Temerature Controlled Devices?
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I agree with dr g, it's the future. It is an easy way to avoid vaping burnt juice and that is a good thing
It's no fad at all.
It is a continuation of a journey.
There was vv;
then there was vw which brought it closer to a consistent vape.
Now there temp control, which pretty much is what is really required.
Still early though; restricted to special wire.
It is the future but personally I think it was released and I jumped a little to quick. The technology is a little to fickle for the average user.
The technology is good but I believe it will get better.
For a device to work properly the RTA or RDA needs to be manufactured well. If the 510 pin or posts have any flaws the resistance will be inconsistent. If the contact points for the legs isn't solid your resistance will jump.
I use 24ga titanium and get a real nice vape, I find Ni200 to be a pain to wick.
Now all that being said I own two and use them all the time. They are not forgiving and learning to build and what atty can be used in the beginning is a little rough. It's my opinion that they best suited for the enthusiasts and not the average vapor. That I believe is a major flaw in the release of this product. If you claim to have a safer way to vape it should be designed for the beginner and experienced vapor.
The technology is good but I believe it will get better.
For a device to work properly the RTA or RDA needs to be manufactured well. If the 510 pin or posts have any flaws the resistance will be inconsistent. If the contact points for the legs isn't solid your resistance will jump.
I use 24ga titanium and get a real nice vape, I find Ni200 to be a pain to wick.
Now all that being said I own two and use them all the time. They are not forgiving and learning to build and what atty can be used in the beginning is a little rough. It's my opinion that they best suited for the enthusiasts and not the average vapor. That I believe is a major flaw in the release of this product. If you claim to have a safer way to vape it should be designed for the beginner and experienced vapor.
I have not tried TC but i would like to. I seams like the future to me but maybe a little early.
Now some of the tanks have pre made coils that can be used it may help it really take off.
Now some of the tanks have pre made coils that can be used it may help it really take off.
Have gotten two DNA 40 devices. They are all I use now (and no I am not going to sell my REO, back-ups for back-ups).
Decided on a couple cheap-ish RDAs to replace my Nautilus and RTA because of twitchy-ness in the latter.
I also agree Temp limiting is the future, but, only because it will probably be legislated in at some point if vaping itself is not legislated out of existence.
RCH
Decided on a couple cheap-ish RDAs to replace my Nautilus and RTA because of twitchy-ness in the latter.
I also agree Temp limiting is the future, but, only because it will probably be legislated in at some point if vaping itself is not legislated out of existence.
RCH
That's the problem; the way it's being done so far uses Ni200 wire at low ohms like 0.1 ohm, but 0.1 ohm could easily come from electrical contact points;
that low ohm operating range is a big hurdle that needs to be crossed otherwise temperature control won't be practical for consumer grade.
edyle, try the 24ga grade 1 titanium. 3/32 - 6 spaced wrap of 24ga will give you .20Ω. Set the TC at 280 and I vape it at 19W and the TC doesn't kick in, it's right on the edge of TP.
The 24ga is nice to work with and wicking is much easier.
The 24ga is nice to work with and wicking is much easier.
Possibly the future but seems to need something extra.
Some are fine with the nickel you currently need and others find the stuff too difficult to work with.
Some are fine with the nickel you currently need and others find the stuff too difficult to work with.
As far as I'm concerned it's the standard wire now
Consumer prebuilt coils are already on the market
As far as I'm concerned it's the standard wire now
Consumer prebuilt coils are already on the market
Yes, the Ni200 is THE wire that current technology has been able to utilise for temperature control purposes, however, maybe by next year or 5 a better wire will be developed in a more convenient operating ohms range.
As marc411 pointed out you need good quality hardware that doesn't add extra ohms to the coil if you have to operate that low.
It would be very easy to manufacture an atomizer that work 100% of the time with Ni200.
One simple addition a small piece of brass tube, was all it took for me to get those atomizers.
I think to make a better wire one needs a better material than Nickel, only so many elementals to choose from and any that we find new are high on the periodic table and naturally unstable. It does not have to be that complicated just make attys with stable connections.
One simple addition a small piece of brass tube, was all it took for me to get those atomizers.
I think to make a better wire one needs a better material than Nickel, only so many elementals to choose from and any that we find new are high on the periodic table and naturally unstable. It does not have to be that complicated just make attys with stable connections.
nickel is an element.
kanthal is an alloy developed for heating applications.
Now that there is a market for a heating alloy which also needs suitable resistance variation with temperature, it's only a matter of time before somebody makes one.
Temperature control is not a fad, ,,,, but the way it is currently implemented using nickel is likely to change
Seems just more hassle than what I need. I got in this to quit smoking not become a follower of the latest and greatest money maker.
No its not a fad. its a marketing trick to get me to buy that new Hana Modz... sooooo shiiiiiiny must have.
It already exists, it's called "titanium".
If you look into what causes resistance changes with temperature, you will understand why most pure (elemental) metals have this property to some extent, while it tends to decrease dramatically when you start alloying different metals together. One of the reasons that alloys such as Kanthal and nichrome have been commonly used as heating elements is because a high temperature coefficient is undesirable in most applications.
Rossum pointed me to titanium and it was one of the best things that happened with regards to TP. Why are people avoiding titanium as an option? I don't see many talking about it and in my opinion it's superior to Ni200. It's easier to work with, wicking is less challenging and my battery life has improved because I can get the same quality of vapor with lower watt/heat.
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