As I've mentioned M, you, PDIB, Supe, Scuba, Vapdivrr all workin' hard towards a non-shorting stable performance coil were the prime influence to me that the corner could be turned if enough of us stepped in. It gave me the confidence not only to try and contribute but that I would survive the experience. Hat's off to you all.
Listen, I got my hands on very early versions of [correction: jig coilers] as they came out. Worked them as diligently as anything that any and all of you put out there. But no I had no input. They do not impart tension. As an investor I would have advised against it as a loss leader or discount item. Not something to get us to the unicorn vape. I think controlled production is for any wind that we try. A winner for every a** at the table, and there's a seat for every one. So I don't see this as a specific wind or form fixation at all but additional dimensions beyond temperature and power that are equally important to the result and our achieving a real control of outcome. Far more in significance and value than any one device we use. My goal has always been getting that developing vaper interested and confident enough to accomplish a proper repeatable electrical wind inside days so they can appreciate what the rest of us do.
As to your center-twist, an incredible accomplishment for a hand wind. I'm afraid my tired old hands can't do it. I've tried. I need tension to get to your symmetry, and turning them as opposed coils (top-turn exit at center) allows them to oxidize as if a single unit. That is, they tend to stabilize as a t.m.c. does with more uniform thermal distribution. The t.m.c. derivative is the most powerful wind I put on std. 3-post. The superbly even thermal output the center twist provides the insulated wind is jaw dropping (as per my pic above). Versions I've tested long term have been by far the best survivors and producers (both flavor and vapor) at every res tested. Recently I've been returning to tensioned versions of your over-under center twist for tests on the Kanger Subtank OCC. It's an amazing piece of work on that deck at 7/64" and 1/8" with 29 AWG performing more like a 26 gauge build at half actual resistance.
Yes the language is changing and I feel necessarily so as we need to consider that factors such as the insulation properties of wire are important to the vape. Wire is not just heat. Or that the internal pressures of a wind can be an advantage in the output over other winds and atomizer choices. In other situations maybe not. At least we have the discussion as the choices matter. But first there must be the choice.
Again, thanks to you and so many that preceded us. Really glad you've joined us. Not tryin' to make ya feel old M, I think I've got ya beat on that score.
Good luck!
Mac,
Ah IC. & thanks for lumping me in w/ some of the greats; tbh even now I just consider myself an overly opinionated d*ck most of the time
Can't help but get all gushy & nostalgic from time to time but I can respect that the new thread is probably the same thing, just to different people.Idk too much about t.m.c.'s.. Like seems there must be an advantage but I've just perused other areas. I'm guessing we are a lot a like in that we take satisfaction in shaking things up a bit. For me it's more about considering the total system or at least fragging down to: atty/mod/ or deeper posts/top cap/switch/etc, getting in there & noodle-ing on it. The best brain teasers are ones where everything is interconnected, like one big knotted ball. I'm a firm believer in easier is harder... as in the more elegant the more pains it took. Case in point I no longer build that build. Was more of a showy time to tinker type exercise. For a long time I was all about dual para, single wire. But, one can never be satisfied for too long, that's just boring
My current builds are pretty plain: 10 or 11 wrap duals w/ 26awg, lots of testing, but it's more about making superior wire connection in my case. Dayuummn tho, some of those twisted lead para's look prime for a std. tri-post.I'm perfectly wick right now w/o hot spots, even as hell; can't even push this thing past 4.4v @ 0.6ohms. After I tame this beast your gonna have to show me the t.m.c. way..
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