Temerature Controlled Devices?

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I think he's talking about devices like the smok m80. I can get my rdna to work properly every time, but that smok is a liability and should not be used unless you really know what your doing. It will control the temp as long as the wick is damp enough though.

Maybe I didn't fully understand his meaning... My take was that he meant TC in general (all TP) and my reply was based on that....if he was speaking only about the clone then yep my post should be edited.. I agree Smok has a liability per what the video reviewer showed.... Any TC device is an advanced personal vaporizer and ya need to know what you are doing..
 

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After reading all the posts on this thread I'd kindly like to ask you guys what devices you guys are using?

I know we're all talking about the same chip the DNA 40, but isn't it fair to say that the inconsistencies could also be attributed to the hardware?
Maybe one device is more inconsistent than another, or more consistent simply because of the way they're soldered or because one makes a better connection to the board? Maybe there might be a pattern somewhere?

Just speculating here, I've read all about everyone's experiences but I have no idea what devices you guys are actually talking about other than their DNA internals.

I've just received a rDNA 40 a few days ago still playing with temp control, just ordered some titanium from e-bay looking forward to playing with that as well.
 

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After reading all the posts on this thread I'd kindly like to ask you guys what devices you guys are using?

I know we're all talking about the same chip the DNA 40, but isn't it fair to say that the inconsistencies could also be attributed to the hardware?
Maybe one device is more inconsistent than another, or more consistent simply because of the way they're soldered or because one makes a better connection to the board? Maybe there might be a pattern somewhere?

Just speculating here, I've read all about everyone's experiences but I have no idea what devices you guys are actually talking about other than their DNA internals.

I've just received a rDNA 40 a few days ago still playing with temp control, just ordered some titanium from e-bay looking forward to playing with that as well.

To answer your questions: (hopefully others can chime in) [just my 2-penny's]

I am using a DNA40 beta version built by Hana and several DNA40's and 25's that I put together.

Yes, inconsistencies could also be attributed to the hardware.

There may be a pattern of consistency between devices that all have a DNA board in them and also a pattern of consistency in different toppers..
 
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After reading all the posts on this thread I'd kindly like to ask you guys what devices you guys are using?...

I have an rDNA40 small screen from the first run and an rDNA40 with large screen from the first run of those. I've been using them with 2 GG Tilemahos RTAs, Infinite Magma clone and authentic Marquis. I've also been spending a lot of time checking out the Aspire Nautilus Mini and the Kanger Subtank Mini with Vapor Shark's Ni200 heads to see if they might work out for my sis and daughter who do not build.

The only issue I've had with anything is the Magma post holes cut the 32 gauge Ni200 wires for my first two builds. :( Everything else has worked exactly as it should.

That said, I was used to doing 30/32 gauge Kanthal, high oHm spaced coils a long time before I got my DNA40 devices so I didn't have any sort of ugly learning curve for building with Ni200. I also feel I lucked out on toppers that don't seem to have had any sort of 510 issues.
 

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After reading all the posts on this thread I'd kindly like to ask you guys what devices you guys are using?

I know we're all talking about the same chip the DNA 40, but isn't it fair to say that the inconsistencies could also be attributed to the hardware?
Maybe one device is more inconsistent than another, or more consistent simply because of the way they're soldered or because one makes a better connection to the board? Maybe there might be a pattern somewhere?

Just speculating here, I've read all about everyone's experiences but I have no idea what devices you guys are actually talking about other than their DNA internals.

I've just received a rDNA 40 a few days ago still playing with temp control, just ordered some titanium from e-bay looking forward to playing with that as well.

I use 2 rDNA 40s. One of which was rma'd due to screen glitch, an annoyance, not a deal breaker.
My problems with TP, at least at this point, were from my attys. The Nautilus would temp protect so fast that I could not get a good vape. Also, the new vertical coil seemed to restrict air flow quite a bit more than the horizontal (I used two heads only The others could have been ok >shrug<).
I just got tired of cleaning and tightening everything on my russ 91%.

Got two drippers and have been good since.

Your mileage may vary.


RCH
 

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I use the Vapor Flask and a DNA look alike I built myself. Much like RCHagy74 I found some atomizers performed better than others. Airflow plays a big roll in the performance of TP and a wonky atomizer just creates issues.

I have a K4 that I added Steam Tuners Kayfun V4 "Spring Update" to and it really improved the performance of the atty. The 510 pin connection to the base is vastly improved.

A will built dripper performs well for me about 99% of the time but again I only use titanium and the 24ga allows me to tighten the legs under the screws without problems. The TaiFun GTII also performs pretty well with the improved AFC.
 

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I stopped smoking Dec. 2013 and have vaped ever since. I consider myself a novice vaper and continue to learn about the "craft" of vaping daily. I describe my kind of vaping as lazy. I prefer RBA's, regulated mods and i primarily vape mouth to lung. I love where the industry is going and leveraging innovation along the way. It very similar to the revolution in the telecommunications industry over the last 20 years. I tend to be a "late stage" early adopter of technology. I didn't go in on the first version of the DNA40 but waited for a few bug fixes then jumped.

At the end of Jan 15, I picked up a Vapor Flask / 40, KF V4 and Subtank Mini with NI coils from VShark. My intent was to test out the new tech using pre-made nickle coils in the subtank and slowy work my way into making my own nickle builds on the KF v4. As things worked out the VF arrived, on the same day as the 28g NI200 and KF V4. That evening, I built my first 10wrap 3mm NI coil in the KF V4 and it worked on the first try. I changed temp up/down and experienced some of the best vaping I ever had. The ability to change the temp of the coil without rebuilding dramatically changed my perception of the eLiquid i considered to be my ADV. I could finally explore the nuances of the liquid that I had never experience before. The next day I went into my cabinet that houses the juice graveyard and I found a few juices that weren't quite right in my previous setups and I couldn't find the magical balance between heat, airflow and coil build resulting a less than pleasurable vape. Viola! with temp control I was able to redress a few liquids that eluded my palette.

A few observation;
- Inconsistent auto sense when switching from NI to Kanthal builds. My fix is to manually turn on/off temp control depending on the build. This is not a big deal for me as I kind of like the control and knowledge of what I'm doing...
- OHM detection is much better than DNA30's
- Power management seems to be improved
- Atomizer decks, post and 510 connectors need to be solid
- Twisted 28g Nickel is easy to use
- Spaced coils are my new(old) way of building coils now even with Kanthal
- Subtank Mini NI coils just work (so far)
 

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I find that to be a fear mongering statement, in that, a relative newb to vaping might be turned off vaping because "no one knows whats in the vapor". Sound familiar?

No experienced vaper vapes burning juice so the 'difference between kanthal "not burning juice" and actually controlling temperature' is just another fear claim. In the video, Brandon was relating to high power vaping.

ETA: after using two TC devices I concluded that TC is not necessary or even desirable for my purposes. How about letting people use their taste buds and personal experience instead of scare tactics.

I have to agree with you Ian to a point,and I'm always willing to be disproved.....but you are swimming against a tide,whether that tide is being caused by people who want to rationalize spending another 500.00 on vaping gear,......whether it's being caused by people who just want to wear the cloak of, "cutting edge", whether it's mod builders looking to profit from the latest vaping fad....or whether this tide is based on science is yet to be seen....
Alot of us have been through alot of "scares" over juice, wicking materials,wire ect....but too much money has already been spent to push this narritive, it will have to run it's course....we will have to wait and see....but to me it seems alot of people are enjoying it because of convineince.......I can taste when I'm burning juice...I can taste when my wick can or can't keep up with my coils. I don't vape below .8 generally, and .7 is tops for me....sure in the past I played with lower ohms but never below.4....I'm not sure if my style of vaping calls for TC....but I could be wrong...I will wait to see what unfolds, but I'm in no rush to go out and buy a dna 40.

It may be too soon, but I'd love to hear from people who do use TC..if they have noticed any physical changes in their health after switching to TC.
 
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That is not what Dr Fs study is studying, nor any other study I know of.

Dr. Farsalinos will be looking into, and testing devices with TP:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/e-cigarette-research-temperature-of-evaporation

*UPDATE

Many of you know that some new devices with the ability to control temperature of evaporation have ben developed. Two such devices have been announced. We have already obtained one of these devices, and we expect to get the other device soon.
We are going to test these devices, not only to see that temperature control is indeed a reality, but also (and most importantly) to see the levels of vapor production (which is a measure of satifaction for the vaper) and the effect of temperature control on aldehyde emissions to the vapor. The latter will show the true impact of temperature control on safety...
 

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Dr. Farsalinos will be looking into, and testing devices with TP

I am well aware of that.
I was replying to "what if the study concludes that temp control done poorly is worse than a good mech setup?"
The study is not testing a good mech setup (whatever that is) so that is a conclusion we will not see.
 

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I am well aware of that.
I was replying to "what if the study concludes that temp control done poorly is worse than a good mech setup?"
The study is not testing a good mech setup (whatever that is) so that is a conclusion we will not see.

That was silly comment anyway, there is no logical reason it could be worse than unregulated.
 

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I am well aware of that.
I was replying to "what if the study concludes that temp control done poorly is worse than a good mech setup?"
The study is not testing a good mech setup (whatever that is) so that is a conclusion we will not see.

While Dr. Farsalinos doesn't seem to be focusing on mechs, per se, he will be studying at what levels practicing vapers are able to detect nasty stuff in their vapor. In his interview with Phil Busardo he starts to discuss this at 29:44.
 
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While Dr. Farsalinos doesn't see to be focusing on mechs, per se, he will be studying at what levels practicing vapers are able to detect nasty stuff in their vapor. In his interview with Phil Busardo he starts to discuss this at 29:44.

Looking forward to reading his study results....Have ya heard of any time frame for completion of the study?
 
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