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Skypea

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I enjoyed reading your vape shop adventures Pawpaw. I should follow suit.

And Uncle, I kinda agree with you about the closed system. I picked juul. Just because I have a bunch of the batts and some ovns that fit the pods and a cute lanyard to hang them. I have boxes of empty pods I got cheap. I tried one out yesterday and it wasn’t bad. But I sure dragged on my sub ohm asap when the experience was over. I do like my clouds.
 

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You'll find this common in retail. Retailers like to deal with only one or 2 suppliers to keep their purchasing volume at a level where they receive X% wholesale discount. If they buy a little here and a little there, then their price goes up because they don't meet the threshold for a better discount on inventory.

However, I do find it odd that he would rather stay out of stock of something than buy some, even on Amazon, to keep his customers happy. That is a bad business decision on his part. Stay out of stock long enough and customers will find another source.

All in all, sounds like you have a decent shop there. I suspect this is not the norm these days in the USA.

Put a ''agree'' on your post because i think you hit the nail on the head with your last phrase.
I think it's more of a situation that happens in the US and Canada,here in Europe it does work differently.

Yeah we got the big supermarkets where you can buy anything from cheese to a Playstation 5 but we still use a lot of the privately owned Small businesses.
Like 2 blocks from my home we actually got a cobbler,family owned bussiness which the current owner inherited from his pops.
He is the guy that patches up my shoes,or maybe put them in that thingy to stretch them out a bit if my feet hurt or maybe just makes another hole in my belt,he knows my name and when i walk in he always asks how my pops is doing.

Difference in shopping habits i think has to do more with geography and customs than anything else.
It does sadden me to hear vape shops get so much bad rep over there in the US,i mean i don't know if it's deserved or not but it still saddens me.

Shop owners here are different,it's like the theme song of that ol' tv series Cheers:

Sometimes you want to go
Where everybody knows your name
And they're always glad you came

I don't know how it happens over in the US but over here a lot of people actually quit smoking because of vape shops.
Got one in the town i live and when i go to Valencia or Alicante (bigger cities) i got a couple more i like to visit once in a while.
Seen new clients walk in,type of customer that never vaped before but wants to quit smoking and all i saw from the owners or employees is a willingness to help them get started.

They took the time to walk them thru all the choices and never recommended them any of the ''higher end'' gear just to make more money on a sale.
I have seen people going in the store as newbies and the owner/employee could have easily sold them gear and e-liquid worth a couple hundred euros but they didn't do so,they just steered them in the direction of a nice starter kit to get them started and not have them overwhelmed with all the learning that comes from using a RBA with a mod that uses a replaceable battery.


I think that also a determing factor has to do with the distance,i mean i still remember when i lived in Canada all those hours i spent in the car driving to places,everything was so far away...20 km to highschool,another 15 km to the supermarket and so on and so on.
In that case well yeah save yourself a trip because you can just order whatever you want and have it delivered to your front door.

Here in the town i live,i grab the car and park in the centre of town and i basically have all i need in a 2 km radius,from banks to specialty shops of anything that you can think of.

Me personally? if were in a better economic situation i would buy exclusively at my friends vape shop,feels good to support the local bussinesses but you know sometimes you on a budget so you gotta look out for offers and try to save money when you buy something.
 

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Well this thread peaked my curiosity about my local vape shops. There are 2, the rest are cigarette shops that sell vape gear.

However, I have no ambition to actually go and visit either of them.

So I decided to call and ask if they sell rebuildable atomizers.

Store 1: Didn't answer the phone. Message stated they are "too busy to answer right now", yet the phone only rang one time before message picked up lol.
Will try later? Not sure.

Store 2: "We might have a couple RDAs laying around here, I'd have to check, but we mainly just carry the easy stuff. People mostly want pods and things like that around here."
 

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Remind store owners that abandoned vapers are a new customer base for them. Coils, etc should have a high sales footprint/sq foot.

It's hard to pickup a meal without being from a chain.

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Abandoned vapers or abandoned stores?
I mean from what i gather no one goes to vape shops,all they do is order online.
That is basically why (i am guessing) vape shops had to adapt to stay afloat,so if they just sell pods that is because that is all that customers wanted.

Can't really expect a small shop to have a wide selection of other vaping gear apart from pods if no one is buying it,that is just inventory that is money out of their pocket.

Not really up to date with what will happen to vape shops in the US,when it comes to the law i mean.
But yeah it will probably take them some time to adapt to the ''new'' customers and their needs.
 

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    I would love to support the local shops... if they had what I am looking for.

    The nearest B&M vape shop to me used to carry stuff that I might be interested in, if I really wanted to spend 2-3x what I could pay for it online+shipped. Every so often I would take the plunge and get something, just for fun. Just to support the local stores.

    Years ago I actually talked them into carrying squankers. When I noticed that they actually had some in stock I not only bought one, but a week or so later came in an bought another one. (another color) When I went back days/weeks later to get yet another different color they were all out of them. Must of sold well.

    My last visit showed the usual wall of juice options and cases filled with pod-mod and drop-in coil starter kits. Feeling like I wanted to buy something I picked up a refillable pod starter kit and some flavored 35mg salts juice. While it was not quite as bad as I thought it would be (I refilled the tank a few times) then novelty quickly wore off and it sits unused on a shelf somewhere.

    My state now has a %65 tax on all tobacco vaping stuff so I'll likely never buy anything again.

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    Can't sell rda's without proper training, sounds like you passed up a job opportunity, maybe even full time! Seriously, that's like 'I knew a guy who took 7 tabs and thinks hes a glass of orange juice about to be spilt at any moment' right? They can't have made laws on that, please? Although I see batteries getting a little harder to get one day, not rda's, for God's sake
     

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    A vape shop recommend another shop, in downtown Charlotte.
    They have the Dpro by CoilArt for $20. But it is an hour away.
    I asked if I could bring my puppy, and he said no problem.
    So Natasha and I might be going for a ride this afternoon.

    So did you ever make that trip?
     
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    Reading this thread also has me rethinking my stance. I will give B&Ms another chance. I know they’re not all the same, but one thing the ones I went to all had in common was they overcharged on like everything. And not just a little. I’m new here, not new to vaping but when I learned of the mail ban I decided to stock up. First it was juice. Then coils. Then mods. Which led to the desire to finally get into RBAs. Which led to a desire to talk to other way more knowledgeable vapers. A little history if I can bore you for second...

    My first experience with vapes was my online purchase of the Liberty Flights pen vape I forget the name of it back in like 2011 or something. It did help me quit smoking but it was a PITA and the juice that I had was....awful. I’m sure y’all remember or know about those little bottles of juice that was pure pg or pure vg. Anyway it wasn’t long before I quit vaping.

    A few years later sub ohm was exploding. A couple of friends are blowing clouds. I was intrigued and tried it. Whoa. “What’s that?” He said “unicorn puke”. I laughed and pretty much then knew I was going to get one. He told me to get a Kangertech subtank and the rest is history. Been vaping sub ohm DL mods and tanks with stock coils.

    But now I’m moving to squonks with RDAs. I’m still gonna use my other gear because I have a ton of coils now but yeah.

    I will always need juice (I do have liquid nicotine otw just in case though). I will always need coils whether it’s prebuilt or wire. And I will always want innovative new squonks, like the SXmini x class auto squonker but with way more juice capacity. Or like if the topside dual had really good TC. Whatever technology that will help avoid dry hits.

    Shops could be the place I get these things. I don’t mind spending some extra money to support the local shops. The problem was to the extent I was being overcharged when I first started going to vape shops before I went online. I probably could have found a better shop but not the ones around me. I hope the landscape changes to where they feel they can lower their prices with the new volume in sales from the now offline people.
     
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    they overcharged on like everything....The problem was to the extent I was being overcharged when I first started going to vape shops before I went online.

    To be fair, they don't really "overcharge". They charge what they have to charge to pay rent, pay bills & taxes, make a living, eat, raise children, go on vacation, save for retirement, pay for health/life insurance...just like everyone else. Vape shops are boutiques, niche retailers so prices will always be significantly higher than online shops because there is no other way in order to stay in business.
     

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    To be fair, they don't really "overcharge". They charge what they have to charge to pay rent, pay bills & taxes, make a living, eat, raise children, go on vacation, save for retirement, pay for health/life insurance...just like everyone else. Vape shops are boutiques, niche retailers so prices will always be significantly higher than online shops because there is no other way in order to stay in business.

    I see. So they need to sell it for over twice what they pay for it to not only stay in business but to be profitable?
     

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    I see. So they need to sell it for over twice what they pay for it to not only stay in business but to be profitable?

    Manufacturer's cost + Shipping + Rent + Electric + Heat/ Air conditioning.
    Income taxes + Employee wages + State and Local regulations and taxes.
    What ever is left goes towards food and shelter.
    Yea, owning a small business is expensive.
     

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    I see. So they need to sell it for over twice what they pay for it to not only stay in business but to be profitable?

    The overhead of a retail B&M is vastly higher than a online store, hence the higher prices.

    As an example, during this pandemic I've mostly stopped going to the local store(s) as I can get most of what I want/need online+delivered for less money (and don't have to wear a mask).

    Online stores have been putting B&M's out of business for years.


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