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Smart B&M shops will change their biz model to include more vapers. Have you priced CBD products? And people accept those prices.

vaping will be more expensive than smoking. I suspect there'll be a push to have insurance cover the cost of pharma nrt's (prob in response to increase in smoking rates "due to the quarantine").

I did a search of vape shops in my area and was surprised. Several carried a nice selection, hardware and store juice at reasonable prices (not online $ but not horrible either). Just not what I use/style. The closest vape shops looked more like head/cigar shops. It took some digging.

I have no problem with p2p shipping if someone needs supplies where they can't get them. Maybe that's what we need to do.

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Madvapes also has B&M locations in and around the Charlotte NC area as well as other areas.
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I suspect we will see a hard push into the pod market by Philip-Morris and other tobacco companies.

You're right as far as I'm concerned.

I don't know if PM still holds stake in Juul, but RJ Reynolds owns Vuse, which is rather popular and I hear it's not that bad. But of course all the Vuse models are closed systems, not refillable, you have to buy pod after pod after pod. But they have an accepted PMTA and I'll eat my shorts if they don't get approved.
 

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    I was going about this all wrong...
    We don't need Vape Shops because all we need is to wait by the Mailbox for advertisements. Like the one I got yesterday that says "Meet IQOS". It is a pocket system that heats tobacco instead of burning it, brought to you by ... (drumroll please) ... Phillip Morris.
     
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    I was going about this all wrong...
    We don't need Vape Shops because all we need is to wait by the Mailbox for advertisements. Like the one I got yesterday that says "Meet IQOS". It is a pocket system that heats tobacco instead of burning it, brought to you by ... (drumroll please) ... Phillip Morris.

    This is what is soon to be the largest issue:

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    (@Fidola13 post from yesterday)

    What is that, 91% tax?
     

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    I am coming up with 182% total taxes on $19.95 of product.
    But I am old, maybe my math is old, too.

    Lol.. no, I did the same thing at first so if your old then I am too...

    the 18.10 was the total of the two taxes with the total isted first followed by the breakdown: state sales tax on top of state vapor tax..

    $14.96 + $3.14 = $18.10

    What's that going to be when the FED'S stick their fingers in the pie for their slice? Then it'll probably be 182%.. lol. But they havent started yet..
     
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    I don't know about the other taxes, but the 6.25% state sales tax is being calculated on the taxes.

    It's being calculated on the cost of the product as well as the shipping and state vapor tax - which is ridiculous to say the least. Since when is there a sales tax on shipping costs and on taxes... ?
     

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    It's being calculated on the cost of the product as well as the shipping and state vapor tax - which is ridiculous to say the least. Since when is there a sales tax on shipping costs and on taxes... ?

    It's not uncommon to charge sales tax on shipping and handling. Some states require it.

    But to charge sales tax on a tax, whether required by a state or not, should be illegal.
     

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    You might as well add MA and other states with such exorbitant taxes to the list of states they do not ship to. I can't see them making any sales under those circumstances. All I can say is God Bless Texas with our 8.5% sales tax. Yes, it's high but that's all we'd have to pay. And we are used to high sales taxes because of the lack of state income tax.
     
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    When I first was interested in vaping, I visited a local B&M here in NY. I tried to ask about vaping, and the owner basically acted like I was an informant or something. She watched me struggle to remember what goes into eliquid before she said my remarks "opened up the door" for her to be able to describe what VG and PG are. The whole conversation was like two lawyers talking.

    When I asked for a suggestion on a device, she basically said that she only carries what her customers ask for, and that these were the items. Couldn't tell me what eliquid to use as a cigar substitute. Basically couldn't tell me anything. I ended up buying an overpriced AIO and this "vanilla tobacco" eliquid that did not work for me at all.

    I don't know, I think back on it and imagine she must have been hassled a lot legally, but it seems like if you can't even say what VG and PG is or help someone get off tobacco, then for me, I wouldn't even open up a store.

    Thankfully I found the ECF and other online resources. Without which I would be completely lost and stuck on AIO land with "vanilla tobacco." I'm sorry for people who are stuck with B&M and hope they have a better experience. As for me, I'm stocked up and may visit another B&M one day for the novelty of it.

    Overall I'm depressed by the vaping scene in my part of NY. I've seen maybe one person vape in 2020. Just a bunch of cigarette smokers. No offense to cigarette smokers. Not their fault to be fed misinformation. I just think that NY couldn't care less about their health. I hope they get better experiences at vape shops than I have.
     

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    When I first was interested in vaping, I visited a local B&M here in NY. I tried to ask about vaping, and the owner basically acted like I was an informant or something.

    HAHAHAHA! I had the same thing happen to me in one of my local vape shop. The guy was spazing out! Showed me printouts of how they don't condone the use of bath salts or some crap.

    I was baffled. I asked him why he's telling me this. He replied that he thought i looked like law enforcement. :confused: I bought an evod tank off him and left, looking kind of disgusted. Never went back.

    About a year later I got wind that he was going out of business and went back and haggled some hardware off him for dirt cheap. :w00t:
     

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    When I asked for a suggestion on a device, she basically said that she only carries what her customers ask for, and that these were the items. Couldn't tell me what eliquid to use as a cigar substitute. Basically couldn't tell me anything.
    Some, a lot, or all vape shops in the US are like that now because of laws and :censored:. Good thing you didn't have an issue with a particular device and brought it in to ask a question about it. Even for a simple thing like, "I can't get this thing to turn on..", they can't touch the device, only tell you the correct way that would probably work for that model or whatever.
     

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    When I first was interested in vaping, I visited a local B&M here in NY. I tried to ask about vaping, and the owner basically acted like I was an informant or something. She watched me struggle to remember what goes into eliquid before she said my remarks "opened up the door" for her to be able to describe what VG and PG are. The whole conversation was like two lawyers talking.

    When I asked for a suggestion on a device, she basically said that she only carries what her customers ask for, and that these were the items. Couldn't tell me what eliquid to use as a cigar substitute. Basically couldn't tell me anything. I ended up buying an overpriced AIO and this "vanilla tobacco" eliquid that did not work for me at all.

    I don't know, I think back on it and imagine she must have been hassled a lot legally, but it seems like if you can't even say what VG and PG is or help someone get off tobacco, then for me, I wouldn't even open up a store.

    Thankfully I found the ECF and other online resources. Without which I would be completely lost and stuck on AIO land with "vanilla tobacco." I'm sorry for people who are stuck with B&M and hope they have a better experience. As for me, I'm stocked up and may visit another B&M one day for the novelty of it.

    Overall I'm depressed by the vaping scene in my part of NY. I've seen maybe one person vape in 2020. Just a bunch of cigarette smokers. No offense to cigarette smokers. Not their fault to be fed misinformation. I just think that NY couldn't care less about their health. I hope they get better experiences at vape shops than I have.

    I went to an actual B&M vape shop back when you could try ejuice before buying it, so we knew what flavors to buy for him etc.

    But I was more knowledgeable than the store owner, she didn't even know what a provari was or the difference between sub ohm nicotine intake and low consumption mtl vaping..

    She wanted to sit and argue with me over starting my husband who smoked heavily for more than 40 years on 18mg ejuice in a Kabuki tank - I actually had to sit and teach her, and she owned the store.
     

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    I'm surrounded by vape shops and did some looking around online. Outside of convenience store products, disposables, cbd, they all carried Smok. One store carried Geekvape and high end, og mechs, tanks. They also carried "nic shots" to bump up nic content (synergy- that stuff is scary imo).

    I'm kinda concerned that one manufacturer is dominating the local stores. I'd request that they carried more but I'm not a good customer since I doubled my stocking up budget when I realized there weren't good alternatives locally. I emailed a few shops in case they have stuff that wasn't featured.

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    HAHAHAHA! I had the same thing happen to me in one of my local vape shop. The guy was spazing out! Showed me printouts of how they don't condone the use of bath salts or some crap.

    That's hilarious! I guess we don't have the faces for undercover work. Although someone once told me I have a good face for radio, so I should be all set.
     
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