Ted Talks ~ no more the way it has been / should be

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Ive always found ted talks to be a bit pretentious and patronizing while at the core being a pantomime or parody of the profound and intellectual
Everyone Ive seen seems kinda tawdry, like a snake oil sales presentation, or an infomercial - Actually, I think thats what people like about them!
 

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    "It seems to me that she has swallowed the big pharma and big tobacco profit induced lobbying stance so prevalent in the US of A."
    I'm sure both the Ted Talks guy and the lady that talked were generously compensated for making available and putting out what they surely knew (?) was just a bunch of propaganda BS.
     

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    Some guy did do the first TED talk and I think it's some acronym IIRC, can't remember. I think its some foundation now can't remember.
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    Could very well be. I might just look it up later..
     

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    Ive always found ted talks to be a bit pretentious and patronizing while at the core being a pantomime or parody of the profound and intellectual
    Everyone Ive seen seems kinda tawdry, like a snake oil sales presentation, or an infomercial - Actually, I think thats what people like about them!
    I've found a few of the TED Talks to be interesting and informative. That few is very few though, so I'd have to 99.8% agree with your post, Jebbn.
     
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    I think I'd rather watch on YouTube then it's easier to yell at the screen.

    IDK Marsha Linehan did one I think and it SUCKED. She's normally very articulate in general. It was unfortunate (for me.) There were some I liked, but possibly did not know well enough about to yell at the present for mischaracterizing a postulate or whatever.

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    A few of the TED Talks I found to be interesting and informative. That few is very few though, so I'd have to 99.8% agree with your post, Jebbn.
    tbh, there have been a few that I found interesting and informative.
     

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    Um that Science is real sign?

    I hate to call philosophy on this one, but it's pretty worthless. Science is real, certainly. So is the imaginary unicorn riding scientist I have floating in my head now. It too is "real." It may be imaginary, but I can define it, I can describe it, and it is just as "real" as science. Science itself IS a religion or at the very least, a shared belief system in which persons who engage in the quest for science look to prove, or disprove, or just find out more about the real world, one observable by the senses, (or instruments designed to improve the senses in some way) that has repeatability, reliability and is based upon shared meanings and observations by those persons who look to observe the real world through the sense and etc.

    Now that is too long for a Ted Talk, but let's take Hume the causality guy, who basically sets out to prove that only correlation can be proved, but not causality. Granted, he had a bit less sophisticated instruments but if you sit around (drunk half the time) as I did, just musing on your philosopher of the week, I am going to tell you that was a fascinating week, and I think I got a little BETTER at pool, honestly, because I did not have to assume my skill was the prime motive, it was all correlation. It relieved a lot of my anxiety, and that made my skills improve. Of course, Hume would probably say it was a correlation between reading his works and my drunken desire to play pool, and I was STILL not the causative agent.

    Man, I miss college sometimes.

    However, the sign "Science is real" is NOT going to work for the idiots. They are gonna go, probably, but "all these stupid experiences that mean science is not real, it's just made up."

    People need to be educated perhaps with a sign that says, "As you are interacting with your world which no one can tell you 100% ABOUT and scientists get disproven ALL the time, it would behoove you to lean about the SCIENTIFIC METHOD, the underlying principles, the way it is constantly dialoguing with itself, proving, refining and disproving itself I MEAN DO YOU REMEMBER PLATE TECTONIC THEORY???? OMG that was SUCH A BIT "Stuff it to you" of all others theories of like, IDK continents, how mountains got made, how Pangea was once possible FOR ME it was like "Excitement mark!" because it explained SO MUCH.

    Then go tell all the global warming people how global cooling and the upcoming ICE AGE ANY DAY now was once a THING and ALL scientists believed it and sometimes you gotta go, "Science BELIEVES, based on the data so far, the postulates X, Y, and Z but we also have to be a) ready to be corrected b) repeatable c) reliable and d) not junk.

    Shoot I'm too wordy for this to be a sign.

    Maybe: Science is IMPORTANT. Learn what it is, what are its philosophical underpinnings, what is good science, what is incomplete science, and most of all what is JUNK science, and then GO FORTH AND DEMAND REAL science, backed up by its own religious or at least philosophical underpinnings as it is all we HAVE for understanding our SHARED realities and a good bet for making decisions, even though science is often incomplete, wrong, and constantly being corrected."

    "Science is real." That's not ONLY depressing it is FLAT OUT WRONG and probably would make things WORSE. SERIOUSLY.

    My dog is dead. That is real. I don't know how scientific it is, other than it's "Factual" but what if I buried him early and my fact sort of sucks and even now he is telling an ASPCA officer all about what a terrible owner I was.

    To be fair I was brought up by two highly educated PhD geneticists one of whom played a rather large role in curing the bubble kids (and enriching himself by getting the patent on gene therapy then selling his shares of stock.)

    Science is real is just not accurate.

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    TED talks reminds me of Christmas; they all sound like elves.

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    My dog is dead. That is real. I don't know how scientific it is, other than it's "Factual" but what if I buried him early and my fact sort of sucks and even now he is telling an ASPCA officer all about what a terrible owner I was.
    But in the science denying circles, your dog wasn't dead, as they all go to heaven ;)
     

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    One of my neighbors has a yard sign that says "Science Is Real". The fact that this is something that actually needs to be said is depressing.

    One of my favorite sound bites - America is the first post-rational society.

    Don't worry, we are close behind you with that.
     
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