TANK or MECH MOD

[devauto]

so i jus order a innokin itaste vtr for the prices of $65.00 and the reviews i seen , this is a bang for the buck . only downside i read was that the iclear 30s start to leak - anyone reccommend any option to switch to?

Okay, because the VTR has the ring at the top of the tank area, your choices are going to be limited, unless you are willing to modify the VTR and cut off the metal band. That said, I would recommend that you look at the Kanger AeroTank (not the AeroTank Mega). It is supposed to be exceptional, it is easy to use, and it will fit in the ring on the VTR. If you don't mind using the extension tube and mounting the tank on top of the VTR, instead of down inside it, then almost anything is fair game. If you want good production from an easy to use tank, then go with the AeroTank Mega, or the Aspire Nautilus. If you don't mind building your own, then the Kayfun Lite Plus is supposed to be exceptional.

Personally, I like my Genny, the Z-Atty. It has by far the best performance of anything I have tried. I have NOT tried a KFL+ yet, so that might change at some point, when I do get a chance to try the KFL+. Everyone has their own different likes and dislikes, so you will probably get a ton of answers that are all different. It will be interesting to see what you end up with and how you like it.

Good luck, HTH and as always ... YMMV!

 

[edyle]

are these russian kayfun clones rebuildable with cotton ?? they work well with the innokin vtr?

the kayfuns are pretty popular; svoemetro kayfun; svoemestro also makes the semovar mod.

the russian is similar to the kayfun; theres the russian, the russian91% and I hear there's also a mega russian; not sure who the manufacturer is.

Yes they are both bottom coil rebildabes that can use cotton.

They might not fit best with the vtr because the vtr can take the tank on the side if it isn't too big; otherwise you use the vtr extension ring and put the big tank on top;

the vtr only takes an 18650 battery.

many tube mods, like the vamo, provari, and lots of mechs, allow for using either 18650 batteries or the shorter 18350 battery in short mode.

Since you already have a mech, you should consider getting a kick module; a simple sigelei $10/$20 kick would give you vw; that's a pwm kick which gives you a chopped output; or there's the evolv2 kick which gives a flat dc output.

to use the kick in the mech, you'd want add a kick ring, or else you'd end up having to use a shorter battery to fit the kick inside; so instead of an 18650, you use an 18500+kick; the kicks are usually about 15mm length.

 

[Bodog]

I think I would research more. I think you are having some confusion. "Tank" is such a broad category. There are carto tank set ups, atomizer tank set ups, and genesis style tanks. A mechanical mod could have any one of these tanks on top of them. I think you were more asking are tank set ups better or not as good as RDA dripping? My opinion is dripping is superior. But I think many peoples opinions vary about this.

 

[POTENTCITY]

the kayfuns are pretty popular; svoemetro kayfun; svoemestro also makes the semovar mod.

the russian is similar to the kayfun; theres the russian, the russian91% and I hear there's also a mega russian; not sure who the manufacturer is.

Yes they are both bottom coil rebildabes that can use cotton.

They might not fit best with the vtr because the vtr can take the tank on the side if it isn't too big; otherwise you use the vtr extension ring and put the big tank on top;

the vtr only takes an 18650 battery.

many tube mods, like the vamo, provari, and lots of mechs, allow for using either 18650 batteries or the shorter 18350 battery in short mode.

Since you already have a mech, you should consider getting a kick module; a simple sigelei $10/$20 kick would give you vw; that's a pwm kick which gives you a chopped output; or there's the evolv2 kick which gives a flat dc output.

to use the kick in the mech, you'd want add a kick ring, or else you'd end up having to use a shorter battery to fit the kick inside; so instead of an 18650, you use an 18500+kick; the kicks are usually about 15mm length.

thanks for the info guys - i read some e liquids mess up the plastic tanks . i see these kayfun lite and the russian 91% come with plastic tanks , is that something ya went thru ? any glass rba ya reccomend?

 

[POTENTCITY]

I think I would research more. I think you are having some confusion. "Tank" is such a broad category. There are carto tank set ups, atomizer tank set ups, and genesis style tanks. A mechanical mod could have any one of these tanks on top of them. I think you were more asking are tank set ups better or not as good as RDA dripping? My opinion is dripping is superior. But I think many peoples opinions vary about this.

honestly i love my nemesis with a patriot and how it taste dripping e liquids , but theres times i cant drip and want something i can use that will give me the best taste to dripping . im hoping this vtr will do it somewhat for me , i also hear sometimes juices that are used at to high of a voltage dont taste to good - something i feel i go thru with my nemesis since i dont test my coils i just wrap them up and go

 

[edyle]

honestly i love my nemesis with a patriot and how it taste dripping e liquids , but theres times i cant drip and want something i can use that will give me the best taste to dripping . im hoping this vtr will do it somewhat for me , i also hear sometimes juices that are used at to high of a voltage dont taste to good - something i feel i go thru with my nemesis since i dont test my coils i just wrap them up and go

The vtr won't give you that. The vtr is just a vw battery mod.

You really want to look at a REO, or V-mod, semiautomatic dripper.

Or there's the 3d dripper which has a small tank/reservoir under the dripper deck, and when you press on it, some liquid shoots up to the coil.

 

[POTENTCITY]

The vtr won't give you that. The vtr is just a vw battery mod.

You really want to look at a REO, or V-mod, semiautomatic dripper.

Or there's the 3d dripper which has a small tank/reservoir under the dripper deck, and when you press on it, some liquid shoots up to the coil.

are you talking about the vamo v mods? the reo mods look good but a lil out my ball range right now

 

[edyle]

The v-mod is similar to the reo but it doesnt not have a tube going down to the bottle so you don't squonk the bottle to get the liquid up to the coil ; instead you do something reeeel simple - tilt to turn the thing upside down to wet the coil.

the reo and the v-mod are called bottom feeders.


another alternative is to use a genesis rba with cotton wick; you can vape of it directly, or you can drip on the deck if you want.

 

[POTENTCITY]

can i use the semi auto dripper on the vtr? i just ordered a vtr online just earlier you saying with a rebuildable rba with cotton i wont get a close to good taste as my nemesis clone ?

 

[edyle]

vapage vmod

uses a pretty small battery though

 

[POTENTCITY]

vapage vmod

uses a pretty small battery though

the vapage vmod gives a better taste then the vtr with iclear30s is what you saying?

 

[novamatt]

Ok, here's the thing. ANY decent variable mod will give you the same flavor at the same settings. The important thing is what your atomizer is. So with your patriot, the best match for that is your nemesis (or any mech mod). With a rebuildable tank, you'll get the best flavor from a variable mod. The only issue with the VTR is that a kayfun won't fit on it directly - you'll need an adapter. For some kits, this adapter is included, for others, you may need to purchase it separately.

The iclear30 is not going to provide the flavor you're looking for no matter what mod you attach it to. It's good for people who don't know how to build coils, but it won't be anything close to what you're used to on your patriot. As several people mentioned earlier, try a Kayfun Lite Plus clone from EHPro.

If you don't want to go to a tank, you don't need a variable voltage mod because your nemesis is a great match for any rebuildable dripping atty like your patriot. The variable voltage is a recommendation if you want to use a tank, in which case the Kayfun is the way to go, along with any decent variable voltage device. The iTaste MVP 2 is a great one if you're on a budget at like $60 or so, the VTR will be fine with an adapter, or you can go with a Provari if you have the $200 to spend and want something that lasts forever. But the one variable mod is not going to taste any different from another. It's all about which tank you put on it.

Does that make sense?

 

[novamatt]

Now the Vmod (and the REO) is something totally different. It's just like your nemesis, but with one major difference - it holds a bottle of juice inside it and has a system to drip that juice for you, instead of you pulling out your bottle and dripping it into the coil. For the Vmod, you turn it upside down and juice from the bottle inside drips onto your dripper. With a REO, you push on the bottle through the little window and it squirts juice onto the dripper. So it will taste exactly the same as your patriot and nemesis does.

A kayfun and a variable mod will taste different. Not in a bad way - I like some of my juices better in the dripper and some of them better in the kayfun. And some of them taste great both ways (but not usually the same). It's about how you control the power of your vape. A mech runs one power from the battery all the time, and you change how strong it is by the resistance you build the coil. On a variable mod, your coil doesn't matter as much, because you change the power from the battery by pushing a button or turning a dial on the mod.

So here's what it all comes down to: Do you want the same great flavor or do you want to try different (but still great) flavor?

If you want the same, go with the Vmod or a Reo. If you want different, get a Kayfun clone and a variable mod like in the post above.

I hope that helps you make sense out of all the conflicting information.

 

[edyle]

the vapage vmod gives a better taste then the vtr with iclear30s is what you saying?

The vapage vmod, and the reo are "drippers" like your patroit.

Except you don't have to drip with two hands.
The bottle is attached below the dripper.



The iclear30s and most other tank systems depend on a wick to draw liquid to the coil; if you vape too fast, the wick gets too dry; vape too slow, the wick gets too wet.

 

[tj99959]

Funny ... right now a dripper is on my Provari, and a carto tank is on my Nemmy.

 

[POTENTCITY]

Now the Vmod (and the REO) is something totally different. It's just like your nemesis, but with one major difference - it holds a bottle of juice inside it and has a system to drip that juice for you, instead of you pulling out your bottle and dripping it into the coil. For the Vmod, you turn it upside down and juice from the bottle inside drips onto your dripper. With a REO, you push on the bottle through the little window and it squirts juice onto the dripper. So it will taste exactly the same as your patriot and nemesis does.

A kayfun and a variable mod will taste different. Not in a bad way - I like some of my juices better in the dripper and some of them better in the kayfun. And some of them taste great both ways (but not usually the same). It's about how you control the power of your vape. A mech runs one power from the battery all the time, and you change how strong it is by the resistance you build the coil. On a variable mod, your coil doesn't matter as much, because you change the power from the battery by pushing a button or turning a dial on the mod.

So here's what it all comes down to: Do you want the same great flavor or do you want to try different (but still great) flavor?

If you want the same, go with the Vmod or a Reo. If you want different, get a Kayfun clone and a variable mod like in the post above.

I hope that helps you make sense out of all the conflicting information.

good info have you heard of the iclear 30b suppose to have the coil setup in the bottom?

 

[edyle]

those iclears, by the way, are plastic tanks; I'd consider them a step backwards.

 

[novamatt]

Funny ... right now a dripper is on my Provari, and a carto tank is on my Nemmy.

Right. I use a dripper on my evic (soon to be provari) but you and I are the outliers. I was trying to give him advice based on what the majority here like.

 

[novamatt]

good info have you heard of the iclear 30b suppose to have the coil setup in the bottom?

Yes. I tried one for a while and ended up giving it away. It was not my favorite tank by a long shot.

 

[POTENTCITY]

Yes. I tried one for a while and ended up giving it away. It was not my favorite tank by a long shot.

which kayfun clone ya reccommend ? i see they got the 3.1 and the russian