Temp Control and Low Wattage Vapers.

[BoomerFZ1]

Hey all...I recently received a Vaporshark rDNA 40 and have performed a few build with both NI200 and Titanium. On thing I'm noticing is this whole temperature control revolution might just be wasted on me as I usually vape at lower watts. On my most recent build with Titanium on a Lemo Drop, I started at 15 watts and found the vape a bit too hot for my liking. I dropped down to 13 watts and I think it's just about right. Now, at 13 watts, I can pretty much hold the fire button down constantly and not break 300F which is way below the temperature cellucotton burns. So, honestly, the only way temperature control benefits me is if I run my tank dry. Are my assumptions correct here or am I way off?

 

[edyle]

Hey all...I recently received a Vaporshark rDNA 40 and have performed a few build with both NI200 and Titanium. On thing I'm noticing is this whole temperature control revolution might just be wasted on me as I usually vape at lower watts. On my most recent build with Titanium on a Lemo Drop, I started at 15 watts and found the vape a bit too hot for my liking. I dropped down to 13 watts and I think it's just about right. Now, at 13 watts, I can pretty much hold the fire button down constantly and not break 300F which is way below the temperature cellucotton burns. So, honestly, the only way temperature control benefits me is if I run my tank dry. Are my assumptions correct here or am I way off?

So........ what's the situation? Is it that you set the mod temperature to stay below 300F ?

If you found 15 watts too high, couldn't you drop the temperature control to a lower value like 250F instead of dropping to 13 watts?

 

[crxess]

What the Op is saying is under the type of vaping they prefer to start with, Temp control adds no noticeable Value.

Oh, and Cellucotton does not burn. It Melts.

 

[dr g]

Temperature and wattage are not directly related.

 

[defdock]

i think i understand what the OP is trying to get across

the temp control, IMO was designed for them "crazy" vaper's who like to vape at 30+watts. for standard users in the 6-15W range, the temp control has absolutely no value as we dont let the coils get that hot in the first place, we prefer a cooler vape.



i can understand the need/want for control when you go for lower ohm coil setups/cloud chasing, but for an average user its just pointless

 

[fordp]

I imagine at low wattage when you get a dry hit it will help save you. Normally your coil isn't getting as hot because of all the liquid. This will save your coil and allow them to last much longer. You will see the benefit if your using tanks like a Nautilus Mini when they start coming out with Ni200 coils and you don't notice your tank is almost empty. Your coils will last longer and you will save money.

 

[BoomerFZ1]

i think i understand what the OP is trying to get across

the temp control, IMO was designed for them "crazy" vaper's who like to vape at 30+watts. for standard users in the 6-15W range, the temp control has absolutely no value as we dont let the coils get that hot in the first place, we prefer a cooler vape.



i can understand the need/want for control when you go for lower ohm coil setups/cloud chasing, but for an average user its just pointless

Exactly! Thanks. I mean I just think aside from knowing my Magma dripper is dry, I get no noticeable benefit from this temp control thing. I love to build and my Kayfun, Lemo and Erlkonigin are my home vapes but honestly, I think I might have thought more of this temp control thing than it is for my purposes. Sucks realizing something after you dropped $190 bones.

 

[defdock]

I imagine at low wattage when you get a dry hit it will help save you. Normally your coil isn't getting as hot because of all the liquid. This will save your coil and allow them to last much longer. You will see the benefit if your using tanks like a Nautilus Mini when they start coming out with Ni200 coils and you don't notice your tank is almost empty. Your coils will last longer and you will save money.

that may be the ONLY thing i can see being usefull.

 

[edyle]

i think i understand what the OP is trying to get across

the temp control, IMO was designed for them "crazy" vaper's who like to vape at 30+watts. for standard users in the 6-15W range, the temp control has absolutely no value as we dont let the coils get that hot in the first place, we prefer a cooler vape.



i can understand the need/want for control when you go for lower ohm coil setups/cloud chasing, but for an average user its just pointless

1: I respect your opinion that temp control was designed for them crazy vapers who like to vape at 30+watts

But IMO you have it backwards.

2: For standard users in the 6-15w range (btw I've got 1 coil at 6 watts 32 gauge 3.5 ohm, and the other at 12 watts 30 gauge 2.6 ohms, both on regulated mods), temp control - if designed properly - will utilise the 30 watt capability of a regulated mod to adjust automatically to get up to temperature fast, and maintain that temperature ("maintain that temperature" means keep constant - not any higher, not any lower) while you hold down the button.

 

[dr g]

It's like people don't remember burning cartos.

 

[tmel]

Just wanted to point out that you can make a 200w vape as cool as a breeze with the right airflow.

 

[stevegmu]

Yeah, pretty much useless for me. I mostly use carto tanks at low power...

 

[dr g]

Yeah, pretty much useless for me. I mostly use carto tanks at low power...

Cartos are conceptually one of the best applications for the technology.

 

[KC33]

I think I might have thought more of this temp control thing than it is for my purposes. Sucks realizing something after you dropped $190 bones.

You still have a great device that has lots of benefits other than temp control. Also, when you read edyle's take on it, which makes a lot of sense if it works that way, then it's perfect for you.

 

[stevegmu]

Cartos are conceptually one of the best applications for the technology.

Carto tanks? How so? I've never gotten a dry hit from a carto tank...

 

[tehdarkaura]

Exactly! Thanks. I mean I just think aside from knowing my Magma dripper is dry, I get no noticeable benefit from this temp control thing. I love to build and my Kayfun, Lemo and Erlkonigin are my home vapes but honestly, I think I might have thought more of this temp control thing than it is for my purposes. Sucks realizing something after you dropped $190 bones.

It doesn't take $190 to try temp control any more man...
less than $50 ? It does suck to buy something when it first comes out and pay that premium for it though...
$45.30 - HANA MODZ DNA 40 Clone 40W VW Box Mod APV w/ Temperature Control - Cigabuy

 

[tehdarkaura]

Carto tanks? How so? I've never gotten a dry hit from a carto tank...

I'm not sure where he is going with this either --= temp control doesn't work on kanthal -- how many pure nickle cartos are out there in the wild?

 

[BoomerFZ1]

1: I respect your opinion that temp control was designed for them crazy vapers who like to vape at 30+watts

But IMO you have it backwards.

2: For standard users in the 6-15w range (btw I've got 1 coil at 6 watts 32 gauge 3.5 ohm, and the other at 12 watts 30 gauge 2.6 ohms, both on regulated mods), temp control - if designed properly - will utilise the 30 watt capability of a regulated mod to adjust automatically to get up to temperature fast, and maintain that temperature ("maintain that temperature" means keep constant - not any higher, not any lower) while you hold down the button.

So should I set the TEMP I prefer to vape at and then just max out the watts? See...maybe I am thinkin' about this all wrong.

 

[BoomerFZ1]

It doesn't take $190 to try temp control any more man...
less than $50 ? It does suck to buy something when it first comes out and pay that premium for it though...
$45.30 - HANA MODZ DNA 40 Clone 40W VW Box Mod APV w/ Temperature Control - Cigabuy

Yeah this is like the horses and the barn door there tehdarkaura, but thanks for the gut punch . Actually...I had a bad experience with a Hana clone once and I can't imagine the first gen DNA 40 clones are fleshed out.

 

[SlickWilly]

What the Op is saying is under the type of vaping they prefer to start with, Temp control adds no noticeable Value.

Oh, and Cellucotton does not burn. It Melts.

Cellucotton, Rayon, is made from natural plant fibers such as bamboo or wood. It does not melt, it burns to a white ash just like cigarette paper. Try it for yourself.