculous to me but it looks to be a nice setup for microcoils and cotton. I just need to get the hang of how much cotton.

 

[ZeroOhm]

I received my Taifun from Fasttech on the 31st of Dec and the deck looks plated to me. Also, the little sleeve that is pushed down to make coiling easier gets stuck in the down position to the point I need to get pliers on it to work it back up. I have the metal tank from FT as well and now I'm worried it won't work. Guess I'll find out next time I have to fill the tank.

I like the idea of this atty even if it's just a GIANT Protank basically. The size is ridiculous to me but it looks to be a nice setup for microcoils and cotton. I just need to get the hang of how much cotton.

Give the deck a scratch to check, i have read too much from FT CS, sufie and geek etc on the forums they stated that after whatever date all GT's and replacement decks dispatched were SS decks.

You would of thought they would of checked the TF orders assumption maybe but to send out hundreds of replacements and to make the same mistake begs belief, will FT suffer? Do i predict a dragon retailer will muscle in on there large share of the clone vaping market?

If FT have to send another deck it will be 9-10-11-12 weeks since it was purchased they have admitted they were at fault advertising SS.

I will find out next week if the SS tank fits, but if FT cant sort it out i am not vaping plated brass which may or not be a health hazard, i didnt stop smoking to take the risk. In the bin it goes!


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[23skidoo]

Yeah, I'm not gonna scratch the deck where the juice contacts it. I'm not super worried about brass, but why expose it if I don't need to? The deck looks nothing like the other SS items on the tank. It looks plated. Until that plating wears off or is damaged there isn't much to worry about IMO.

Now, if there is a way to remove or disassemble the deck area to scratch the bottom then I'll probably do that just to see. Is there a way to get the deck apart without ruining the thing?

 

[swhyte22]

I won't risk scratching the surface either due to clearly seeing it is chrome plated. I would also like to know, other than flaking off, would be the risks involved? Would juices get it to the point to flake? The juice, other than condensation, don't even touch the plate. At least, as far as I've noticed. I will be ordering the SS version, but would still like to know about this issue.

 

[nelsonm64]

I saw on FT that it's now shipping with the SS base. I'm tempted to get one to play with. I had a Fogger v2 and didn't care too much for it..even for it's cheap price. I'm not a fan of the design, I didn't get too much flavor out of it. I'd like to get the real one but if it's the same, I'm not crazy about paying $100+ more for it, plus it's always out of stock.

I'm leary of mystery metals.. I don't chrome plated anything.. if this thing is full SS I might try one.

you can't go wrong with a taifun gt Donnah. I love my taifun and, my buddy has a clone and it's spot on to mine! leaps and bounds ahead of the fogger v2...

 

[bapgood]

Sorry I didn't read through the whole thread but below are a couple of my posts from another thread.

One note is that I did see someone claim that all the parts are interchangeable....In my case this is not true. The tanks interchange, but the chamber sleeve, chamber sleeve top, and chimney tube weren't all interchangeable for me. Sorry I don't remember which parts exactly and etc. But one or the other of the chimney tubes wouldn't fit into the other chamber sleeve top. The parts are very close, but do have subtle differences.

Ok my initial out of the box brief overview and notes....

It's a fairly well made unit. One of the tanks had tight threads on the plastic threads, but they should loosen up overtime....however I plan on swapping out to the full clear plastic tanks.

The real Taifun GT tanks fit and thread on nicely.

Threading seems pretty good for the most part, as well as the machining. There is definitely a clear difference in the machining and quality in general, but that should be expected.

Mine are fairly dirty, not extremely noticeable...but I always give a new atty a good scrub down regardless if it came from China or Germany.

The stock air tube on the FT TGT is measuring right around 1.5mm compared to 1.2mm on the authentic TGT. I think this is a good thing, I have changed my air tube out to one made from a 14g which is about 1.5-1.6mm and I like it better in general and seems to feed more consistent than the 1.2mm.

Be cautious of completely removing the positive coil screw and the 510 center screw at the same time. The positive disk inside the base is fairly loose and likes to move around if both are removed and could be a problem to get all lined up. My experience wasn't to bad, I was able to get the 510 center screw started and just turned it until I could see the threaded hole for positive coil screw was lined up.

Its fairly obvious to tell just by looking that the center deck portion isn't stainless and that it is plated. Below is a pic of a small area ground just to show the brass under the plating.

Another thing is the chimney tube isn't as tight of a fit as the authentic TGT. The groove in the chimney tube that acts as stop for positioning it in "at use" position seems to be off, and is a little high....probably not a big issue.

The prototype ceramic kit does fit the counterfeit, but it's a noticeably looser fit......again probably not a huge deal.

So now it's time for me to give them a scrub down and coil and wick them up.











Wicked and coiled just like my original one is right now.....1.5mm 29g 10/11 wrap (I believe) for 1.6ohm, hemp doubled over at the channels.

The wick channels seem a little tighter when the chimney cap is tightened down???? I will measure next time I tear it down.

Putting the tank on showed the first of the counterfeits flaws. The loose chimney when it's up in the groove is loose so when I started screwing on the tank the chimney spun a little and pulled the wicks out of the channels. So after I fixed the wick ends I pushed the chimney tube down just a touch to gain a little extra friction, and it went together fine. Maybe a different oring would fix this.


So far so good on vape. I have found that the hemp likes a half hour to an hour to settle in and I'm not there yet. But so far it's acting like the original.

Here is the pick of the coil and wick.

I got curious to check out the insides of the FT TGT.....(I don't see a need to do this.....just mainly FYI)

I did manage to fix an annoying problem on one of my FT TGT's. On one of my FT TGT's the chamber sleeve was just a hair loose, so it would spin while tightening the tank on, it was driving me crazy. Half the time it would turn far enough to pull the wicks out. My other FT TGT is just fine.

I tried floss under the o-ring and it was either to tight or the same. So I took a pair pliers that I have heat shrink over the jaws and gave it a very slight squeeze. You can't even tell by looking at it that anything changed, but now it's snug and no turning while tightening down the tank. Very happy now

 

[ZeroOhm]

Sorry I didn't read through the whole thread but below are a couple of my posts from another thread.

One note is that I did see someone claim that all the parts are interchangeable....In my case this is not true. The tanks interchange, but the chamber sleeve, chamber sleeve top, and chimney tube weren't all interchangeable for me. Sorry I don't remember which parts exactly and etc. But one or the other of the chimney tubes wouldn't fit into the other chamber sleeve top. The parts are very close, but do have subtle differences.

Thanks for posting and the great pics, just to clarify it's a bit late here how do you strip down the deck on the FT TGT? Are the coil posts threaded?

 

[bapgood]

Thanks for posting and the great pics, just to clarify it's a bit late here how do you strip down the deck on the FT TGT? Are the coil posts threaded?

Define strip down?

The atty deck is pressed in, I wouldn't recommend taking it apart. As you can see there isn't much to see.

The negative coil screw, screws into the atty deck and is a shorter screw then the positive which passes thru the deck and screws into the brass plate which the 510 center pin also screws into. The coil post are just sleeves for the screws.

 

[rizzo777]

Feels like it's been a year since I placed my order from focal . Has anyone received it from there yet?

 

[ZeroOhm]

Define strip down?

The atty deck is pressed in, I wouldn't recommend taking it apart. As you can see there isn't much to see.

The negative coil screw, screws into the atty deck and is a shorter screw then the positive which passes thru the deck and screws into the brass plate which the 510 center pin also screws into. The coil post are just sleeves for the screws.

Many thanks, I might have a go with the plated one when I get my SS base. Cheers for posting.

 

[ZeroOhm]

Feels like it's been a year since I placed my order from focal . Has anyone received it from there yet?

Looks like mine is here but I need to collect it. Got two other orders from them last week so all good.

 

[rizzo777]

Can you please share with us how the TGT quality is like from focal when you get to it? Thx!

 

[Commie]

TGT clone quality is making me very sad. Once I get it put together, it's about the best vape I've had. Here are the troubles I'm having:

1. Threads are in a bad way. It's very difficult to catch them just right and not strip them
2. O-ring on the chimney is too tight. It ends up turning the atomizer head, messing up my wick. I noticed that I have to lubricate it with juice, which helps
3. The chimney keeps popping out of the top cap. Makes for some fun refilling, cause I never know if it will stay with the cap, or in the atomizer. Tried gluing it in place a few times, but it never comes out perfectly straight, and ends up not fitting into the atomizer head.

Other than that, it's an amazing vape

 

[Thrasher]

Feels like it's been a year since I placed my order from focal . Has anyone received it from there yet?

mine just hit the states. ordered dec 23rd

 

[ZeroOhm]

TGT clone quality is making me very sad. Once I get it put together, it's about the best vape I've had. Here are the troubles I'm having:

1. Threads are in a bad way. It's very difficult to catch them just right and not strip them
2. O-ring on the chimney is too tight. It ends up turning the atomizer head, messing up my wick. I noticed that I have to lubricate it with juice, which helps
3. The chimney keeps popping out of the top cap. Makes for some fun refilling, cause I never know if it will stay with the cap, or in the atomizer. Tried gluing it in place a few times, but it never comes out perfectly straight, and ends up not fitting into the atomizer head.

Other than that, it's an amazing vape

Ouch ..... hope you get it worked out, replacing O-rings? Mileage varies so much with each clone there clones after all. Didn't have any problems with the FT clone apart from the plating, will have to wait and see how the FC one is, will post back when I can but still beat FT by 5 weeks and counting.

Really liked the vape the few times I built it (FT clone) before I put it away awaiting the FT replacement deck. I missed buying a real GT in the classified a couple of weeks ago I may have to look out for one in the future.

Glad the vape is good and you get it all ironed out.

 

[Commie]

Ouch ..... hope you get it worked out, replacing O-rings? Mileage varies so much with each clone there clones after all. Didn't have any problems with the FT clone apart from the plating, will have to wait and see how the FC one is, will post back when I can but still beat FT by 5 weeks and counting.

I actually pretty happy with it, despite the issues. Now that I know that the vape is good, if I can't work out my issues with the clone, I think I might get the real thing. Cause all my issues are quality related, rather than concept/construction in general.

 

[rizzo777]

K guys I got mine. The deck is SS but need help setting this up. First tried cotton and tastes burnt then SS same thing. Also the draw is TIGHT.. ugh.. any suggestions?

 

[iowajosh]

TGT clone quality is making me very sad. Once I get it put together, it's about the best vape I've had. Here are the troubles I'm having:

1. Threads are in a bad way. It's very difficult to catch them just right and not strip them
2. O-ring on the chimney is too tight. It ends up turning the atomizer head, messing up my wick. I noticed that I have to lubricate it with juice, which helps
3. The chimney keeps popping out of the top cap. Makes for some fun refilling, cause I never know if it will stay with the cap, or in the atomizer. Tried gluing it in place a few times, but it never comes out perfectly straight, and ends up not fitting into the atomizer head.

Other than that, it's an amazing vape

That is the same experience that I've had except one of my wire hold down screws has really tight threads. I tightened something down and now the deck usually stays with the bottom cap when I screw it apart. The threads are too fine and seem like a cross thread waiting to happen. It is a really nice vapor machine though. I ordered another. I think comparable to a kayfun except less parts to drop in the garbage disposal right when I should be sleeping.