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[Mailablemage]

Yeah I can calculate, and use a calculator... my problem is in remembering formulas, such as Ohm's Law. Stuff like that doesn't stick. And yes, my grades in geometry reflect that inability -- A, C, F -- does no good to remember the theorems if you can't remember the corollaries! But I couldn't even recall the theorems.

I have a particular problem with Ohm's Law because the letter-variables used don't correspond to the ENGLISH words for those properties, so no mnemonics are possible. Maybe it'd be easier if I spoke French.

But thank god for Steam Engine. Without it, I might not still be using cigalikes, but it's a safe bet I'd never have bought a kayfun.

Andria

then learn it using different letters? use V, A, and R

 

[Mailablemage]

Never heard of these. Typo? (18350)

Otherwise, I like the idea of a screening test such as this.

I'm not sure if you really need to understand Ohm's Law and explain/write out the formula. As long as you can competently utilize an Ohm's Law Calculator that should suffice.

Explain It To the Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law Calculations

Ohm's Law For Dummies (Vapers)

My issue with this is, yeah you can use ohms law without knowing how it works. but thats the problem, its important to understand what is going on when using the equation.

EDIT it must have been a typo, I did write this at 3 am while drinking.

 

[Kprthevapr]

My issue with this is, yeah you can use ohms law without knowing how it works. but thats the problem, its important to understand what is going on when using the equation.

EDIT it must have been a typo, I did write this at 3 am while drinking.

Looks like common core math in Cali lol

 

[tj99959]

My issue with this is, yeah you can use ohms law without knowing how it works. but thats the problem, its important to understand what is going on when using the equation.

EDIT it must have been a typo, I did write this at 3 am while drinking.

My cousin (also from Medford) transposed letter in everything she ever wrote .......... must be something in the water

 

[Baditude]

My issue with this is, yeah you can use ohms law without knowing how it works. but thats the problem, its important to understand what is going on when using the equation.

I've never used the equation in my life. I hate math. My brain freezes up when attempting even the simplist equations. (I got a D- in high school Algebra.)

Most people on ECF would consider me a sort of safety expert concerning vaping. I know what batteries are safe for the resistance I build to. I know not to pull more amps than the battery has to offer safely. I know how to use the calculators. That's all you really need to know. KISS. (Keep It Simple Stupid)

I can't explain Ohm's Law, but I wrote the Ohm's Law for Dummies and Explain It To The Dumb Noob; Ohm's Law Calculations from doing some basic research so that simple vapers weren't intimidated by Ohm's Law. I have a fair idea of what is going on between battery and coil electrically speaking without really knowing the technicalities of Ohm's Law or electricity.

Learning to use the calculators properly is about the best you'll get from a lot of vapers.

 

[Mailablemage]

My cousin (also from Medford) transposed letter in everything she ever wrote .......... must be something in the water

if that is true then whatever is in the water must act fast, I haven't even been here a year!

 

[Mailablemage]

I've never used the equation in my life. I hate math. My brain freezes up when attempting even the simplist equations. (I got a D- in high school Algebra.)

I can't explain Ohm's Law, but I wrote the Ohm's Law for Dummies from doing some basic research. I have a fair idea of what is going on between battery and coil electrically speaking without really knowing the technicalities of Ohm's Law.

Learning to use the calculators properly is about the best you'll get from a lot of vapers.

I guess I do expect a bit too much from people. keep in mind it is part of my job to understand ohms and watts law, so my brain is a bit skewed.

 

[AndriaD]

I've never used the equation in my life. I hate math. My brain freezes up when attempting even the simplist equations. (I got a D- in high school Algebra.) And most people on ECF would consider me a sort of safety expert concerning vaping. I know what batteries are safe for the resistance I build to. I know not to pull more amps than the battery has to offer safely. I know how to use the calculators. That's all you really need to know. KISS. (Keep It Simple Stupid)

I can't explain Ohm's Law, but I wrote the Ohm's Law for Dummies from doing some basic research. I have a fair idea of what is going on between battery and coil electrically speaking without really knowing the technicalities of Ohm's Law.

Learning to use the calculators properly is about the best you'll get from a lot of vapers.

Well, thank god for this -- you are THE battery guru as far as I can tell, and if you say that having a good vaping calculator is sufficient, then I don't feel I'm doing anything "wrong". I can manage household budgeting and even *basic* algebra, but anything beyond... nope. Not ever gonna happen.

And BTW, sure is nice to see you around here again!

Now, all you math geeks... you're weird, accept it. Most of us don't think in formulas.

Andria

 

[DC2]

I guess I do expect a bit too much from people. keep in mind it is part of my job to understand ohms and watts law, so my brain is a bit skewed.

It's good that you realize this.
Many who post here don't seem to be able to.

Realizing that one's experiences are not representative of others is a skill.
A skill that seems very much lacking in the general population.

 

[Mailablemage]

Well, thank god for this -- you are THE battery guru as far as I can tell, and if you say that having a good vaping calculator is sufficient, then I don't feel I'm doing anything "wrong". I can manage household budgeting and even *basic* algebra, but anything beyond... nope. Not ever gonna happen.

And BTW, sure is nice to see you around here again!

Now, all you math geeks... you're weird, accept it. Most of us don't think in formulas.

Andria

its perfectly fine to use a calculator. just as long as you understand the output of said calculator.

 

[Kevin littell]

14: The lock ring on my mech is there too:

a: Lock the fire button open to render the switch open so I can put the mech in my pants pocket.
b: uses a different metal then the body for a cool look but is virtually useless.
c: a safety measure used to prevent the mod from unintentional firing...subject to failure and should not be relied upon.
d: lock ring, we don't need no stinking lock ring!

 

[DaveP]

Everyone should know how to work with ohms law and its permutations if they work with sub ohm coils. It's not a bad idea for anyone who vapes to understand the relationship between coil resistance and the voltage applied. If you have a mechanical mod, a mistake can create smoke and heat and possible serious burns or an explosion. If you vape an electronic mod, then you just get an error code if the current exceeds limits.

 

[Kevin littell]

15: Why is it not advisable to use harsh chemicals to clean switches and threads of a soft metal mech body?

 

[AndriaD]

its perfectly fine to use a calculator. just as long as you understand the output of said calculator.

Well, duh.

The above, showing my current coil at 1.5Ω, and with my Kick set at 9.5w, tells me I'm using 2.52 A -- and since I'm currently using one of those new 18 amp 18490 AWs, I think I'm pretty safe.

The main reason I bought those 18A batteries was a) they cost the same as the lower-amp batteries (at sweet-vapes), and b) I figured, the more amperage capacity the better. But since I never wrap coils lower than 1.3Ω (the lowest resistance any of my regulateds and Kicked mechs will fire), I doubt I'll ever even get near that output capacity.

See, I'm not a TOTAL idiot.

Andria

 

[Zealous]

its just an example of a battery, it goes back to when some people were stacking batteries in their mech mods, the point is to see if the vaper knows what happens to the batteries when they are stacked

No, I don't think an 18530 IS a battery....which is why people have have made comments. An 18350 is what you're thinking of.

 

[Mailablemage]

No, I don't think an 18530 IS a battery....which is why people have have made comments. An 18350 is what you're thinking of.

the correction has already been made. however, regardless of what battery is stacked, whether it be alkaline, SLAA, NICD, NIMH, or LITH-ION. The circuit type is still the same, and there is an answer to the question even if the battery type wasn't mentioned at all.

 

[Kevin littell]

16: Your out with the Posse hanging and blowing clouds.... You load up the topper, grab a lung full of air, press the fire button on the mech and try to draw in a full lung full of vapor but nothing happens. This happens too you twice in 10 minutes. Your next step is to:

a: try again....It's just an intermittent problem.
b: adjust the switch, visually inspect the batteries and topper for an obvious problem and try again.
c: switch to your backup rig until you can get home and find the root cause of the problem.

 

[Mailablemage]

Well, duh.

The above, showing my current coil at 1.5Ω, and with my Kick set at 9.5w, tells me I'm using 2.52 A -- and since I'm currently using one of those new 18 amp 18490 AWs, I think I'm pretty safe.

The main reason I bought those 18A batteries was a) they cost the same as the lower-amp batteries (at sweet-vapes), and b) I figured, the more amperage capacity the better. But since I never wrap coils lower than 1.3Ω (the lowest resistance any of my regulateds and Kicked mechs will fire), I doubt I'll ever even get near that output capacity.

See, I'm not a TOTAL idiot.

Andria

I never said you were an idiot. truth be told I am horrible at math too, however it is important at my job to understand these laws, so I learned them. I wont lie and say I don't have to use a calculator, although I have never understood using the plug in vape calculators, I find it easier to just use a regular calculator.

 

[crxess]

is the test that complicated? most of them seem pretty simple to me, I designed the test with the intent to encompass all aspects of mech mod use. however I will admit that number 13 is not really relevant anymore due to better 18650 batteries, its still a good idea to know the answer.

Essentially no, thus my comment on liking the intent. However, and this is just me personally, with today's equipment I no longer sit and look up wire resistance per inch and calculate all the variables needed to build a coil with a specific length of wire.
This is simply because the tools are now available to input minimal data and have this done on the fly in far less time with little chance for an error.
I then confirm my builds with accurate meters and always check/maintain my Mechanical mods in an effort to eliminate unexpected induced variables.

As stated Teaching/learning is important............ and there are levels of understanding as well as ability to apply.
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My considerations come from outside the Vaping arena. In the 35yrs. spent in DC electronics I endured many failed attempts to teach several workers how to wire a simple 5 pin relay for varying requirements.(multiple relays........forget it) Yet for some reason this knowledge was simple and clear to me.
I finally made a booklet of various pictured wiring requirements for use.

 

[DC2]

16: Your out with the Posse hanging and blowing clouds...

Have we actually reached the point where there are "posses" hanging out and "blowing clouds" now?
As long as none of them step on my lawn, I guess there won't be any problems.